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bean-aid 10-18-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19840361)
$150

Million after taxes

-150 million after the law hammer drops

BIGTYMER 10-18-2013 11:14 PM

Congrats to all the winners! :)

Shap 10-19-2013 01:04 AM

When Mansef sold to Fabian things worked out well for the company. The owners were ready to go and Fabian was ready to take things up a level.

Now Fabian is bought out and I think this will work out great for Manwin and they will probably become stronger as a company.

DamianJ 10-19-2013 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19840011)
I did not know the UK was part of the EU

Yes, but you are notoriously fucking stupid.

Pornopat 10-19-2013 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19840240)
i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

Awesome irony.

Nurgle 10-19-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19839541)
you must have a raging boner right now huh ;))

sad part is your probably right.... funny thing is Fabien is the one with a few zeros on a check being paid to him and Mike is cheering he has the right information......

funny he always said he wasnt an owner lol

One day mike will get back to reporting news... right???

Barefootsies 10-19-2013 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19840560)
Yes, but you are notoriously fucking stupid.


Alex1776 10-19-2013 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19840240)
i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

Just want to re-post mike's complete idiocy

DWB 10-19-2013 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achmed (Post 19839943)
Mike Souths please email me I have breakings news

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19840240)
i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

:1orglaugh

Awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 19840247)
For 300 mil, I'd sodomize everyone bitching in this thread with a chainshaw and use their innards to make blood sausage for breakfast.

That's kind of sad really, but hey, the world will always need whores willing to do anything for money. Prostitutes make the world go 'round. :2 cents:

BTW... it's chainsaw. Perhaps you could use $1.99 out of that $300 million to buy a spelling app. Just sayin'.

OldJeff 10-19-2013 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by philguy (Post 19840247)
If this is true, let me get this straight...do you halfwits whining understand this man just walked away with 300, that is THREE HUNDRED million dollars?

None of you content whores can stalk facebook for damaged 18 year olds or find enough tranny hookers in a 1000 years to make that kind of cash.

For 300 mil, I'd sodomize everyone bitching in this thread with a chainshaw and use their innards to make blood sausage for breakfast.

I thought the money I made in the late 90's, early 2000's was impressive. This guy just won and I mean owned all of your asses.

This demonstrates why content providers for the most part will always be suitcase pimps...I say good for him. What he did was legal and he'll pay his tax shit. Welcome to business 101; if it's legal and profitable, you do it.


I like you, can we be friends :)

NinjaSteve 10-19-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19840636)
BTW... it's chainsaw. Perhaps you could use $1.99 out of that $300 million to buy a spelling app. Just sayin'.

He didn't $300 million yet. So... chainshaw it is! (for now?) :pimp

dyna mo 10-19-2013 07:05 AM

i thought he meant he was going to give everyone chain shawls

http://www.crochetconcupiscence.com/...wl-pattern.jpg

facialfreak 10-19-2013 07:22 AM

My bitcoins itch ........

SZNY 10-19-2013 07:26 AM

Wooow congrats with 300M you can start new nice things :)

adultmobile 10-19-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achmed (Post 19839943)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19840240)
i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

http://socialmediaseo.net/wp-content...-wikileaks.jpg
http://bitcoinexaminer.org/wp-conten...efense-mod.jpg

slapass 10-19-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19840253)
This makes sense. Majority shareholder owns company worth 600m+, sells to management for 300m. :)

So now when that's not true he either
a) publicly made false announcement, and made contract with the management to lead the company while he still owns it
b) was never the majority shareholder

Or owed 300m still to the Wall Street firm that funded his moves? Or value has dropped for a quick sale. Your own math puts him at 50% owner.

slapass 10-19-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19840361)
$150

Million after taxes


Long term capital gains. I say congrats. The guy worked a loophole and came out a winner.

:thumbsup

Ps: I don't produce content so it flavors my view.

DWB 10-19-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 19840749)
He didn't $300 million yet. So... chainshaw it is! (for now?) :pimp

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19840760)
i thought he meant he was going to give everyone chain shawls

http://www.crochetconcupiscence.com/...wl-pattern.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

mineistaken 10-19-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19839635)
Schengen Treaty :winkwink:

free within the EU

Not all EU. UK is not Schengen, so another reason...

mineistaken 10-19-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19840361)
$150

Million after taxes

50% income tax? Dayumm.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-19-2013 12:13 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r-NP6ITrKx..._of_march+02.j

Translated from Die Welt:

Quote:

The rumors were circulating in the porn industry for a while : The top executives of the Internet giant Manwin sex would be the German company owner Fabian Thylmann like to get rid of , because German prosecutors are investigating him on suspicion of tax evasion.

Behind closed doors, it was said : Thylmann should get an offer he could not refuse.

Now it is apparently so far . The American trade magazine XBIZ reported : Thylmann sold his shares in the Group , which includes the well-known brands such as Porn Youporn , Pornhub or MyDirtyHobby , a " top management team " of the group .

The magazine quotes a letter from Fabian Thylmann and his wife to the employees of Manwin . With " sadness in the heart " they had opted for the step. " Please believe me , this decision was one of the worst in the lives of my wife and me ," reads the letter .

The exact reasons for the leave , the couple left in the dark . "Both myself and Manwin , are at a point where I can contribute no decisive value more with my skills ," writes Thylmann .

Future will be decided in Canada

The IT entrepreneur named nor the names of top managers who take over the company now . The usually well-informed industry blogger Mike South writes , however , that it shall be at the buyers to Feras Antoon and David Tassilo .

Both are managers in the Canadian site of Manwin in Montreal , where the majority of the employees sitting . The site is considered the largest and most important group of companies and Antoon as the central figure in Montreal .

After Thylmann was arrested last December by German prosecutors and spent several days in custody , Antoon had already replaced him as CEO of Manwin Holding Sarl . This is the ultimate holding company of Mawin , which is registered in Luxembourg .

Thylmann the time being , however, remained the sole owner . Why did he just now decided to sell and if anyone has had on him pressure is unclear.

Purchase price could be more than $ 100 million

South claimed that several informants were opposite a purchase price of 100 million dollars ( 73 million euros ) talked to him , get the Thlymann for the group.

In addition, there is a " Note on an additional 200 million" . Whether the sum is correct, where the Canadian managers have the money and whether other investors are involved is not known .

Fabian Thylmann thus ending an unusually successful career with the dubious corporate network . In recent years Thylmann had placed a breathtaking expansion with Manwin bought together and many well known porn company . Long the Mitdreißiger was considered the new Hugh Heffner . Also because Manwin a license of "Playboy" for online marketing and the TV received the Bunny brand .

On the other hand polarized Thylmann the global porn industry because he offers with so-called tube sites Onlinesex free . He was the ultimate low-cost competition , a revolutionary business models , but is also a mystery.

Thlymann created the largest online porn company in the world

According to XBIZ Manwin is now the largest online porn company in the world . The group operates tube porn sites and other offers like Youporn , Pornhub , Reality Kings , XTube , Brazzers , extremetube , MyDirtyHobby , the porn studio Digital Playground and Live Sex offer Webcams.com .

The money for the many acquisitions came from a 362- million-dollar loan that provides Thylmann had two former Goldman Sachs banker. A portion of the credit can be traced back to the New York hedge fund Fortress Investment Group .

The "Welt am Sonntag " had the dubious structures and methods of Manwin made ​​public a year ago and the first newspaper described the career of the boss and founder Fabian Thylmann .

The dossier also focused on abnormalities in the company's design, gave rise to the suspicion of tax evasion. Thus , the reporter found the Luxembourg office , where the ultimate holding company and several subsidiaries reside , orphaned before .

They also discovered a complex network of more than 35 companies in Montreal , London, Hamburg , Los Angeles and in Cyprus.

In 2012 came the Dezemer tax investigation

In particular, statements of employees and documents from the Hamburg office of the sex sites MyDirtyHobby had then pointed to questionable business practices. So were German porn actor for their films invoices indicating the Cypriot VAT has been deducted .

Questions about Thylmann left and then his spokeswoman unanswered. However, they were later legal action against the publication of the "Welt am Sonntag " before and lost in court.

In December 2012, then slammed the German tax investigation . The officers searched Thylmanns villa in Brussels and the Manwin office in Hamburg. The Manwin boss spent several days in custody.

Waiting for the prosecution

Only against the payment of a two -digit million deposit he was free again . His passport , the authorities maintained a .

Two German prosecutors determined the meantime against the employer . To the suspicion of tax evasion - the talk is of more than ten million euros - was also suspected of disseminating pornography to minors.

How long the authorities will need for their investigation and whether there will be charges , almost exactly a year after the first release in the "Welt am Sonntag" in sight.

In Thylmanns farewell letter to his employees any self-criticism is in any case to recognize : "I hope I have all of you and the management taught the correct values ​​in order to run the business on the way I look forward to its further development Who knows, maybe . . some will our paths cross again .


:stoned

ADG

ladida 10-19-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19840805)
Or owed 300m still to the Wall Street firm that funded his moves? Or value has dropped for a quick sale. Your own math puts him at 50% owner.

Exactly, by that math he would be 50% owner, which he said he was not. So he lied then or now. I believe now.
The firm that loaned the money loaned it to the company, there's no reason for him to feel personal liability based on that.

L-Pink 10-19-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19841037)
Exactly, by that math he would be 50% owner, which he said he was not. So he lied then or now. I believe now.
The firm that loaned the money loaned it to the company, there's no reason for him to feel personal liability based on that.

Unless he also signed a personal guarantee.

Ad-Min 10-19-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19840017)
No, if you don't have any skin in the game...I can't explain it to you at all. Thanks for asking.

LOL,exactly what i've expected!
Thanks for proving me that you have no clue! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ad-Min 10-19-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19840202)
LOL I thought the same thing but was not going to bother.

Yes,me neither,at first i was about to edit my post like :

Nevermind,i don't care what you think and i don't care what Fabian is doing!

I've missed that chance and i've got that reply,LOL

madeofmoney 10-19-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19840981)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r-NP6ITrKx..._of_march+02.j

Translated from Die Welt:





:stoned

ADG

http://i.imgur.com/A411iKA.jpg

Markul 10-20-2013 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19840240)
i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

Oh man. You'll be hearing for that one for a long time :pimp

signupdamnit 10-20-2013 06:45 AM

Many of us have been saying something like this would happen sooner rather than later. Of course the usual suspects laughed that off, as is usually done by the adult bro club.

I wish Fabian and his family the best. I don't like what Manwin and the people behind them helped do to this industry but Fabian has usually been pretty cool over the years to answer questions here and engage in debate. I have to respect that. Also I still feel, despite what he says, that he was always more just doing a job and never in full control.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Manwin now. In my opinion this isn't good and is a bad sign.

signupdamnit 10-20-2013 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19840060)
15 year payment plan (only 13 left). Talked to Fabian today he assured me all was good I'll get paid

I'm surprised you would do a 15 year payment plan. Most of the big companies from 15 years ago aren't around today. Heck, the same is true to some extent for 5 years. You are taking on a lot of risk.

MrDeiz 10-20-2013 07:11 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1124003

BareBacked 10-20-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19841429)
I'm surprised you would do a 15 year payment plan. Most of the big companies from 15 years ago aren't around today. Heck, the same is true to some extent for 5 years. You are taking on a lot of risk.

<sarcasm>
opps
</sarcasm>

Shap 10-20-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19841429)
I'm surprised you would do a 15 year payment plan. Most of the big companies from 15 years ago aren't around today. Heck, the same is true to some extent for 5 years. You are taking on a lot of risk.

Sorry i was just being a jerk with that reply. I was paid in full the day the deal closed :thumbsup

NewNick 10-20-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19839563)
Didn't say you did.



Not many front men can sell the company? Kinda defeats the idea of having a front man, doesn't it?

That would be a valid point if you believe that he ever bought the company in the first place.

Lets re cap the press releases that we have been told over the years.


Unless I am mistaken he bought the company for over $100m. I dont think even his biggest fans argue that he walked in with cash. So he either managed to borrow $100m to buy a company that was under serious scrutiny by law enforcement at the time, or the $100m never changed hands. Or his "ownership" was always at the gift of individuals with the real power.

I for one do not believe that it is possible to borrow money to buy companies that are having their bank accounts frozen and assets seized because they are accused of laundering money. You might be able to borrow the cash from dubious sources, but Not from bona fides financial institutions with shareholders and regulators to answer to.

Manwin under his leadership then went on to raise 100s of millions of dollars more from wall st to grow the empire, all at a time when the global economic machine was grinding to a halt.

And now he has sold the company for the same $100m and promise of jam later ?

So one would assume that the additional payments come with all manner of caveats. e.g. Forgetting where the skeletons are, taking the rap on the tax charges etc.

So in for $100m, and out for the same sum. Along the way he way he collected some serious criminal charges regarding his personal tax affairs.

Now I dont care about Manwin, Fabian, Mike South, or any of the other peeps getting hot under the collar here. But the dogs in the street know that this story is horseshit, and from what I can see our erstwhile hero appears to have been chewed up and spat out by the company he claimed to own.

He arrived with nothing, and he is leaving with nothing. Except for looming prison time, and some very interesting dinner party conversation. :2 cents:

mikesouth 10-20-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19841299)
Oh man. You'll be hearing for that one for a long time :pimp

come on yall im having fun with it LOL

DerKramer 10-20-2013 09:45 AM

Just wonder if is good or bad news...time will show....

DWB 10-20-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19841507)
come on yall im having fun with it LOL

That was a good one.

adultmobile 10-20-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19840981)

Translated from Die Welt:

"The usually well-informed industry blogger Mike South writes"

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/...ra_m794923.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-20-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19841684)

http://www.unocero.com/wp-content/up...ión-fiscal.jpg

:stoned

ADG

JohnnyPearl 10-20-2013 01:33 PM

Manwin just laid off 200+ people on Friday from the Montreal office.

Barefootsies 10-20-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyPearl (Post 19841699)
Manwin just laid off 200+ people on Friday from the Montreal office.

Not possible.

The news report did not break on mikesouth.com and he's in the know on everything Fabio/Manwinning.

:disgust

Robbie 10-20-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad-Min (Post 19841048)
LOL,exactly what i've expected!
Thanks for proving me that you have no clue! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No pal...I proved that you have no clue. If you were really in this business you would understand. Thanks for you input surfmaster.

Robbie 10-20-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19841462)
Sorry i was just being a jerk with that reply. I was paid in full the day the deal closed :thumbsup

Good deal! :)

JohnnyPearl 10-20-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19841702)
Not possible.

The news report did not break on mikesouth.com and he's in the know on everything Fabio/Manwinning.

:disgust

lol!! Good one.. But seriously they canned 200+ people on Friday. Shut down whole departments.

Shap 10-20-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyPearl (Post 19841699)
Manwin just laid off 200+ people on Friday from the Montreal office.

Gonna run a tight money making ship now imo

Shap 10-20-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19841711)
Good deal! :)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

DWB 10-20-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19841731)
Gonna run a tight money making ship now imo

You mean a pirate ship. :upsidedow

Ad-Min 10-20-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19841708)
No pal...I proved that you have no clue. If you were really in this business you would understand. Thanks for you input surfmaster.

right,i am surfing the web since 1998! :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-20-2013 03:12 PM

200 Laid-Off Manwin Employees (well, 201 if you count Fabian/Nathan)... :upsidedow

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyPearl (Post 19841699)

Manwin just laid off 200+ people on Friday from the Montreal office.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19841702)

Not possible.

The news report did not break on mikesouth.com and he's in the know on everything Fabio/Manwinning.

:disgust

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyPearl (Post 19841720)

lol!! Good one.. But seriously they canned 200+ people on Friday. Shut down whole departments.

From Mike South blog, July 30, 2013 (less than 3 months ago):

Quote:

Manwin Laying Off Lots of People
By MikeSouth
July 30th, 2013

In the past week or so Manwin has cut employees pretty much across all of their properties, Digital Playground lost about half of their production staff with some being replaced by cheaper workers. Any idea that DP will ever do another blockbuster like ?Pirates? is an unlikely scenario, but it isn?t just Digital Playground, they have also laid people off from virtually all of their other properties as well. Playboy in particular stands out. Word on the street is that?s the one that will fall first. Playboy is reportedly fed up withManwin devaluing the brand. Most people involved believe that October 15th will be the end of Playboys run with Sirus/XM Radio when Sirus cancels the contract.
Quote:

What it looks like here is that Manwin is running out of money and they are trying to hold together a crumbling empire. You haven?t heard so much as a peep from Fabian in months and the power structure at Manwin is being hidden in ways similar to how the Chinese Government worked in the 80s, more on that coming.
I remember Fabian posting how Manwin was stronger than ever and expanding...

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/temp/G...dad_Nathan.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19739532)

Can you at least PRETEND to have facts before you post stuff? Your posts usually are funny, but it gets literally stupid when you start claiming things without ANY proof at all.

I am not even talking about your deductive skills that make you believe that Manwin is firing "lots" of people or that we are in a financials crisis spinning out of control... I realize your intellect is not big enough to actually understand these things... But at least put SOME thought in what you write, or I will lose a fun morning reading source! :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19739548)

HAHA I drew him out but it wont last George and / or Feras will soon tell him to shut the fuck up....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19739553)

Right... George or Feras... Lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19740030)

But wait, I thought I am controlled by George and Feras? How could I be looking for a new investor?! Then again it fits the rest of the logic here I guess...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...aughposter.jpg

On the bright side, at least the layoffs will improve the employee to restroom ratio. :thumbsup :winkwink:

Strange Factoid: Fabian was forced out of business before Paul Markham closed his business. :helpme :warning :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

madeofmoney 10-20-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19841757)
You mean a pirate ship. :upsidedow

http://i.imgur.com/nfabG9f.jpg

globofun 10-20-2013 03:30 PM

The close protection budget got busted?


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