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The law isn't approved until it's approved. The major ISPs don't want to do it. Google doesn't want to do it. There will be cries of censorship. From my understanding this is simply a suggestion at this point, the beginning of what could potentially be a new policy.
When it comes around, we'll actually see what happens. I'm told they wanted something similarly done in AU a few years ago and it got killed. After debating it, people realized it was a waste of time and $$. That component was part of a bigger component dealing with child abuse as well. We'll see if the legal porn component of "default-on" actually survives. Here's an article that hates on porn, saying this is all smoke & mirrors: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-internet-porn |
It occurred to me that the unintended consequence of such a move might be to popularize and desensitize people to porn. In other words, if everyone has to go on record saying "i want porn", rather than it being a private, personal choice that people don't talk about.. then its going to be a topic of discussion, its going to be a lot of people openly joking about it and discussing it and discussing likes/dislikes and so on. Most likely, it would ultimately become less stigmatized.
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Used to be if you wanted porn online you had to actually pay for it... now anyone of any age can watch millions of videos for free instantly on the fucking tube sites... which is why we have problems with young people getting hooked on this shit and fucking up the way they view women and sex and literally screwing up the chemical dopamine reactions in their brains, there are lots of new studies coming out about the negative effects of chronic porn use on the brain... no one should be surprised that laws like this are going to start being introduced by all these fucking orwellian governments who want to control every aspect of our lives... get used to it because you know you ain't gonna do shit about it...
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Look at the comments on the major news portals, especially the daily mail who claim to have started it all, it's hugely unpopular, the against comments far out weigh the for comments. It may not be a done deal just yet, it's clear most people don't want it and it's just a political smokescreen in most opinions.
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It's kind of funny, but not haha funny, that they would do this with any sort of site because the fundamental way that the internet as we know it works is by request and service. Every one of us did, as a matter of fact, REQUEST that the page at gofuckyourself.com be served to us. Then, and ONLY then, were we permitted to view the page, provided we were an acceptable client. In other words, in every real sense the entire internet is already blocked for everyone UNTIL a client requests something.
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Even if you come to understand that it can be damaging and addicting won't change anything anyways... do you think the guy at the corner liquor store gives a shit that he's literally selling liquid poison to addicts and ruining lives? Doubt it, as long as there is demand for it and he can make money from it he's going to keep on selling it... |
Censor ship in this manner is nannying, but I guess the UK public is use to that by now.
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If all damaging things were banned we'd start with religion and would all worship the all-powerful Atheismo.. until it were banned.
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The UK government priority list is laughable...
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anyone using the internet for regular purposes would need to opt-out of the filter. |
i posted this 1-2 months ago and except few, none of you motherfuckers gave damn shit about it, this is our job, our business and we should do something to protect not only our self interests but also the liberties itself.
a troll at the first page talks about damaging affects of porn, how easy we people are seriously to be fooled by nonsense studies and bs? we all know that yet 20-30 years ago these doctors with tv shows smoking cigarettes appeared on tv within telling to public how smoking is healthy etc, but today they talk shit about cigarettes to sell those "end smoking addiction crap) and who knows what else they aimed. don't buy every fucking so called study, most of the time what ever you see on media is plain bullshit. again i say let's do something, we are community and we can do lots of things if we want. |
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Who will decide which sites are ok and which are not? Any site that has user created content had, have or will have explicit adult content, that's how the web function. I already posted this in the other thread: Quote:
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Good - bring this to the USA immediately!
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What is the definition of "porn" ?
Is my boobs-only site considered "porn" for example? http://www.BoobieMovies.com/Big-Boun.../windex01.html |
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And just because I understand that internet porn when abused can be mentally damaging and addictive does not mean that I condone government censorship. |
I wonder who will take the responsibility for costs and loses caused by this. Probably no one.
For example people who needed to access certain websites but could not because they could not opt out the filter due to busy ISP support what happens quite often or who did not know what was the problem with unaccessible site at all. Example: A guy needs to renew his domain today worth $10.000 and he cannot access registrar site due to the filter neither contact busy ISP. Example2: A guy needs to cancel his membership today that prolongs annually (cost $200). He just got to know by an email about his membership, but wtf he cannot access a site. ISP on phone is busy, he sent an email which will be answered a few days later. etc. etc. I wonder also if there will be any massage or something indicating why people cannot access a certain website. It should be. Some people don't read the news and they may not know what the fuck and why they cannot access certain websites. On a side note most of you will take thing more serious when you will see the decrease in traffic and sales. The UK is a serious adult market and I'm sure the decrease of traffic will be significant. |
I don't pretend to understand how this will work, so this may not make any sense, but...
...if I were to get internet access from (fill in the blank) service provider, and by default the provider filtered out access to "adult sites" (however that determination is made), but then I could simply "opt-in" as a customer that does NOT want this content filtered out, then I would just simply "opt-in" and that would be that, no? Again, I don't pretend to know any of the specific details, but if what I wrote above is close to how it would work, then why would you lose traffic or sales? |
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Other measures announced by the prime minister included: New laws so videos streamed online in the UK will be subject to the same restrictions as those sold in shops Search engines having until October to introduce further measures to block illegal content Experts from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre being given more powers to examine secretive file-sharing networks A secure database of banned child pornography images gathered by police across the country will be used to trace illegal content and the paedophiles viewing it Mr Cameron also called for warning pages to pop up with helpline numbers when people try to search for illegal content. |
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yea yea, we were discussing about that so called porn addiction in case. |
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No? Can't imagine why? Do you watch Fox News frequently? Thought so. |
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I agree if mobile access is restricted so should landline providers restrict their services in the same way by default. |
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Sure I could dig up some links for you if I felt like it, but why should I help you out with anything? You're a piece of shit apparently. lol And no I don't watch fucking Fox News you assumption making idiot... I don't watch any TV news at all... |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interne...United_Kingdom
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...web-users.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...line-porn.html It seems also like they want to ban extreme porn Quote:
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Let's be straight with this, this is censorship and the rape of freedom of speech probably to mask unconvinced political shit. :2 cents: |
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No need to let logic get in the way when you have made up statistics to quote. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interne..._on_mobiles.22 I can only assume that ISPs blocked mobile accesses to it on because of "inappropriate" content. Probably because of definitions of "inappropriate" words or something. I never really used mobile web, now it got me curious what I can access and what not on my phone. |
porn should definately be controlled, the mother fucking tube sites and even youtube have made a bloody mess. There are no warning pages, nothing nada. All the hardcore shit right in front of you. That includes children as well. Excess of everything is bad.
Internet needs policing |
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Don't fall for the 'Save The Children' excuse, they use the same to go to war and kills thousands of children, this is a pretext to create a mechanism for Internet censorship; porn is just the thin end of the wedge. :2 cents:
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you basically can't use it unless you opt out of it. it's not a porn filter its designed to remove everything you don't wish a 8 should see, including violence, bad language etc. people who can enjoy the internet with such limitations would not be your typical customer. |
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There are well defined rules for brick and mortar shop to display and sell such stuff. Internet became a fucking jungle. Paysites are finished anyways, now it is tubes's turn to face the carnage |
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How odd... |
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Guys, i suggest we launch a campaign against this bs, so what we need is gather contacts of all major newspapers, tvs, political parties, isps and the companies who work mostly on internet and the NGOs that fights for civil liberties.
Help gathering this info and let's start out a campaign before it's too late. |
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Cameron is already starting the u-turn on this one.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8726991.html |
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