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dyna mo 02-21-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19991010)
Idiot. Once again: these are just civilian clowns what has no relation to police not to Putin. They were arrested and fined for that.

Now compare it with the video I posted above where a US cop shoots dead (note he continued firing at a laying body) just for an intention to use a crowbar. How could you blame Ukrainian police for using weapon against armed motherfuckers?

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/09/09b6...a4e7d7f438.jpg

just a punk 02-21-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19991011)
Putin has taught you how to love the motherland.

You are definitely have some mental disease, man. You are too obsessed with him. Please visit a doctor :2 cents:

dyna mo 02-21-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19991016)
You are definitely have some mental disease, man. You are too obsessed with him. Please visit a doctor :2 cents:

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima....jpeg?49fa68bf

just a punk 02-21-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19991027)

Are you masturbating right now or do you imagine Рutin's old and stinky ass when you having sex with your wife? Maybe that horse is also a part of your sexual dreams? Just curious...

dyna mo 02-21-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19991035)
Are you masturbating right now or do you imagine Рutin's old and stinky ass when you having sex with your wife? Maybe that horse is also a part of your sexual dreams? Just curious...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/c5d36e464...epio1_1280.jpg

The Porn Nerd 02-21-2014 10:47 AM

Russia sure be PUTIN the hurt on protesters eh?

Oh I make myself laugh and laugh....

Sid70 02-21-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19991013)
I know that you are Russian. But you should to use a capital "R" in that word. Just a friendly hint ;)

P.S. It seems you are deadly drunk again, my dear pet.

I did that intentionally, "russian" is written like that in my books since I found you existed.

Sid70 02-21-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19991035)
Are you masturbating right now or do you imagine Рutin's old and stinky ass when you having sex with your wife? Maybe that horse is also a part of your sexual dreams? Just curious...


http://thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpr...fe-beating.jpg

One in four families in the Russian federation experience domestic violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesti...ence_in_Russia

Russians never know shit that's going on in their home. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just a punk 02-21-2014 11:03 AM

Okey then :)

just a punk 02-21-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19991037)

I've guessed that was a real reason :winkwink:

dyna mo 02-21-2014 11:34 AM

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crockett 02-21-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19990927)
2crockett: This is how it works in the USA (no Molotov cocktails, no guns, no burning officers, no broken heads, embossed eyes etc, just a lonely guy with a crowbar against two cops and their trained dog):


I'm not going to get in a pissing match as to what country does what. US cops in some places are fucking dicks and some of them should be beaten to a inch of their lives if not further for the stuff they do while taking a oath to protect and serve.

However we are talking about riots in Ukraine not the US. It's very clear that the govt has sanctioned killing of protesters in Ukraine. It's also very clear that the govt is at the verge of losing control, because no free country would condone actively shooting at protesters with lethal bullets.

See in the US we had OWS and in many areas is got a bit out of hand. The cops might of beat some people up and roughed them up, but they never pulled out M16's and sniper rifles to start killing off protestors. They blocked the protestors off and used force to shut down the protests in many areas and not a single person was killed. Many were likely beaten up and roughed up but they all lived.

There was 2 or 3 deaths during all of OWS and none were due to police action, they were deaths from with in the protest areas. One was in a tent and was found dead. None were shot to death by the police like they are in Ukraine..

klinton 02-21-2014 01:34 PM

ok, but what if protesters were armed and started to storm governement buildings ? (like it was in kiev)
;-) how would that end in USA ? :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19991232)
See in the US we had OWS and in many areas is got a bit out of hand. The cops might of beat some people up and roughed them up, but they never pulled out M16's and sniper rifles to start killing off protestors. They blocked the protestors off and used force to shut down the protests in many areas and not a single person was killed. Many were likely beaten up and roughed up but they all lived.

There was 2 or 3 deaths during all of OWS and none were due to police action, they were deaths from with in the protest areas. One was in a tent and was found dead. None were shot to death by the police like they are in Ukraine..


Kolargol 02-21-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19991239)
ok, but what if protesters were armed and started to storm governement buildings ? (like it was in kiev)
;-) how would that end in USA ? :)

You think Obama would send snipers with orders to kill civilians and aim at head&neck?

klinton 02-21-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19991243)
You think Obama would send snipers with orders to kill civilians and aim at head&neck?

if they would start to storm gov buildings, start shooting at police and throw molotov cocktails, i dont see any other option ?

Obama ? like who ? "peace nobel winner" or slave to corporations and military interests ?

every goverment is the same, man ;]

brassmonkey 02-21-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19990927)
2crockett: This is how it works in the USA (no Molotov cocktails, no guns, no burning officers, no broken heads, embossed eyes etc, just a lonely guy with a crowbar against two cops and their trained dog):


not a protest :disgust

klinton 02-21-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19991243)
You think Obama would send snipers with orders to kill civilians and aim at head&neck?

btw., dod you saw those "civilians" ? funny thing that they were armed.... and funny thing that they started to storm gov buildings....

you know, now UK considers David Miranda, that gay from Brazil, as terrorist... so what do you think, how the US gover. would consider guys throwing molotov cocktails and shooting at police ?

deltav 02-21-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19991239)
ok, but what if protesters were armed and started to storm governement buildings ? (like it was in kiev)
;-) how would that end in USA ? :)

The other thing to consider - what if a big part of the Occupy movement was driven by neo-Nazis and right-wing militia groups as is the case in Kyiv? I imagine the crackdown would have been far worse and they'd lose what sympathy they had in the American media.

My point is, who knows what would happen in any given country? On this board we just have people being childish and waving their nationalist dicks around, cherry picking photos & "facts" that suit their little agenda. People like CyberSEO remind me of some right-wing Americans I know, they love to flood any discussion with selective information confirming that the good ol USA is the chosen land and anything that questions this is like water off a duck's back. They're just incapable of absorbing that possibility. Though in part he's just trolling.

The world is complicated, people are complicated, I just hope this latest truce can move forward and the situation stabilizes.

klinton 02-21-2014 01:47 PM

please, dont mistake me with cyberseo. that guy is unique element in nature :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19991254)
The other thing to consider - what if a big part of the Occupy movement was driven by neo-Nazis and right-wing militia groups as is the case in Kyiv? I imagine the crackdown would have been far worse and they'd lose what sympathy they had in the American media.

My point is, who knows what would happen in any given country? On this board we just have people being childish and waving their nationalist dicks around, cherry picking photos & "facts" that suit their little agenda. People like CyberSEO remind me of some right-wing Americans I know, they love to flood any discussion with selective information confirming that the good ol USA is the chosen land and anything that questions this is like water off a duck's back. They're just incapable of absorbing that possibility. Though in part he's just trolling.

The world is complicated, people are complicated, I just hope this latest truce can move forward and the situation stabilizes.


dyna mo 02-21-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19991257)
please, dont mistake me with cyberseo. that guy is unique element in nature :1orglaugh

I logged in specifically to

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul&John 02-21-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19991257)
please, dont mistake me with cyberseo. that guy is unique element in nature :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 02-21-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19991254)
The other thing to consider - what if a big part of the Occupy movement was driven by neo-Nazis and right-wing militia groups as is the case in Kyiv? I imagine the crackdown would have been far worse and they'd lose what sympathy they had in the American media.

My point is, who knows what would happen in any given country? On this board we just have people being childish and waving their nationalist dicks around, cherry picking photos & "facts" that suit their little agenda. People like CyberSEO remind me of some right-wing Americans I know, they love to flood any discussion with selective information confirming that the good ol USA is the chosen land and anything that questions this is like water off a duck's back. They're just incapable of absorbing that possibility. Though in part he's just trolling.

The world is complicated, people are complicated, I just hope this latest truce can move forward and the situation stabilizes.

you hear the rumour about the polish dudes statement? 'accept this or you're all dead'

pretty brutal

Paul&John 02-21-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19991292)
you hear the rumour about the polish dudes statement? 'accept this or you're all dead'

pretty brutal

its not a rumour and it was a friendly reminder that they won't get a better deal, so better take it :)
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-...l-all-be-dead/

SomeCreep 02-21-2014 02:33 PM

These things happen. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last. Best to not worry about it.

deltav 02-21-2014 02:49 PM

Yeah, the Polish quote wasn't a rumor - he was just saying what everyone expected.

It was a given the government needed to bring in the army, Berkut & co wasn't up to the task. Really in my mind the main options were either the Ukrainian troops swoop down and end things - they aren't some podunk half-assed force like we see in some 3rd world places, it's a real army - with a big loss of civilian life. Or.... some sympathetic elements of the army refuse and we get a very dangerous situation where civil war becomes a possibility. And then maybe Russia thinks about getting involved. I'm not really sure how cohesive Ukraine's army is far as regional loyalties go, so didn't know if the second was really likely, who knows. Either way a lot more people die.

So I was amazed to see they reached a settlement today. It's not often you see both sides stand down, they both realized they had everything to lose going forward but that doesn't always stop people when events get momentum. In a way I compare it to last year when it seemed certain the USA was going to attack Syria (man that would have been stupid), yet at the last minute Obama has a moment of sanity and backs off.

brassmonkey 02-21-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 19991313)
These things happen. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last. Best to not worry about it.

lots of government betrayal :disgust can't wait till it hits one of the superpower countries :2 cents: then we will have some fun

_Richard_ 02-21-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19991341)
Yeah, the Polish quote wasn't a rumor - he was just saying what everyone expected.

It was a given the government needed to bring in the army, Berkut & co wasn't up to the task. Really in my mind the main options were either the Ukrainian troops swoop down and end things - they aren't some podunk half-assed force like we see in some 3rd world places, it's a real army - with a big loss of civilian life. Or.... some sympathetic elements of the army refuse and we get a very dangerous situation where civil war becomes a possibility. And then maybe Russia thinks about getting involved. I'm not really sure how cohesive Ukraine's army is far as regional loyalties go, so didn't know if the second was really likely, who knows. Either way a lot more people die.

So I was amazed to see they reached a settlement today. It's not often you see both sides stand down, they both realized they had everything to lose going forward but that doesn't always stop people when events get momentum. In a way I compare it to last year when it seemed certain the USA was going to attack Syria (man that would have been stupid), yet at the last minute Obama has a moment of sanity and backs off.

wasn't there, and haven't had time to verify the articles that were around.

i was surprised too.. guy has balls of steel, if half of what i have heard is correct

just a punk 02-22-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19991239)
ok, but what if protesters were armed and started to storm governement buildings ? (like it was in kiev)
;-) how would that end in USA ?

The US government will left the buildings, Obama will resign. The US police and SWAT will get their your knees and beg for forgiveness. I see exactly like that. Does somebody can even imagine such a nonce like the US police shooting at armed crowd which throws at them the Molotov cocktails and storming government buildings (Capitol, White House, etc)? Personally I can't. Now way!

just a punk 02-22-2014 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19991243)
You think Obama would send snipers with orders to kill civilians and aim at head&neck?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...House_roof.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3133/3...a6bd9b819c.jpg

http://www.fabiendjabar.com/p/wp-con...4/DSC_1183.jpg

Try to storm/burn White House as the Ukrainian protesters did to almost whole government quarter in Kiev, then get back and tell us (if you will stay alive of course) :winkwink:

Some pics for you:

http://polemika.com.ua/images/2014-0...ceaam7g3_1.jpg

http://cdn3.img22.ria.ru/images/99149/47/991494754.jpg

http://static.vz.ua/image/big/1390727298.jpg

http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/02/...e99dcf7024.jpg

http://www.snob.ru/i/indoc/2b/rubric...ent_494628.jpg

winter_ 02-22-2014 04:14 AM

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Kolargol 02-22-2014 04:30 AM

Its really good that sides came to agreement to stop violence. I hope it will last.

klinton 02-22-2014 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19991809)
Its really good that sides came to agreement to stop violence. I hope it will last.

yes...they will elect another wonder goverment, like they did during Orange revolution...did anyone heard about Juschenko ;-) ?

anyone, good luck to Ukraine people, whatever it means


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