You're making assumptions.

My apologies for taking the liberty of placing you in the role of the cop doing the ass slapping. I thought that was pretty clear. Obviously not.

Of course, my follow up post with the link showing the COP slapping the child should have cleared that up for you.

Remember that you ARE a Canadian. Your ability to sue the police for anything is virtually non-existent. Americans live for this shit. The cop appears to have been in a NO win situation. People are going to scream that he reacted too harshly. If he took your advice, you can be sure Al Sharpton would be making a case on the nightly news for sexual assault...civil lawsuit to follow.

Oh the shit that could be said here... :1orglaugh

You aren't here to mince words but you are here to twist my opinion with ridiculous crap like this:

You played with me. I played with you.

If you disagree with my opinion, that's completely fine, but you don't need to over exaggerate my opinion into something that it's not. Now I fully realize that you were playing and meant no ill will, just like you should fully realize that I was playing and meant no ill will with the definition of a slap.

Take a breather, it's football season for Christ sake!

How I would have handled the situation?

Even if a 12 year old was beating me i could have handled the situation without even beating the 12 year old. If you can't figure out how yourself... I fully understand why it's ok for you to taze a 12 year old. If you can't control a 12 year old physically without a weapon or even brutal force, you should not be a cop. Force should be proportionate.

You're not ONLY dealing with the 12 year old you know. There's the mother as well. That IS two on one. A swift kick to the nuts by either and it won't take long for them to be on top of YOU.

EXACTLY how would you physically restrain her while causing no harm or pain?

You are not paying attention. By cupping her left butt cheek. She will be so revolted she will run away screaming.

A slap on the ass should do it.

I want you to think about that first yourself... like i said... if you can't figure that out yourself, that's pretty alarming! Now give me your best shot...

They're trained in how to restrain a person. Throw her down and kneel on her back. Just watch an episode of COPS and you'll probably see a few ways to control someone without tasers, batons or guns. Who said you can't cause pain? Cause pain if you need to. It's generally going to be painful when you're in a physical altercation. I think the deal here is a feeling of "trigger happy" on the old tase device.

This post pretty much sums it up.

I'm not the one second guessing the officer's actions, you are. And you are obviously unable to answer my question. You're full of shit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-attacks.html

Looks like the Brit's are blasting kids as well.

Are they trained in how to restrain MULTIPLE persons? They honestly could be, I don't know.

But if the has the MOTHER on the ground in the way you said and the child starts assaulting the cop, what should he then do?

Trigger happy fuckers.

Hey guys, this story is actually over a year old: http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/330...ctorias-Secret

We could probably stop the conjecture and actually find out what happened by now!

I'm less cool with a grown man kneeling on a childs back than I am with him giving her a jolt. What's the BFD about tasers anyway?

Let's be clear. The article says officers. So that isat least two. So two police officers ccouldn't control two small females, one of them being 12 years old.
Tase away

The officer's actions where completely out of proportion... The girl didn't even use violence... or else... indeed, like someone else mentioned in this thread, it would absolutely been noticed by authorities... So i'm not second guessing... i'm making a statement: unnecessary violence!

I am absolutely able to answer your question! But i simply refuse at this point because i think it would be good for you to think about it before getting the answer thrown into your
lap! I really really hope for American society you don't carry a weapon of anykind...

You're full of not having a clue!

"I can answer but maybe I don't feel like it right now!"

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Haven't heard that since grade school. No wonder you indentify so strongly with a 12 year old girl.

PS I carry a GUN!!

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I bet you're handy to have around in a fight :1orglaugh

For traffic violations. CopS, plural. Against a female adult, who you can see isn't exactly an imposing physical force, and a 12 year old child. Inside a shop, inside a mall. I can see how this is an extremely dangerous situation and circumstances.

A parent slaps their child, and the police WILL arrest them, but the police themselves cannot control a 12 year old child without tasing them? Next time you are confronted by a 12 year old child, or even 4 of them, all at the same time, see how you get on if you strike any of them because they started beating on you with their bare fists.

Another funny thing is this argument that it has to be any more force than holding the child's arms. Like it's either tase, or as escorpio says, putting a knee in the kid's back. Really? They are the only 2 options for 2 fully grown, trained police officers? Just holy fuck...

Just have someone shoot a taser into you and not be able to yank it back out to see what's wrong with them. It should not be the first method chosen to subdue someone. I'm *still* upset about the "don't tase me bro" incident where 700 pounds of fat cops had a thin dickwad restrained from all sides, still threw him down and then tasered him with cameras rolling the whole time! Pure fucking torture. People don't give a shit anymore and that's how it is.

I'm not so sure about the officer(S) part.

THIS article says ONE officer and not two, but THREE women...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1729527.html

"During the arrest attempt, Baker, along with another unidentified female, "charged the officer," according to the St. Louis County Crime Report"

And THIS article...

http://newsone.com/2028110/girl-tase...dejamon-baker/

says, "Police say AN officer went inside of the Victoria?s Secret

I hear the word "control" a lot. But never what that word entails.

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Well that's the thing, I mean when asked what I would do I'd say what is required to restrain the person. I'm certain they have many other methods such as bending the wrist or forcing the head down etc. I'm not saying jump up and down on her back until she dies. I'm saying restrain. It's how it used to be done. Sure some felony stops you want more options, but kids or people shopping are probably OK for old school tactics.

Well good, some more details have come out to help shed some light on things.

I'll make a tutorial youtube video about how to control an adult female... (I'm totally not interested in how to control a 12 year old:winkwink:) In the mean time here's the unexpurgated version: called: 4 steps to a pieceful marriage:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/09d34b9a7...4p6o1_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b1a8c6fc4...4p6o1_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/8859fff89...4p6o1_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0454f94b3...4p6o1_1280.jpg

Doesn't the store have cameras?

Oh, you like to ignore reality and pretend like race means nothing in the world.

Last time I was in Canada a lady screamed bloody murder that her purse was stolen, I had a bad time until she found it because I was the only black person there.

Keep pretending, but I can't pretend when someone screams and everyone looks at me and won't let me leave until the idiot remembers they left their shit in the car.

:2 cents:

Store cameras never work when police fuck up.

Google Erik Scott at Costco in Las Vegas

Your calculator is fucked again.

Try post #32 :

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I'll look up your mom's ass as she bends over to get plugged with your mammy's strap-on.

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Absolutely race plays a part sometimes. But not EVERY time and not by EVERYONE. You're the first person to bring up race in this thread, and by your post, it's pretty clear it's first and foremost on your mind. Contrary to your thinking, that's YOUR loss, not mine.

A buddy of mine told me once that he doesn't trust ANY white man. He figured all white people looked at him differently and talked behind his back the second he was gone. To his credit, he rethought his position when I took GREAT offense to it and said something like, "Okay maybe not ALL white people, but most". I told him I felt bad for him living his life thinking that way of everyone and told him the same thing...it's his loss, not mine. I feel bad for you too. (That's genuine btw, not meant to be belittling)

Be smart enough to read the post just two above yours.
"Mammy" used in reference to a female is nothing but race based.

Mammy is a reference to a black female who is enslaved to provide breast milk to white children. It is disputed if the "mammy" is fictional or real, but it's always racist.


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I can see how racism gets annoying. I'm white living in Korea. They are openly racist to me on a daily basis. I'm a grown man though and I laugh it off for the most part. Growing up with it must be much harder.

So you were the SECOND person to bring up race in this thread. Out of ALL the other posts in this thread by numerous other posters, your post implies that EVERYONE is thinking the same thing.

Be smart enough to grasp the rest of my post. You'll probably be a much happier person.