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mineistaken 07-03-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.missyouth (Post 19700680)
It's crazy and violates every presidential right. Total shame.

Hey, Bolivians lied, it was only fuel recharge, Bolivians just thought it would be funny to wrongly accuse those countries of revoking flight clearance.

At least thats what dyna_mo is claiming :1orglaugh

crockett 07-03-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19700705)
Hey, Bolivians lied, it was only fuel recharge, Bolivians just thought it would be funny to wrongly accuse those countries of revoking flight clearance.

At least thats what dyna_mo is claiming :1orglaugh

Those guys are such funny guys...

dyna mo 07-03-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19700676)
You have made 10 posts per day on here for almost 5 years straight and you're calling other people retarded? Are you unable to leave your apartment or something?


well, you let us all know what the blunderballs approved amount of daily postings is and i will let you know if i can leave my pad or not. until then, why not take a deep breath and not concern yourself with what a gfy poster named dyna mo does with his time.

then go fuck yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19700705)
Hey, Bolivians lied, it was only fuel recharge, Bolivians just thought it would be funny to wrongly accuse those countries of revoking flight clearance.

At least thats what dyna_mo is claiming :1orglaugh

no.

i am claiming that is the latest news on a developing story, not sure why you can't grasp that.

candyflip 07-03-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700767)
i am claiming that is the latest news on a developing story, not sure why you can't grasp that.

The last thing I'm going to believe the "the news" :winkwink:

dyna mo 07-03-2013 08:03 AM

here's the latest, from 4 hours ago,

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Bolivian officials said that France, Portugal and Italy blocked the plane from flying over their territories based on unfounded rumors that Snowden was on board.

French government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said ??France ended up authorizing the flight over its airspace by Mr. Morales? plane.??

She said the plane ??was authorized to fly over French territory?? but wouldn?t explain whether there had been an initial refusal Tuesday night amid the rumors about Snowden?s presence on the plane.

The Portuguese Foreign Ministry said in a statement Wednesday that Portugal had granted permission for the plane to fly through its air space but declined Bolivia?s request for a refueling stop in Lisbon due to unspecified technical reasons.

Italian officials were not available to speak on the subject.

Meanwhile a separate saga played out with Spanish authorities.

Bolivia said Spain agreed to allow the plane to refuel in the Canary Islands ? but only if Bolivian authorities allowed it to be inspected. Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo denied Wednesday that his country demanded an inspection of the Bolivian plane.

Speaking in Berlin, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy said authorization was given for the plane to stop and refuel in Spain?s Canary Islands but that it was important Snowden was not aboard. He said the debate was ??a little artificial.??

dyna mo 07-03-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19700772)
The last thing I'm going to believe the "the news" :winkwink:

that's why it's important to read the latest from a variety of sources. unless you have a direct link to bolivia eh.

the news changes, i don't cling to any of it. i am simply trying to look at it dynamically.


not hard to grasp, but gfyers tend to not be able to get that.

_Richard_ 07-03-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19700457)
Last time I checked diplomats had immunity from search and seizure, which includes their presidential transportation.

All countries are equal in that...


When have you ever heard of a presidential aircraft being forced to land and then searched?

not anymore :winkwink:

for a country with presidents unable to travel due to war crime fears, this is a good move

dyna mo 07-03-2013 08:12 AM

this is what the bolivian president is calling a kidnapping of a head of state called in by the united states.

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While the Bolivian presidential plane sat in pre-dawn darkness on the tarmac in Vienna, a surreal scene played out when Spain?s ambassador to Austria visited the airport to meet with Morales, the Bolivian president told reporters Wednesday.

The ambassador, Alberto Carnero, asked Morales if they could board the Bolivian plane together. ??He asked me to go have a coffee inside the plane to see the plane,?? Morales said, adding that he believed the request was made so the plane could be inspected.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

drama queen.

brassmonkey 07-03-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19700437)
It's shit like this that proves Snowden is what he says he is and likely has more info.

Austria forced the Bolivian presidential plane to land in order for it to be searched. Pres Evo claims it was ordered by the US..

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...30703?irpc=932

Guess what? Snowden wasn't on the plane..

That's a pretty significant thing to do.. Could anyone imagine if say air force one was forced to land to be searched?

You just don't do shit like that..

that's what he gets for telling the truth :disgust who wants that??

DWB 07-03-2013 08:35 AM

If anyone is curious as to what happened, just go look at the fight path. They did a complete u-turn. 1) Pilots refuel before taking off and have an EXACT flight path. They were just coming from Russia so they had plenty of fuel. 2) You don't overshoot an airport and then decide to u-turn and go back to refuel unless you have a malfunction and had to dump fuel. 3) They circled Austria for THREE HOURS while waiting for permission to land. That alone tells you they had plenty of fuel. 4) Last I heard, they are still there.

http://www.flightradar24.com/2013-07-02/16:35/FAB1

dyna mo 07-03-2013 08:41 AM

the articles i've read simply describe it as a fuel "issue", not necc a refueling.

it's not unlike any developing story. more is revealed over time.

ThunderBalls 07-03-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700767)
well, you let us all know what the blunderballs approved amount of daily postings is and i will let you know if i can leave my pad or not. until then, why not take a deep breath and not concern yourself with what a gfy poster named dyna mo does with his time.

then go fuck yourself

Whoa, I was simply making an observation on people such as yourself who choose to make a career out of posting on here, no need to go berserk. Maybe you should point out to your caseworker to increase your dosage?

Just here to help. :thumbsup

TheSquealer 07-03-2013 08:46 AM

I'm confused. I thought that just the other day Obama was downplaying his significance, calling him a "hacker" and saying he wasn't going to scramble jets to intercept him. I guess once he was done with the back and forth with Russia and China, he feels a bit different. Now he's got Western Europe on the offensive to go after Snowden.

Black Jesus is confusing.

He reminds me a lot of White Jesus.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19700883)
I'm confused. I thought that just the other day Obama was downplaying his significance, calling him a "hacker" and saying he wasn't going to scramble jets to intercept him. I guess once he was done with the back and forth with Russia and China, he feels a bit different. Now he's got Western Europe on the offensive to go after Snowden.

Black Jesus is confusing.

He reminds me a lot of White Jesus.

that's why he's getting grayer hair on a daily basis.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19700873)
Whoa, I was simply making an observation on people such as yourself who choose to make a career out of posting on here, no need to go berserk. Maybe you should point out to your caseworker to increase your dosage?

Just here to help. :thumbsup

i'm not going berserk in the slightest. you came out of the blue in a thread about snowden to make some bullshit remarks about how many times i post in a day, after having to do the math on my posting frequency, and my ability to leave my "apartment".

i simply set you straight re: your inquiry.

Captain Kawaii 07-03-2013 09:10 AM

Question to "some posters" - Does JIDF pay you per post or are you on salary?

Phoenix 07-03-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700866)
the articles i've read simply describe it as a fuel "issue", not necc a refueling.

it's not unlike any developing story. more is revealed over time.

please do not drink this flavour of koolaid

does this guy look like he had a fuel issue with his plane and that is why he is standing there?
http://rt.com/news/bolivian-presiden...e-snowden-577/
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/a2/90/00/mm-1.jpg

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19700962)
please do not drink this flavour of koolaid

does this guy look like he had a fuel issue with his plane and that is why he is standing there?
http://rt.com/news/bolivian-presiden...e-snowden-577/
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/a2/90/00/mm-1.jpg

what are you talking about? you know better? did you read the actual quote i posted above?

again, i am simply looking at the story as it unfolds, why do some of you insist on making that about me drinking koolaid, being bipolar, drugs, post count, or wtfever?

it's ridiculous. i mean really.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:25 AM

do you evenknow what a fuel issue is? because i don't. how is someone with an unknown fuel issue supposed to look? does this guy look like he is kidnapped to you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19700962)
please do not drink this flavour of koolaid

does this guy look like he had a fuel issue with his plane and that is why he is standing there?
http://rt.com/news/bolivian-presiden...e-snowden-577/
http://rt.com/files/news/1f/a2/90/00/mm-1.jpg


crockett 07-03-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700866)
the articles i've read simply describe it as a fuel "issue", not necc a refueling.

it's not unlike any developing story. more is revealed over time.

A developing story yet you have already come to the conclusion that the Bolivian president is just making it all up....

_Richard_ 07-03-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19700977)
A developing story yet you have already come to the conclusion that the Bolivian president is just making it all up....

http://replygif.net/i/1191.gif

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19700977)
A developing story yet you have already come to the conclusion that the Bolivian president is just making it all up....

nope, i am saying it appears that way at this point in time. i said that once, i've mentioned several times i am paying attention dynamically to a story that is unfolding in real time.

certainly i am not the only one here who is aware that the story changes as details emerge.

it's funny though, you are the one who refuses to see that the story has changed.

i've posted updated info you wax right over. either way, i try to have dialogue around topics such as these, for instance i can converse well with dwb on these topics although he and i are very much different in our views of them, but either my view or ability to communicate the view, is not understood by people like you and others. no biggie, but that's what going on. fyi.

Phoenix 07-03-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700993)
nope, i am saying it appears that way at this point in time. i said that once, i've mentioned several times i am paying attention dynamically to a story that is unfolding in real time.

certainly i am not the only one here who is aware that the story changes as details emerge.

it's funny though, you are the one who refuses to see that the story has changed.

i've posted updated info you wax right over. either way, i try to have dialogue around topics such as these, for instance i can converse well with dwb on these topics although he and i are very much different in our views of them, but either my view or ability to communicate the view, is not understood by people like you and others. no biggie, but that's what going on. fyi.

your developing story source i would like to see please.

Phoenix 07-03-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700968)
what are you talking about? you know better? did you read the actual quote i posted above?

again, i am simply looking at the story as it unfolds, why do some of you insist on making that about me drinking koolaid, being bipolar, drugs, post count, or wtfever?

it's ridiculous. i mean really.

settle down dyna mo.

i mean the figurative koolaid fed to you by the media when a story is obvious bullshit

i wasn't even aware you had issues

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701010)
settle down dyna mo.

i mean the figurative koolaid fed to you by the media when a story is obvious bullshit

i wasn't even aware you had issues

i'm perfectly relaxed. i won't explain my postings again, i've done that 2-4x in this thread already. if you want to make underhanded comments about not being aware i have issues, skipping over the fact those were uncalled for jabs in this thread, have it, enjoy yourself, maybe you will feel better about yourself after doing so. hope so.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701005)
your developing story source i would like to see please.

it's called google, now show your source showing you know my source is bullshit.

_Richard_ 07-03-2013 09:57 AM

http://replygif.net/i/1175.gif

Phoenix 07-03-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19701030)
it's called google, now show your source showing you know my source is bullshit.

http://rt.com/news/bolivian-presiden...e-snowden-577/


i dont give a shit if someone else makes fun of you.

you have never once tried to help me here.

i remain civil...bullies picking on you? tough luck

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701041)
http://rt.com/news/bolivian-presiden...e-snowden-577/


i dont give a shit if someone else makes fun of you.

you have never once tried to help me here.

i remain civil...bullies picking on you? tough luck

when did i ever ask you to give a shit? who the fuck are you? i wouldn't know you if i was fucking your sister, nor would i want to.

and that goes double for *helping* you.

i can deal with bullies just fine, read the fucking thread.

SuckOnThis 07-03-2013 10:10 AM

http://www.addletters.com/pictures/n...ooting+Rampage

Phoenix 07-03-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19701045)
when did i ever ask you to give a shit? who the fuck are you? i wouldn't know you if i was fucking your sister, nor would i want to.

and that goes double for *helping* you.

i can deal with bullies just fine, read the fucking thread.

hey Dyna mo.
if you want to be treated with respect try giving some.
you come on too strong since you mention my sister and fucking her.
i think you crossed the line. i can see now you are just some useless punk
trust me when i say you are not the gangster you think you are.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:12 AM

it's the simpletons that take issue with my posts. they can't comprehend the middle ground on complex issues. they can only see things in black & white so when i post my view which attempts to find that middle ground, all the simpletons go running to protect their black or white position.

happens every time. it's uncanny. then come in the trolls out of the blue too that couldn't care less about the topic, just see safety in numbers so they drive-by and hurl an attempted insult, like going out of their way to make a jpg, etc.

it's all too funny, classic gfy.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701071)
hey Dyna mo.
if you want to be treated with respect try giving some.
you come on too strong since you mention my sister and fucking her.
i think you crossed the line. i can see now you are just some useless punk
trust me when i say you are not the gangster you think you are.

um, you are the one who quoted my post and said something about drinking koolaid. so your mutual respect spiel is real neat and all, i bet you practiced it a couple times to get it right, but it's bullshit.

typical.

Phoenix 07-03-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19701077)
um, you are the one who quoted my post and said something about drinking koolaid. so your mutual respect spiel is real neat and all, i bet you practiced it a couple times to get it right, but it's bullshit.

typical.

you have never heard the term drinking the koolaid?

really?
stop being so paranoid...i don't participate in group hate

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701087)
you have never heard the term drinking the koolaid?

really?
stop being so paranoid...i don't participate in group hate

it's a disrespectful way to characterize someone's view. you're the one that brought up respect not me. i didn't bring jack shit up in fact, you brought it all up. i didn't say anything about you being a group hater, never even heard of that term, you brought up respect, i let you know if you want respect, then don't couch people's views in terms of them drinking koolaid, that's not respectful at all.

Phoenix 07-03-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19701092)
it's a disrespectful way to characterize someone's view. you're the one that brought up respect not me. i didn't bring jack shit up in fact, you brought it all up. i didn't say anything about you being a group hater, never even heard of that term, you brought up respect, i let you know if you want respect, then don't couch people's views in terms of them drinking koolaid, that's not respectful at all.

my statement was
please do not drink this flavour of koolaid


sorry it took you for such a turn

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19701096)
my statement was
please do not drink this flavour of koolaid


sorry it took you for such a turn

this was my reply, i don't think it was such a turn, only when you continued to add to it, did it take such a turn. especially after waxing over my stating i am staying tuned into the story and am updating.

either way, you act like i'm butthurt. you should go check out my acoustic covers thread, we're having good times in there atm.

my reply was
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19700968)
what are you talking about? you know better? did you read the actual quote i posted above?

again, i am simply looking at the story as it unfolds, why do some of you insist on making that about me drinking koolaid, being bipolar, drugs, post count, or wtfever?

it's ridiculous. i mean really.


_Richard_ 07-03-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19701107)
this was my reply, i don't think it was such a turn, only when you continued to add to it, did it take such a turn. especially after waxing over my stating i am staying tuned into the story and am updating.

either way, you act like i'm butthurt. you should go check out my acoustic covers thread, we're having good times in there atm.

my reply was

please stop.

Rochard 07-03-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19700883)
I'm confused. I thought that just the other day Obama was downplaying his significance, calling him a "hacker" and saying he wasn't going to scramble jets to intercept him. I guess once he was done with the back and forth with Russia and China, he feels a bit different. Now he's got Western Europe on the offensive to go after Snowden.

Black Jesus is confusing.

He reminds me a lot of White Jesus.

That might be the case, but you are assuming the Obama or even the US was involved.

I find it hard to believe that the CIA / NSA / Whomever thought that Snowden was on the plane, ran it all the way up the chain in a matter of a few hours to the President, and then back down the chain all the way to the French government to deny them landing rights?

I think France and other countries just said "fuck this, we don't want to get involved" and denied permission. The last thing any country wants is a situation like they have in London where Julian there is stuck in an embassy.

dyna mo 07-03-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19701112)
please stop.

again richard???


you know what's too bad? obviously, we all are interested in this topic. it's just too bad we can't figure out a way to relate our views and have some dialogue about it. instead we take a topic we all like and try to separate each other on it. i know more than you, my view is right, you are wrong.

but when it gets personal i accept the invite and make it personal too. i've offered a truce about that with richard, he didn't even want to risk trying. ok. i'll do the same here with crocket and phoenix. we can all try a little harder to be respectful in these threads on topics which we all have to admit are interested in or we can get sidetracked into even being more retarded.

i'm open.


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