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TheSquealer 01-27-2014 09:57 AM

I've done nothing but sacrifice in my life for the things I wanted. I was working 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a long time. When I was finally drawing mid 7 figures a year as a result of that very hard work, suddenly people who weren't willing to dedicate themselves and sacrifice were acting like I owed them, like I was just lucky and like I had little to do with my own success.

That's a real shame.

When I was a child, success was admired. Success was something to aspire to. Now it's just excuses and blame.... And "of course, he cheated"

You guys would never tell your child everyday "you can't succeed and you can't be what you want" but you have zero qualms about broadcasting that message, loud and clear, 24/7 to the rest of society and it's obviously a corrosive and destructive thing to do and hurts everyone,

12clicks 01-27-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959283)
I apologize for not knowing your life story. I only know (some) of what you have done online. I doubt being a roofer for 15 had anything to do with your success online.

My roofing biz was successful too

dyna mo 01-27-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959145)
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19959198)
Or maybe some people are smarter and more ambitious than other people. And they actively seek out opportunity and don't blow it when the chance comes their way.

There isn't and delusion to that. I've seen it with my own two eyes as I've passed other people who had even MORE opportunity than I did. While they blew opportunities and wasted time...it was easy to walk right past them in the game of life simply by busting ass and being smarter.


He does have a point, 4 of the wealthiest on that list are Waltons. They inherited their wealth.

Also, luck play a part in many stories of success.

BFT3K 01-27-2014 09:58 AM

Here in the US In the 1950s and 1960s it generally required one worker (usually the Dad) to work one 40 hour job, to buy a house and a car, pay all the bills, put the kids through school, and retire, often with a pension.

Two of my uncles were barbers, right off the boat, and both purchased 2 family homes, for example.

If you don't think that the "American Dream" is dead, you are not facing reality.

woj 01-27-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19959309)

Cont'd...

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"If you believe that poverty is the domain of the comfortably poor, black, unemployed, unmotivated and uneducated among us, you have been sadly misled. Prepare to be astonished by numbers that tell a very different story.

In 2010 the Census Bureau reported that 1 in 6 Americans (15 percent) are poor, a rate that was held steady in 2011. "

they make it sound like they worked out something brilliant.... but really it's a pointless, captain obvious statement... when looking at statistics, 1 in 6 of anything will fit into some undesirable group... (for example: 1 in 6 of Americans are short)

yea, I'm really "astonished" that 1/6 fall into arbitrarily picked income group...:error :1orglaugh

12clicks 01-27-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959279)
You are by far the most delusional one of them all. You worked as a roofer during the day and another job at night.

Why did you switch to running porn sites, cause clearly the roofing job + other job was waaay harder work then adding xsales going to flash game websites....

Odd, you'd think if my business was so easy, more of you at the bottom could do it

_Richard_ 01-27-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959359)
I've done nothing but sacrifice in my life for the things I wanted. I was working 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a long time. When I was finally drawing mid 7 figures a year as a result of that very hard work, suddenly people who weren't willing to dedicate themselves and sacrifice were acting like I owed them, like I was just lucky and like I had little to do with my own success.

That's a real shame.

When I was a child, success was admired. Success was something to aspire to. Now it's just excuses and blame.... And "of course, he cheated"

You guys would never tell your child everyday "you can't succeed and you can't be what you want" but you have zero qualms about broadcasting that message, loud and clear, 24/7 to the rest of society and it's obviously a corrosive and destructive thing to do and hurts everyone,

who.. are you talking to with this post? You appear to just be rambling on about your childhood

arock10 01-27-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959348)
We're not talking about 10 year olds. We're talking about grown ass men acting like 10 year olds by droning on and on about how everything is someone else's fault and NOTHING is their own.

I'm literally talking about hard working 10 year olds. Who cares if they are only 10 and small. They are hard working, so that is all they need to succeed at anything... right?

Just like this short asian kid in middle school who lives next door that plays basketball every day. Since he plays basketball every day there is no reason why he shouldn't be the best basketball player in the world since he is so hard working.

BlackCrayon 01-27-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 19959362)
My roofing biz was successful too

That's good but i doubt you're the guy on the roof. Typically successful roofing businesses hire people to do the dirty work.

dyna mo 01-27-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19959365)
Here in the US In the 1950s and 1960s it generally required one worker (usually the Dad) to work one 40 hour job, to buy a house and a car, pay all the bills, put the kids through school, and retire, often with a pension.

Two of my uncles were barbers, right off the boat, and both purchased 2 family homes, for example.

If you don't think that the "American Dream" is dead, you are not facing reality.

more sarcasm?

Robbie 01-27-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959358)
The government that is run by private money in the form of lobbyists and unlimited political contributions...

So is it the government or the private corporations and wealthy individuals that want you to think its the government's fault ;)

I just totally disagree with that.

The govt. DWARFS every "big" corporation in the world put together in terms of money. And it spends more in a week than the entire worth of a guy like Warren Buffet

I don't know about you...but I find it hard to "run" something with my money when that something (the govt. in this case) has enough money to buy and sell EVERY corporation on Earth several times over.

As I've said many, many times...you can not buy what is not for sale.
If the govt. weren't inherently corrupt and full of lifetime/career politicians who are lining their pockets and the pockets of their friends and cronies...then our country would be in much better shape.

I don't blame any businessman for trying to get on the playing field by buying influence.

But these days it's more like extortion by the govt.
If you DON'T pay...then you will be shut down. And the ones who DO pay get to play the game and make money.

I know it's a different viewpoint than the one you see (that business is the bad guy and govt. is being used)...but I think of it like this:
The Govt. decides who "wins" and who "loses". And ONLY the govt. has that power. If one oil company doesn't pay the extortion fee...that's fine! Another one will and the one that didn't gets punished.

Plus, the last time I checked...we don't vote for business owners and corporations to run the country. We vote for representatives who are supposed to make sure that bad things don't happen.

I'm putting the blame right where it belongs: On lifetime/career bureaucrats who are destroying our country.

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:06 AM

Children are not adults. Children are not responsible for their behavior and decisions and the outcomes of their decisions.. Their brains aren't even developed to the point that they can fully understand the concepts you are taking about... So no, it's not even remotely close to being the same. That's why children are treated as children until the age of 18.

Sly 01-27-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959377)
That's good but i doubt you're the guy on the roof. Typically successful roofing businesses hire people to do the dirty work.

Is it your contention that he just woke up one day and randomly owned a roofing business?

BFT3K 01-27-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19959379)
more sarcasm?

Nope, that time I was referencing historical reality.

arock10 01-27-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 19959370)
Odd, you'd think if my business was so easy, more of you at the bottom could do it

I'm sorry you had to work hard for 15 years doing two jobs. Clearly you should've been smarter at your approach to things.

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19959388)
Is it your contention that he just woke up one day and randomly owned a roofing business?

You clearly don't understand how business works. You wake up one day and just decide to cheat and steal and exploit others and money starts tumbling in. Hard work and sacrifice has nothing to do with it at all. That's what they are all trying to tell you!

blackmonsters 01-27-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959322)
You guys crack me up. There is a great reason none of you are coaches.

If you had a pro football team to manage, all we'd hear is:

1) the field is not fair
2) the rules are not fair
3) the uniforms are not fair
4) the shoes are not fair
5) the stadium is not fair
6) the fans aren't fair
7) budgets aren't fair
8) losing is not our fault
9) keeping score is not fair

etc etc etc etc etc.

In the meantime, those great coaches on other teams will still be there, wondering what the fuck you are talking about as they work diligently to bring the best out of each and every player... and choosing players who want to be champions... that have a great work ethic, that are great team players and that all want to win.

They will work harder.
They will work longer.
They will sacrifice more.
They will play harder to win.

They will beat you every single time because they understand that difference between success and failure lies primarily about how bad you want it and how hard you are going to work for it.

But if I am rich I will buy up all the football fields and you won't have a fucking place to play.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-27-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19959390)
Nope, that time I was referencing historical reality.

Then going by the definition of the American dream, several people in this thread are proving you are incorrect.

arock10 01-27-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19959383)
I just totally disagree with that.

The govt. DWARFS every "big" corporation in the world put together in terms of money. And it spends more in a week than the entire worth of a guy like Warren Buffet

I don't know about you...but I find it hard to "run" something with my money when that something (the govt. in this case) has enough money to buy and sell EVERY corporation on Earth several times over.

As I've said many, many times...you can not buy what is not for sale.
If the govt. weren't inherently corrupt and full of lifetime/career politicians who are lining their pockets and the pockets of their friends and cronies...then our country would be in much better shape.

I don't blame any businessman for trying to get on the playing field by buying influence.

But these days it's more like extortion by the govt.
If you DON'T pay...then you will be shut down. And the ones who DO pay get to play the game and make money.

I know it's a different viewpoint than the one you see (that business is the bad guy and govt. is being used)...but I think of it like this:
The Govt. decides who "wins" and who "loses". And ONLY the govt. has that power. If one oil company doesn't pay the extortion fee...that's fine! Another one will and the one that didn't gets punished.

Plus, the last time I checked...we don't vote for business owners and corporations to run the country. We vote for representatives who are supposed to make sure that bad things don't happen.

I'm putting the blame right where it belongs: On lifetime/career bureaucrats who are destroying our country.

How do you get elected without all that private money funding your election? Sure there is exceptions, but you have to make lots of promises to private interests to get there...

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959391)
I'm sorry you had to work hard for 15 years doing two jobs. Clearly you should've been smarter at your approach to things.

So now he worked hard,... But only because he is dumb.

Interesting take on the bulk of society and almost all small business owners.

arock10 01-27-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959386)
Children are not adults. Children are not responsible for their behavior and decisions and the outcomes of their decisions.. Their brains aren't even developed to the point that they can fully understand the concepts you are taking about... So no, it's not even remotely close to being the same. That's why children are treated as children until the age of 18.

well except when it comes to the death penalty ;)

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959401)
well except when it comes to the death penalty ;)

The death penalty for minors (which doesn't exist) has nothing to do with adults and their life choices.

BFT3K 01-27-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19959398)
Then going by the definition of the American dream, several people in this thread are proving you are incorrect.

It's not about me, it's about history.

Robbie 01-27-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959399)
How do you get elected without all that private money funding your election? Sure there is exceptions, but you have to make lots of promises to private interests to get there...

That's my point.

The Republican and Democratic parties have set up elections so that it's almost impossible for any candidate not working within their machine to even get on the ballot...much less get elected.

From everything I've seen in my lifetime...I'm firmly of the belief that the entire political game is designed to milk money from business and corporations.
As I said, if you are trying to play in the big leagues you MUST pay money to bureaucrats and politicians. On the local or national level.

Otherwise you are shut out.
That is our govt. doing that.

dyna mo 01-27-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19959408)
It's not about me, it's about history.

No. It's about reality.

arock10 01-27-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959405)
The death penalty for minors (which doesn't exist) has nothing to do with adults and their life choices.

Being tried as an adult for choices made as a minor and sentenced to death certainly exists.

Robbie 01-27-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19959408)
It's not about me, it's about history.

You mean the "good old days" of the 1950's and 1960's?

I think a LOT of people (women, minorities, etc) would totally disagree with your assessment of the "good old days".

The work force was mostly white males back then. And blacks and women who could find work were horribly underpaid.

But keep on reminiscing! It's a great story!

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959412)
Being tried as an adult for choices made as a minor and sentenced to death certainly exists.

uhmmm... no. not in the US. and it has nothing at all to do with anything in the discussion of adults and the decisions they make as adults.

arock10 01-27-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19959409)
That's my point.

The Republican and Democratic parties have set up elections so that it's almost impossible for any candidate not working within their machine to even get on the ballot...much less get elected.

From everything I've seen in my lifetime...I'm firmly of the belief that the entire political game is designed to milk money from business and corporations.
As I said, if you are trying to play in the big leagues you MUST pay money to bureaucrats and politicians. On the local or national level.

Otherwise you are shut out.
That is our govt. doing that.

Oh I understand what you are saying. Just for me personally I see it was politicians and bureaucrats getting manipulated by the private interests, not the politicians and bureaucrats manipulating the private interests.

But when I say that I am not referring to the guy who makes $200k, this is referring to the extremely wealthy corporations/individuals.

I mean fucking sheldon adelson basically let newt gingrich continue his campaign well past the expiration date simply cause he has unlimited money to do it.

Barry-xlovecam 01-27-2014 10:20 AM

The references to kristallnacht he made are ludicrous, asinine and delusional.

Had he referenced the French First Republic that would have been apropos.



arock10 01-27-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959415)
uhmmm... no. not in the US. and it has nothing at all to do with anything in the discussion of adults and the decisions they make as adults.

Ah ok, seems the supreme court decided it was cruel and unusual in 2005 to execute minors. Sorry my last paper on the death penalty predated 2005 :)

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959424)
Ah ok, seems the supreme court decided it was cruel and unusual in 2005 to execute minors. Sorry my last paper on the death penalty predated 2005 :)

Haha.. no worries. :)

blackmonsters 01-27-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19959405)
The death penalty for minors (which doesn't exist Anymore in America) has nothing to do with adults and their life choices.


Fixed it for you.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...inney_1944.jpg

Born October 21, 1929
Alcolu, South Carolina
Died June 16, 1944 (aged 14)
Columbia, South Carolina, United States
Criminal penalty
Death by electric chair
Criminal status
Deceased
Conviction(s) First-degree murder


Only in 2005 did the government make a change :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roper_v._Simmons
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Roper v. Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005), was a decision in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that it is unconstitutional to impose capital punishment for crimes committed while under the age of 18.

pimpmaster9000 01-27-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959115)
if you are making money online you are dealing with the same economy that we all are but your living expenses are much much lower. its much cheaper to retire in the third world than the first.

most of my career online was under crippling sanctions , NO payment processing other than digital currency and western union to another country and then 6 hours by car every week...I could not legally possess hard currency (US$ Euro ect) in my country or open a bank account abroad...try spending most of your online career under such circumstances...


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959115)
as for your pack of cards theory, i can agree but shouldn't success be evaluated more based on where you started rather than where you end up? for someone who started in the gutter and ended up middle class, that is a success story for them but not to richie rich who may of started with connections, start up money and paid education. to him success is on a much higher level but also easier to achieve. look at someone privileged like george bush jr. ran multiple businesses into the ground, still got to live the good life and then became president. if he had been born into a one room shack in the swamps of louisiana he'd probably still be there.

on the other hand I was never poor, come from a banking family, private schools and foreign education but I never took a $ from my parents and made money with a 300$ zx spectrum pirating software and then producing it...stated at 15 and never got anything but my time wasted by my education other than the English language I must admit my english is above standard and this helped some...

I have done everything from smuggling cigarettes on donkey back across the border during the war to a relatively successful career in online dating and fitness products...cant say it was my education that made me what I am...never went to pick up my diploma...

as for middle class I can buy a huge mansion and sports cars I'm just a bike guy...do not care much about stuff...but I'm not middle class...

BlackCrayon 01-27-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19959388)
Is it your contention that he just woke up one day and randomly owned a roofing business?

Well its a competitive but pretty easy business to start. All you need is a couple years experience (if that) and some good guys who know what they are doing to hire, some capital to start (as all businesses need) and some equipment. Now being successful is a whole other thing. I've noticed two main kinds of roofing companies. Quality ones who rely on word of mouth advertising. They might not make the most money or have the most crews but they can get away with charging a bit more. Then there are the 'wholesalers' who hire all kinds of people, some are good, some are not. They rely on buying advertising wherever they can and are more affordable to hire but they also make more money at the end of the day since they have a number of crews working and new jobs every day and typically use lesser quality materials.

Sly 01-27-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959455)
Well its a competitive but pretty easy business to start. All you need is a couple years experience (if that) and some good guys who know what they are doing to hire, some capital to start (as all businesses need) and some equipment. Now being successful is a whole other thing. I've noticed two main kinds of roofing companies. Quality ones who rely on word of mouth advertising. They might not make the most money or have the most crews but they can get away with charging a bit more. Then there are the 'wholesalers' who hire all kinds of people, some are good, some are not. They rely on buying advertising wherever they can and are more affordable to hire but they also make more money at the end of the day since they have a number of crews working and new jobs every day and typically use lesser quality materials.

Sounds like a great, easy business, for some of those that are struggling to jump right into.

Hopefully some of the thread readers take a minute to stop bitching at each other and read your post. Within a few years, they could be living the easy life like 12clicks. Who knows, maybe they can even start a cross sale scam business?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-27-2014 10:44 AM

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Lies of Plutocracy: Exploding Five Myths that Dehumanize the Poor

If you believe that poverty is the domain of the comfortably poor, black, unemployed, unmotivated and uneducated among us, you have been sadly misled.

In 2010 the Census Bureau reported that 1 in 6 Americans (15 percent) are poor, a rate that was held steady in 2011.

Even these statistics disguise the real poverty numbers. A sampling of the existing poverty thresholds - boundaries separating the officially "poor" from the "non-poor" - are as follows: $11,704 for one-person households where the adult is under 65; $10,788 for those where the adult is over 65; $15,504 for households with one adult and a child; $18,106 for two adults and one child; $22,811 for two adults and two children; $30,056 for two adults and 4 children.

1. The Bootstrap Myth

Negative assertions about the poor are in part a product of the American bootstrap myth: Anyone who works hard enough in America will have a great life. And if you don't have a great life, then you lack the will, integrity or intelligence to succeed.

These kinds of concepts are what the late Australian philosopher Val Plumwood called "conceptual weapons." They work together to structure a system of thought that distorts, oversimplifies and ultimately fosters ignorance about, and shame amongst, oppressed groups of people.

2. The Poor Are Unemployed

The bootstrap myth works together with the stereotype that all poor people are unemployed. This thinking gives rise to the conclusion that the best way to address poverty is to get everyone a job. But these fallacious assertions gloss over the glaring fact that many poor people are working.

The Census reported that, in 2010, 7 percent of those aged 16 and older who worked some or all of the year were in poverty. And the Department of Agriculture reported that 30 percent of households receiving food assistance had earnings in 2010; 41 percent of food aid beneficiaries lived in a household with earnings from a job. Nearly a quarter - 21.8 percent - of non-elderly adult food stamp recipients were employed.

Of course none of this is surprising to those who know from experience what it means to work for $8 an hour. Working for 40 hours a week at that rate yields a $17,000 annual salary. Increasingly these poverty-level-wage jobs (retail, fast-food, etc.) are the most abundantly available to Americans. But with so many people out of work, even those jobs are hard to come by. And just as being poor is a source of shame for many Americans, so is being out of work, or working a low-end, thus devalued, job.

Who on earth doesn't know that many working people are poor precisely because of poverty-level wages from a job? In the January 23, 2012 Republican primary debate in Tampa, Florida, Mitt Romney touted his work creating "middle-income" jobs through his companies, like Sports Authority and Staples.

We helped start Staples, for instance. It employs 90,000 people. These are middle-income people. There are entry-level jobs, too. I'm proud of the fact that we helped people around the country - Bright Horizons children centers, the Sports Authority, Steel Dynamics, a new steel company. These employ people, middle-income people.

In a September interview, Mitt Romney responded to ABC News host George Stephanopoulos's question, "Is $100,000 middle income," with the reply: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 or less."

Putting these assertions together, one must ask: How many workers at Sports Authority and Staples are actually earning more than $100,000, let alone $200,000 to $250,000?

The reality, as so many retail workers know all too well, is that the majority of employees at these companies earn poverty-level wages, and only a relative few climb into the ranks of management and even begin to approach this mythical "middle-income" status.

Some will say Romney's ignorance about the poor is unique. Think again: On January 5, 2012, then-Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich blended racist and classist stereotyping, when he told an audience that he believes "the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps."

A few days earlier, on January 1, rival candidate, Rick Santorum had said that he did not "want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money. And provide for themselves and their families." Both of these men's statements contain the logical implication that those receiving food assistance are not working.

3. Poor (i.e. lazy, uneducated etc.) Equals Black

You'll notice that Gingrich and Santorum exclusively concentrate on the black community's reception of food assistance. This not-so-subtle message is that black people are getting by on white America's dime. But the fact of the matter is that about 1 in 7 Americans are receiving food assistance, and most of them are white: 35.7 percent of head of households receiving food aid are white, 22 percent are African-American, and 10 percent are Hispanic.

This shows how racist and classist ideologies work together. Black and other people of color continue to be used as a symbol of impoverishment and all of its wretchedness: lazy, selfish, crude, ignorant, animalistic and so forth. Ben Adler writes that:

Veteran South Carolina politicos readily agree, off the record of course, that Gingrich is intentionally tapping into this long vein of racial animosity. In the years since the Civil Rights Act, white South Carolinians may have largely ceased pining for the days of segregated water fountains. And anyway no politician can call for returning to them. But they often resent African-Americans and social welfare programs that they view through a racial lens.

When politicians start declaring that they don't want to give black people welfare checks, but rather want to put them to work, poor whites have a decision to make: Challenge the lie that poor people are all lazy and not working, or direct their anger and frustration with their own conditions, all of the shame it brings them, at black people. Too often the latter is chosen.

This is "horizontal hostility," when oppressed groups turn on other disadvantaged groups rather than address the root causes of inequality. But these interlocking systems of inequality don't just hurt people of color. They also undermine the interests of poor conservative whites. When dominant culture promotes stereotypes that degrade the poor, it creates a rush to the exits of self-identifying as poor. This "internalized oppression" prevents the unification of the poor to realize common claims to dignity despite economic impoverishment.

By identifying poverty with people of color, the powerful manipulate those poor whites who are either outright racists or who unconsciously fear identification with the stereotyped character of non-whites.

Though aimed at people of color, the thinking that suggests the poor lack respectable work ethic and virtuous moral character becomes a conceptual lever that functions to induce shame that makes the poor easier to manipulate. This is why dominant culture works so hard to identify scapegoats (black people, undocumented workers, feminists, LGBTQ folks) to channel anger and self-hatred.
Cont'd...

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ADG

TheSquealer 01-27-2014 10:44 AM

Every business is "easy" in the mind of someone who has never started a business and made it successful.

Every boss is an incompetent asshole who knows nothing and does nothing and is just "lucky" in the mind of someone who will never be more than an employee.

12clicks 01-27-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19959391)
I'm sorry you had to work hard for 15 years doing two jobs. Clearly you should've been smarter at your approach to things.

My work ethic is why I made millions long after my competitors packed it in.
Your work ethic has you whining about your betters.

The difference between the successful and you has never been more clear.

12clicks 01-27-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19959283)
I apologize for not knowing your life story. I only know (some) of what you have done online. I doubt being a roofer for 15 had anything to do with your success online.

thats why you're not successful.
Being a roofer had EVERYTHING to do with my success online.
When I discovered that I could tap on a keyboard to make money instead of busting my ass, I worked my ass off online and built a multimillion dollar business.

When YOU discovered that you could tap on a keyboard to make money, you spent years being happy just making beer money.


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