And?

Russia had 14k KIA in ten years; We've been there longer and we've had 3k KIA.

Because you have done nothing other than bombing and protecting your own bases. Do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan? Ah, Einstein?

BTW, Mujaheddins were supplied by the States with Stingers which were used to take down Russian aircrafts and helicopters. Now try to imagine the US loses if Taliban was supplied with say... 9K38 Iglas?

Odd, because I could have sworn the Taliban were removed from the government. President Hamid Karzai is running the country. The Taliban has been reduced from a functioning government to a terrorist force who stages bombings.

Keep in mind also that with Afghanistan and Pakistan, some areas of their country have never been controlled by the government... There is just no government forces, offices, or support for entire regions of these countries - and no law either.

I am guessing this is exactly what the Russians did too.

The problem is large amounts of Afghanistan aren't ruled by anyone - there is no government, no infrastructure, and no law. It doesn't really matter who is in power in the capital, because their power has never extended into the outer regions. Even when the Taliban was in power, they still didn't control the entire country - in fact, there was multiple armies facing the Taliban when they were in power.

I do not know. Oddly enough I don't know much about the Russian / Afghanistan war. I'm currently reading about the Falklands War, but my next book should be about the Russian war in Afghanistan.

argument wise, the magician actually does pull a rabbit from his hat.

just saying.

That's the old way of thinking

When they gave the bay bridge contact to China, they said we couldn't do it, now the bridge is shut down because of failing welds and bolts.

Our government is fucking us over, period, this is not a dem vs gop thing, it's about profit.
We have more oil in the US than any of the country's in the middle east.

Right now we have a weak leader, he thought things would get better because he was more tolerant to the middle east than Bush, truth is he has no balls and that's why Reagan didn't bow to foreign powers and ended the cold war, Russia has no respect for Barry, and the other middle east countries have no respect for him as well.

I'm waiting to see if he declares war without congress voting on it, that's his style

Really??? Ok, here is the same question again: do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan? Ah, Einstein?

You're just bombing and hiding while Soviets were trying to change the whole country (infrastructure, med care, education etc). Feel the deference.

1.5M deads in afghanistan, Soviet Union loses 14k men and for the offical history, they lost the war ????

We aren't doing that in Afghanistan? I thought we were. I've been reading about schools, power plants, roads... And a dam?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2...cts-To-Afghans

Well, they were there for a shorter period, had nearly four times the KIA, and didn't seem to accomplish our goal. We accomplished our goal. Keep in mind our beef really wasn't with the Taliban; It was with Al Qaeda.

We killed millions and they killed thousands of us. Even the worst case stats say it was thousands to one. That's all it was ever about in the first place so we won.

Who came up with these numbers, aren't rebels civilians? The US interfered and turned the Mujahideen into the Taliban, it created a monster for themselves, something the Russians were trying to destroy a long time ago.

It is not getting any better is it ?

I really think you need to have a lie down.

:helpme

10 years is short? I quote Wikipedia:

Large numbers of Soviet Airborne Forces joined stationed ground troops and began to land in Kabul on December 25.

On December 27, 1979, 700 Soviet troops occupied major governmental, military and media buildings in Kabul, including their primary target – the Tajbeg Presidential Palace.

On December 27, 1979, the operation began at 19:00 hr., when the KGB-led Soviet Zenith Group destroyed Kabul's communications hub, paralyzing Afghan military command.

At 19:15, the assault on Tajbeg Palace began; as planned, president Hafizullah Amin was killed. Simultaneously, other objectives were occupied (e.g. the Ministry of Interior at 19:15).

The operation was fully complete by the morning of December 28, 1979.

Then the US came to help the so called brave and helpless rebels, first by financial aid, later weapons. One of their commanders and leaders was Osama bin Laden! Should've stayed out, and maybe the twin-towers would still be there.

Once again, Mujaheddins were supported by two powerful countries: the USA and China. What would happen to your army if Taliban was supported by Russia? Something tells me that your KIA would grow many times.

Really? What is your goal then?

Actually Al Qaeda is Taliban. Both were created by CIA, BTW.

Hope there won't be new war...