Welp, this tells me you simply don't get it. The whole shabang, you have no clue.

It's like arguing with a cop that the speed limit is too low. Little fucking late after the law was debated, passed, adjudicated and now put into effect. There never was anything to compromise on, just some pricks whining like babies.

I see that you do :1orglaugh

Don't lie, Jim Carey

It was never debated, if I need to remind you Nancy Pelosi said "We'll find out what's in it after it's passed." How can you debate something that you know nothing about?

Baddog, maybe it could be thought of in another way. I know you consider yourself a responsible person, and I'm sure you'd say the vast majority of others aren't as responsible. So there's far fewer good people who take care of themselves and don't expect to be taken care of than there are people who don't plan ahead.

So if this new law makes *everyone* contribute, isn't that going to affect moreso that larger percentage of the population who aren't responsible, honest people? So if that large chunk of people is contributing the lion's share to ensuring all the kids with shitty parents get proper healthcare... Maybe it's not so bad.

I mean in a sense it's another indrect tax. Most people don't even end up paying much if anything in income tax with their part time jobs etc. So from a conservative viewpoint, isn't this a way of getting those people to kick something in?

But Baddog, what if it costs you $50,000 to set your arm? Would you still pay then?


Wouldn't you want your wife to get screening so she could know far in advance that she may develop breast cancer and then begin preventative treatment for it? What about your kids or parents? Just because you don't want to live doesn't mean people around you don't.

You really don't understand the US medical system if you think it would cost $50k to set an arm.

I don't have a wife; my g/f, kids and dad all have insurance. They can do as they wish.

Check this out: http://nasa.gov/ )

Owning a Slave use to be a law, upheld by the court also!!!!!!!!!

$5k or $50K is the same thing to people barely getting by.

The best plan out there, you still pay 10%, Plus your Monthly Fee's

This thread delivered. I needed a good laugh from both sides. No one listened to either! Classic. " now insert quip that's funny, insert another, no one cares. Claim homeless, free".

Pigshit.

Then you can easily name the companies and the names of the persons that wrote the Affordable Care Act. Please educate us.

You are welcome sir!

meanwhile in cuba for example, healthcare is absolutely mother fucking FREE and they have smaller infant mortality than in the USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

but americans will keep believing in their supreme leader, north korea style :1orglaugh

Whether that's true or not, that's not the point. I said "what's good for the majority". There are too many stupid and broke ass Americans that don't understand that this will actually help them.

Case in point: http://gawker.com/kimmel-asks-americ...for-1433866673

read that earlier - don't know whether to laugh or cry

And they all live stacked up in diplapidated shitholes that are smaller than the average americans kitchen. They drive cars that Americans threw away in the 1960's, Kind of like you do. The leaders of course live in mansions and get driven in Mercedes.

Only idiots believes that what the Cuban government says about their country is true..

Voting in the US is a fool's errand - there are no viable choices - they're all the same. Bush, Obama - to me they're both the same. Same wars, same devisness, same bullshit.

Once again you are ignorant of fact...Cuban health care in fact is really bad care for their regular citizens...conducted in facilities that would be condemned in the U.S. They do have rather good health care for foreigners which is paid for with hard cash...but these facilities are not available to the regular Cuban citizens.

As for the myth that they have a lower infant mortality rate than the USA...is because they do not keep the same stats. The biggest difference is that they as many other countries do not have the capability or facilities to care for premature births and the U.S. does...and the death rate on the first day of these births is around 30-40 percent. Cuba and many other countries do not count these as live briths but as fetuses.

You are assuredly one of the most ignorant people on this board...when it comes to knowledge of the U.S....and its people...as well as most world events you babble about.

The two major parties are not the same...but they both are the same as to their competence...or lack thereof.

OK, slept late, help me get up to speed this morning. What flavor is the koolaid today?

so, considering all you have said here, and the fact they have a lower infant mortality rate..

Which they do not have.

overturn citizens united k thanks

I like you, can we be friends ?

You sound like one of those people that think I should wear a helmet for my own good.

Your dog has more common sense than _Dickhead_

.. and you are the most ignorant people ( should be person, but schooling is flawed in the US) on this board ... when it comes to knowledge of Cuba ... and its people ... as well as most world events you bable about .

.. on the other, you probably never set foot in Cuba ... I did , as well as the US ....

Go back in the woods , and live off the government as you stated .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mortality_rate

ill let you two think your way through this list

your country is spelled:

'U-N-I-T-E-D S-T-A-T-E-S'

Pigshit...educate yourself. I don't take orders from you as you are not and never have been in my chain of command and if you were...I would frag your ass. BTW...I have no desire to visit Cuba...I have seen my share of dirt poor 3rd World countries...and don't intend to ever visit another.

I don't need you link...I will let you think your way through this.

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convenient

we were talking about infant mortality in shit holes compared to the USA and how this reflects upon the 2 way nature of your assholes in regards to your government helping itself to them in every possible way...

yes minte, you have a bigger and better house than a cuban guy does :thumbsup

we 60-s car driving coconuts still manage to have the same infant mortality as the USA (serbian and US infant mortality is the same LOL and we are a Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit hooooooooole :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh )
imagine a hole, in this hole there is shit, this is serbia, that has the same infant mortality as you guys :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh get it now? LOL

I am from a 3rd world country just like cuba, and all facilities are available to everybody, you simply do not know and I do...I will agree with you that their buildings are not like in beverly hills but this has shit to do with healthcare, you can keep hygene in a 100 year old building...
our SHIT HOLE country has the same infant mortality as yours...I call bullshit on all points...want to bet? 10:1?
bottom line: you can not view upon your anus with child like innocence after getting treated by US healthcare :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
come on man just admit it: you are getting screwed :1orglaugh

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The affordable care act is law. It's been debated to death, we've been through the "death panels" bullcrap, had elections, had the supreme court weigh in, and right now it is the law. That's the process. The big experiment called democracy.

The joy that some house republicans are having over succeeding in shutting down the government should make people cringe. Go back to 2010 and you'll find clips of them running for office on the promise of a shutdown. It's funny that at the 11th hour they tried very poorly to claim it was Harry Reid or Obama who wanted the shutdown. Try telling parents of children who's head start programs have closed that the shutdown was worth it and I think they'll raise a one fingered salute. GOP pundits go on TV and write how it won't be a big deal while a million people or so aren't being paid and having to look for work, not to mention citizens who may make their one and only trip of a lifetime to a national park, or others who no longer get some form of government help that is temporarily closed. Smooth move come election time. Smooth move. All because of some whiney babies who don't want Americans to get health care on the PROMISE that it will cost them more money. Let the thing play out! That's the process. If it sucks ass, guess who will lead the charge to overturn it? America. Dumb fucking politicians.

Once again your ignorance is showing through. I am not getting screwed. I have had 100% free health care since 1980. BTW...if I would have had to pay the bill would probably be approaching around a million dollars.

lucky for you that you are one of the few in your country who do not have to pay to go and see a doctor and get treatment...

million$ eh? man the total for my 40 years of living is 3000$ for one single surgery that was for something behind my eye and I could not wait the 1 month to get it done free...all the rest was free...maybe I walked in to a pharmacy a few times to pick up some flu medication or aspirin but its like 2$ down here you cant really count that?

the #1 reason for personal bankruptcy in your country is medical bankruptcy...you will not find one single person in my entire 3rd world country that went bankrupt from medical bills :1orglaugh ...how do you guys not get it? you are being screwed...

I've been to Cleveland, Detroit, does not get much worse than that. Havana is a beautiful city. There are many 3rd world cities in the USA if you want to use that argument.