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MaDalton 08-23-2013 05:48 PM

not having to identify yourself with an ID to vote sounds crazy to me

TheSquealer 08-23-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19771326)
not having to identify yourself with an ID to vote sounds crazy to me

Well... according to Democrats, expecting Blacks and Latinos to have a valid government issued ID is racist. Expecting them to get a 100% free, voter registration card is racist. Expecting a black person or Latino to verify they are an eligible voter is racist. Expecting a Black or Latino that wants to vote to actually be eligible to vote is racist.

This issue is humorous to me because of its absurdity and the absurdity of the argument against. Basically all we hear is, "well, they aren't very likely to get ID's so this is discriminatory and racist"

kane 08-23-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19771333)
Well... according to Democrats, expecting Blacks and Latinos to have a valid government issued ID is racist. Expecting them to get a 100% free, voter registration card is racist. Expecting a black person or Latino to verify they are an eligible voter is racist. Expecting a Black or Latino that wants to vote to actually be eligible to vote is racist.

This issue is humorous to me because of its absurdity and the absurdity of the argument against. Basically all we hear is, "well, they aren't very likely to get ID's so this is discriminatory and racist"

I see it from both sides.

I understand the argument that for most people getting an ID is easy and if it is going to be free there is no financial issues involved so there is no legitimate reason not to have one. so it makes perfect sense to have people get them. It really isn't much of a burden.

On the other side of the coin, there are people saying that there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud so we are fixing a problem that doesn't exist. when you look at the broader spectrum of many of these bills they reduce the ways and times to register and/or vote. In the end they look like they are trying to pass laws that can help them suppress some of the vote.

If you are republicans you don't want these people voting because it is bad for you so in many cases they are now starting to pass laws to try to curb some of these voters. As I said, it isn't just voter ID, never mind that. There are reductions in voting days, redistricting and other things in play as well. The fewer people that turn up at the polls the better it is for the republicans.

If you are a democrat you want as many people as possible to vote so you fight these laws anyway you can. More people to the polls is good for you.

In the end it is all politics. I don't think they are passing these laws because they are genuinely worried about widespread voter fraud. They are doing it because they want to weed out likely democrats and they are selling it as common sense protection.

bronco67 08-23-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19771364)
I see it from both sides.

I understand the argument that for most people getting an ID is easy and if it is going to be free there is no financial issues involved so there is no legitimate reason not to have one. so it makes perfect sense to have people get them. It really isn't much of a burden.

On the other side of the coin, there are people saying that there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud so we are fixing a problem that doesn't exist. when you look at the broader spectrum of many of these bills they reduce the ways and times to register and/or vote. In the end they look like they are trying to pass laws that can help them suppress some of the vote.

If you are republicans you don't want these people voting because it is bad for you so in many cases they are now starting to pass laws to try to curb some of these voters. As I said, it isn't just voter ID, never mind that. There are reductions in voting days, redistricting and other things in play as well. The fewer people that turn up at the polls the better it is for the republicans.

If you are a democrat you want as many people as possible to vote so you fight these laws anyway you can. More people to the polls is good for you.

In the end it is all politics. I don't think they are passing these laws because they are genuinely worried about widespread voter fraud. They are doing it because they want to weed out likely democrats and they are selling it as common sense protection.

Not only what you just said, but Art Pope, the man responsible for most of the money that won the Republicans control of North Carolina is running Republican think tanks which are training other districts to do the same shit as the successful Winston Salem model.

They're in total control there, and they think no one is watching.

2MuchMark 08-23-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19769669)
I don't remember everything about acorn, but that they lost in court and went bankrupt over the fraud.


Joshua G 08-23-2013 10:07 PM

forget needing just an ID to vote. people should be required to take an IQ test to vote. elections have been reduced to pandering to a mob of retards. the result is a class of politician whose best skill is bullshitting instead of legislating.

:2 cents:

baddog 08-23-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19770547)
I don't understand how you could have been allowed to vote without proper Id before.
For the Canadians here, We have to have id. In fact I'm pretty sure you are legally bound to carry proper id at all times once you are an adult.

shhh, this is GFY

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19771326)
not having to identify yourself with an ID to vote sounds crazy to me

They ran out of issues?

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19771503)
forget needing just an ID to vote. people should be required to take an IQ test to vote. elections have been reduced to pandering to a mob of retards. the result is a class of politician whose best skill is bullshitting instead of legislating.

:2 cents:

I apologize, but I do not recall if I ever agreed with you before; amen.

Joshua G 08-23-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19771507)
I apologize, but I do not recall if I ever agreed with you before; amen.

if you were able to convey ideas beyond 1 sentence insults i might care.

:)


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