you sir are an idiot?

bottom line he threw the fight... period.... and yes turd... I have plenty to back up the investigation you obviously have your head so far up your ass it does not matter what I show you anyways....

for sure when it comes to UFC and it's inner workings I would say on this board I am an expert....

ive cornered UFC fighters many times.. I KO Dana White's cousin in a fight first round. ive managed UFC fighters... and I have saturday starbucks with NSAC guys.... not to mention I just left a manager posotion UFC Gym...

and those who know me know I HATE anderson... I called Chris beating him months ago... Chris is the new champ.. and will have a hard time anyone beating him....

But.... anderson threw the fight.... bottom line....

there are tell signs he threw the fight vs being cocky and showboating....

this was a throw ... not a fix... a fix both fighters know whats going to happen... this one ... only anderson knew....

oh not to mention the 2 million dollar cash bet that went for wideman.....

UFC contracts are based on wins.... especially his.... im sure he has a clause in his contract that if he loses he can leave.. or pick his fights... when your the champ.. you HAVE to fight to defend your belt....

Anderson wants boxing and I don't blame him... Anderson is no where near pro boxer level at all... I know amateur kids 12 years old that would tear anderson up in a boxing only match... but the bottom line is... the lowest man on the totem pole for a boxing PPV event will make 3x the amount of a main event UFC fighter..... for instance

chris wideman made 48k last night... he's been off a year waiting for the fight.... sponsors prolly pay him 3-4k per month after all is said and done... id say 1500-2000 of that sponsor money go's to his team each month maybe more.... so in reality chris wideman prolly made 70k over the last year... thats about to change now he's the champ....


wideman is legit ... great fighter... but he did not hit anderson hard... my 8 year old could have taken that punch... wideman was tired.. and fading out....

is this the dude that did those round house kicks no one liked?

Why are you so angry? And who gives a shit about how important you think you are, or who you claim to go to starbucks with? If there were an investigation underway, it's be in the media in some fashion or another.

And I still disagree with you that he threw the fight... this also coming from someone who cannot stand Silva -- I hate him specifically for those silly antics, Rashad Evans' clown ass too -- because he tried to take Weidmans head off several times; and if he really wanted to throw the fight then he wouldn't have fought so hard to get off the ground in round 1, and then try so hard (successfully) to keep the fight standing where he (thought) he had the advantage.

Silva tried to get in Weidmans head with those stupid antics, like he has done many times in the past, and instead Weidman got into Silva's head with a fist and knocked him the fuck out.

Thanks for playing though...

I don't think he threw it but it is clear he was not crazy about fightitng any more. Read what he says about the ten fight deal. He clearly wants out of the UFC/MMA.

You claim to be such an expert on the UFC and yet you post this utter nonsense? Weidman was tired and fading out after less than 1.5 rounds? Especially when Silva spent the last 2 minutes or so of the first round, and the start of the second round until he got put to sleep, clowning around and taunting him? Please.

And then claiming your 8 year old could have taken that punch... get the fuck out of here.

Dirtydanza - interesting you say that, what are the tells you see or saw?

No one knew who Chris Wideman was. He will make a lot more. You also know the salaries that are given to the press do not include the bonus that is usually double or higher? I have some experience on the agency side (very litte) but I did see some deals as anyone who was or is near to being champion does ok on a yearly basis. A million a year with a guy like Anderson doing way better then that. No way he threw it for 2 million. He makes that with Nike each year alone.

DirtyDanza,

It's an interesting theory that Silva wants to be a boxer but there's a couple things which don't seem to connect with that.

1. He just signed a 10 fight UFC contract.
2. He's 38 so he is hardly in his prime to become a boxer.
3. You say he isn't at pro level for boxing so how could he want to do that?

If he threw the fight (and that's a really big if) I could see him throwing it as a way to tell the UFC to fuck off but then again there are lots of other ways to do that and he certainly wouldn't starve if he did. I could totally see him being pissed over money or the way the UFC does things though.

Considering that the PPV numbers alone probably did over $40 million I could see why he might think the million or so he now gets a fight isn't fair.

But man, even with that shocking video it seems tough to believe he threw the fight.

You actually participated in pro MMA fights, correct? How could you think that Anderson Silva threw the fight purposefully? Isn't it much more logical to believe that he just got caught being arrogant and clowning around? And to say that Weidman was gassing out that early in the fight? Ridiculous! You just downgraded yourself from someone who might have been believed to be somewhat knowledgeable about MMA to the wackiest of pseudo-fans.

ITT: Anybody that really cares

You know the more I look at it the more it seems That Anderson got out classed and that he was using the taunting in desperation more so than usual. These gifs are from some other MMA forums and where people have pointed out most of this before.

http://www.mma-core.com/gifs/1000259...va_UFC_162.gif

Weidman takes him down 30 seconds into the round. Silva getting taken down is a fairly rare thing. Especially right away.

http://www.mma-core.com/gifs/1000259...an_UFC_162.gif

Silva does some taunting here but it looks as if he was really trying to KO him. Those shots were fast and hard. If Weidman weren't ready for them, he could have been rocked.

http://www.mma-core.com/gifs/1000259...rt_UFC_162.gif

Weidman seems to have Silva's number. He seems ready for the clowning. He leads with a weak punch and then follows up with a real one. Did it connect and do some damage? They say in boxing if a man smiles after a punch it means he was really hurt. No matter. The next time Silva does this Weidman follows it with a left hook instead which drops him.


https://imageshack.us/a/img580/6175/8rr.gif

Look at Weidman dodge Silva's attacks. He was basically making a fool of Silva but without the purposeful clowning. Those strikes from Silva weren't sparring strikes either. They were meant to maim and they were fast.

In between rounds Silva was extremely fired up. I've never seen him do that in between rounds before. It could be that he thought Weidman was making a fool of him (and clearly that later happened).

Another one not shown above was that crescent/front kick Silva tried to hit him with... that fucker had enough force behind it to put Weidman on his ass if it landed.

The shots he was throwing weren't pussy shots by any means, and certainly not shots from someone trying to throw a fight... The reality is, it was nothing more than Silva getting beat at his own game. He took a risk taunting and goofing around, and paid the price for it.

Anderson seems to care less about his loss than you do :thumbsup

Let the conversation flow bloke, no need to get so agro if people have an opposing opinion :winkwink:

yes it is..

This is a parking page.
Do you try to sell this domain at a better price ?

Huh? I'm just flowing with the conversation. I don't particularly care, considering I can't stand the guy and was glad to see him get knocked out heh...

ill adress the kick anderson threw .. easy... anyone who fights here.. davexxx , anthony .. anyone one of these guys can take my fucking head of they are much bigger than me and know what they are doing... very easy for a pro.. of anderson's caliber to throw intense kicks and be sure to not hit the target....

it's called control... and anderson has it.. look I hate the guy but he is talented.. he was the champ for a reason...

I understand why he does what he does in the ring...

Look if I hold the belt.. and you want it... come get it motherfucker.. im going to do just enough to defend it.. it's up to you to put on the show not me... I already got the belt.. I just have to defend it....

anderson was amazing at defending his belt... wideman is a great fighter.. he was fading because he blew his wad in the ring first round with anderson silva.. any of us would.. well.. 99.9999999% of you would not even get within 10ft of the ring but the remainder of us would all be scared shitless to stand in there cause you have watched tape after tape after tape.. you know his holes.. you know his strengths... and you know he's got KO power for everywhere.... look what he did to forrest on the backup at 205... and forrest can take a punch .... he hit vitor with a half ass front kick that put vitor in heaven cause now he's all religious....

anderson can fight.. anderson would not get clipped with a baby left hook that would take him out.... anderson took a dive plain and simple... champions don't fall like that..... he wants to box.. make money.. why not

That's true but he's 38 too. Look at what happened to Fedor. Arguably he's been fading a bit in the last couple years. His style is dependent on being faster than his opponents. He had some trouble against Chael too, especially in the first fight.

Arguably he was scared of the takedowns. On other forums people have been pointing this out. He started off with a traditional stance with his hands up but once Weidman got the takedown he started dropping his hands. The theory was that it helped him defend (stuff) against the takedown and that it encouraged Weidman to stand and trade on his feet instead of trying to take him down. Before he got knocked out Joe Rogan was going on and on about this that by playing into it Weidman was making a mistake. It makes some sense to me anyway.

You make it sound like Silva is invincible and could only ever lose if he did so on purpose... which tells me you actually know fuck all about MMA, or fighting period.

Two paragraphs of how a fighter who knows how to punch can do exactly that and one paragraph saying it was fake, Anderson was backing up for two swings and just ran out of room on the third. Dumb as hell but he did it.

He's a fighter though. I saw a couple of his fights. So that is going too far to say he knows nothing about MMA! I think people just have different opinions and see different things. You have to respect that.

I know I was saying it before the fight that Silva was due to lose. Mainly because of Father Time. But others thought no way.

Well, I've never heard of him so all I have to go by is what he says... and the nonsense he's spewing tells me he isn't a very good fighter and knows nothing about MMA or fighting... Probably why I've never heard of him.

Alright he fucking lost ! - Big shit !
How many of you cheep bastards actually purchased the PPV - A small percentage -
Most of you Jew fucks watched the fight trailers then came here to play professional arm-chair MMA fight analysts.

Sit your broke asses the fuck down !

It would seem that someone forgot to take their meds today...

Ive prolly forgot more about MMA than you will ever know...

I said wideman would beat silva long ago.. silva is far from invincible... and shit happens... anyone can knock anyone out.... everybody has a button I don't care who they are.. ive been knocked out and ive knocked many out.....

but watch the fight...
again I forgot more about MMA last week than you will ever know... I cornered 3 guys friday and 1 guy on the undercard for saturday... thats just this week....

when you have pro's saying he threw the fight.. managers... go troll "the underground" and see what they are saying

Why are you trying so hard to prove something to someone that you never once met?

I personally don't care how much you know, don't know, claim to know or think you know about MMA. I watched the fight, several times, and it reminded me a lot of his fight with Maia... But I guess he threw that fight too huh? ;)

But hey, at least you got the trash talking part down... now all you gotta do is learn how to beat those better than you and one day you might become champ yourself (lol)

Then as a fighter you know what you are talking about. He didn't do it for cash so why would he throw the fight? He is a hero in Brazil. He is an ass in the ring but otherwise he is not a bad guy except being odd. Unless you mean he threw it away through carelessness but no way did he intend to lose. That makes zero sense for a guy in his spot. ZERO sense.

Anderson silva vs. Chris wideman on Super Bowl weekend....

and this wasn't a fix ?

Danza is accusing the greatest MMA fighter in history of purposefully throwing a fight without a shred of evidence. You don't have to respect that. As a matter of fact it makes him lose all the credibility he had as a guy who fought and is involved in professional MMA.

The 38 part is a huge factor. Plus, we don't know what happened in camp. He could have been knocked out, or hit pretty damn hard sparring & his on/off switch was still a bit temperamental. The bottom line is this: when Tyson lost to buster, I remember where I was like 911. I remember being in disbelief. Then, they started saying Tyson took a dive. Then the count was long for Douglas etc. The bottom line is no one could believe Tyson lost to a fighter like Douglas, a journeyman. During the fight I thought Tyson was ahead & would "get that one shot in" but watching it now he plain & simple straight up got beat & ktfo. People thought he was unbeatable. People thought silva was unbeatable. Seeing is believing. He lost.
Duke

Gotta lose sometime

Oh, so now it was a fix? Earlier you said it wasn't fixed, but that Silva threw the fight; which isn't the same thing (your own words). So which is it oh great and wise MMA expert?

Time to lay off the steroids methinks...