+1 same here, it still pisses me off bigtime that they blackmailing me with this fucked up BS email, they are just now way closer to the trasher then before

I'm really really really sorry about this!!!!!

Please forgive us. That came out all wrong.

As some of you are aware, we have a very international staff and English is not our first language. The email was also sent out a bit accidentally. Some affiliates received the corrected version of that email without the mangled up last paragraph.

To clear things up, your account will not be deactivated.
Your sales will not be scrubbed or shaved or poofed into oblivion.

Many of you have worked with us for nearly decade and we've run one of the most straight, honest programs. That isn't changing.

You can contact me directly if you have any questions: michael [at] femjoy.com

We are currently going through a bit of damage control with this among our staff and I apologize once again for this mistake.

You can also follow the other thread about this here: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19953101

No, we fucked up. The email says if you don't respond, we'll close your account even if you got rebills with us. We didn't mean to say that.

We are beginning to clean up our affiliate list. Right now, anyone can sign up as an affiliate and other program owners can relate to the problem of users signing up just to get some free content.

So we will start clearing up accounts that have sent us ZERO traffic and ZERO sales over a long period of time because usually those accounts are dead.

Unfortunately, this email was sent out prematurely, worded incorrectly, and en mass, instead of to the targetted affiliates involved.

To the contrary, we wanted to announce to all our past and present affiliates, how much our ratios have improved over the last year after we made some major optimizations to the site and our galleries. We want you to come back to us because some of the stats we are seeing are better than other sites in our niche.

To the affiliates we angered: I apologize.

To the affiliates who gave us the benefit of the doubt and time to respond in this thread: thank you for your patience, but we would have understood if you were angry at us about this. We totally goofed.

so why are you sending those emails out? it is very easy ... you are pushing your affiliates this fucked up way ... why just dont send them email, please, can you send more traffic and sales, as other programs are doing it? why you must send emails like send more sales, or we will waste even more of your time with you removing our content! ... sad ... :2 cents:

not sure who is doing all that marketing pimpin things at femjoy, but tell him wake the fuck up its 2014!!!

question: what about those who send no traffic/sales but have referred other webmasters?

@lucas131

In case you haven't read, they made a mistake and michael has apologised for it. It doesn't seem that there is any more to it, your comment is out of place.

@michael

If it was done by mistake then fine, these things can happen anywhere. Although replying by email to people who wrote back to affiliates @femjoy.com would have been reassuring that somebody read the messages.

I wanted to ask you what are the chances of having the account suspended by FEMJOY if somebody sends traffic but has had zero sales over a long period of time. Druid mentioned on this thread that he was told by Met-Art that as long as he sends traffic the account will remain open, I am wondering if that is the same policy at FEMJOY.

oh ok then, friends forever :)

All solved, it was wrong emailing sent.

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They do this when they want to steal your traffic or your money. It's the same when an affiliate program that has 100 or 200 dollar payouts wants all that cash laying around in old affiliate accounts. It does not cost anything to keep an affiliate, especially a CCBill affiliate. CCBill does not delete anything. This is why I use yourls.com for all my affiliate links. If something changes, I own the link and I just change their link out and keep my traffic.

Ruben, or I, would go over it with you. If you are sending a lot of traffic, but it isn't converting, we'll try to make changes.

We are working on more tools such as targetted landing pages, to better convert the traffic our affiliates are sending.

If we see that your traffic isn't the best fit for our products and there really isn't anything we can do, we would gladly suggest other sites that are better suited for your business, and to work with whatever connections we have with affiliate managers at other programs, to give you the support you need.

At Society Invite, we set accounts into a "dormant mode" if they have not been logged into after a month.

Its easy to get reactivated though, its just a security measure.

at least good to see that gfy is still working and solving problems ... like this "mistake", think someone learned something at femjoy and will think twice before scarying affiliates with similar shit ... :2 cents: ... oh, sorry, i forgot, it was a mistake ... :1orglaugh :Oh crap

I have now received a personalised help email from Femjoy michael and after looking at my blogs set up he has been very helpful giving me tips about how to increase conversion rates.

And I mean helpful tips of the kind that don't contain referral links at the bottom of the tip and are impartial. Thank you.

Sorry Femjoy but this is fucking retarded on your part!

My company has, as of just now (I just checked) 1,256 CCBill affiliates. Probably 1000 of them do nothing (or very little) yet they are webmasters with traffic. So here's an idea for Femjoy (and any other retarded company thinking of doing this retarded BS): how about trying to reach out to these dormant webmasters, trying to convince them to promote your product? Threatening to drop them will only get you responses like mine (and others).

But maybe it was a mistake? Shit happens, eh? Keep the affiliates.

I actually wish I could edit my last post, there has been bad new developments this afternoon.

I am going to wait a couple of days before I post about it because I want to give Femjoy a chance to fix it, I am getting fed up with this fucking bullshit. Whatever happens I will let you know what has happened, but for any webmaster thinking that all is ok, no it is not.

now that's getting real interesting, where's popcorn? :D

I am stressed out still thinking about the last email I received from Ruben (Femjoy affiliate admin), he isnt getting back to me today, no hurry for him, so I opened a new thread about this and let's see if we are done with it.

FEMJOY stop fucking around and give an answer to my question
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19955381#post19955381

Hi Malcarada,

I understand your frustration and we are working to get a clear answer for you.
Ruben is dealing with hundreds of other affiliate questions and everything is being run through a ticket-tracking system so we can be sure that EVERYONE will be contacted. It's also why I refrained from sending you more emails after replying to the last 3 you sent last night. I replied to all your emails. :)

Ruben works normal hours so the office is closed at the moment.

He will look over your account and discuss with you options. It's his responsibility.

I can only give you, and our valued affiliates, a general answer I provided in the previous reply: if you are sending traffic, making the improvements, and still not generating sales, it may be better for you to try promoting something else with that traffic.

This is how we view it: we see great people like you, sending your hard-earned traffic to us, and not making the money you should. You deserve to make money. We are not in the business to pad our affiliate numbers. We want you to make money, so if we aren't the type of product your traffic would buy, you should send it to something they would! We have no qualms about that.

Rebills are safe, but if you haven't had a sale in a while, we don't want your traffic to be wasted.

Hello michael,

I want to thank you for replying to my last 3 emails, one of them in direct reply to you reaching out to me first, the second one a four lines Postdata message and the third one a two lines Postdata message to let you know my actual non adult webmaster job since you asked that question in your email and I found it would have been rude for me to ignore anything you wanted to know.

I can confirm that you replied to all of them and were very helpful looking over my blogs and giving me useful tips, no doubt about that.

You are right that I was a little frustrated when I wrote the post because in my mind everything had been settled and on receiving the last message from Ruben Femjoy it unveiled that it has not and on reading your post it is clear that nothing has been decided yet about closing down affiliates accounts with no sales which is why this long thread was initially opened.

Thank you for giving general pointers about the question instead of just apparent it was never heard.

Things are much more clear now and I will not bother you again. I hope that other people whom believed that everything had been settled now realise too that nothing has been decided yet.