2crockett: This is how it works in the USA (no Molotov cocktails, no guns, no burning officers, no broken heads, embossed eyes etc, just a lonely guy with a crowbar against two cops and their trained dog):

Damn, these threads are crazy!!

anyway, its very funny when i hear Obama about spreading democracy etc etc... talking shit to Yanukovicz and Russia...How the USA would fell if Russia would start talking about military intervention in Mexico, due to some riots going on there ? How the US would feel if Russia would support one of Mexico's political parties ? You got perfect example on that in Cuba...it was over 50 years ago, and not so much changed from that time....people get fucked from USA sanctions...and now they are surprised that Putin dont want to "borrow" money to Ukraine anymore...

it is internal issue of Ukraine now, and I hope all will be resolved...unless it is not too late

one tribe has the money, the other doesn't... tribes aren't an issue? ever hear of the Middle East, Asia, India, Pakistan etc... the only reason the 'west' functions at the high level it does is because there is a level of 'societal trust' not present in 'tribes' that function on 'familial trust' but don't worry, the libs are breaking their asses to fill the west with tribal factions that refuse to get along with anyone else... :thumbsup

I have no idea what you are going on about. You don't either.

care to explain it a little more ? ;-)

Idiot. Once again: these are just civilian clowns what have no relation to police nor to Putin. They were arrested and fined for that.

Now compare it with the video I posted above where a US cop shoots dead (note he continued firing at a laying body) just for an intention to use a crowbar. How could you blame Ukrainian police for using weapon against armed motherfuckers?

Putin has taught you how to love the motherland.

I know that you are Russian. But you should to use a capital "R" in that word. Just a friendly hint ;)

P.S. It seems you are deadly drunk again, my dear pet.

You are definitely have some mental disease, man. You are too obsessed with him. Please visit a doctor :2 cents:

Are you masturbating right now or do you imagine Рutin's old and stinky ass when you having sex with your wife? Maybe that horse is also a part of your sexual dreams? Just curious...

Russia sure be PUTIN the hurt on protesters eh?

Oh I make myself laugh and laugh....

I did that intentionally, "russian" is written like that in my books since I found you existed.

http://thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpr...fe-beating.jpg

One in four families in the Russian federation experience domestic violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesti...ence_in_Russia

Russians never know shit that's going on in their home. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Okey then :)

I've guessed that was a real reason :winkwink:

I'm not going to get in a pissing match as to what country does what. US cops in some places are fucking dicks and some of them should be beaten to a inch of their lives if not further for the stuff they do while taking a oath to protect and serve.

However we are talking about riots in Ukraine not the US. It's very clear that the govt has sanctioned killing of protesters in Ukraine. It's also very clear that the govt is at the verge of losing control, because no free country would condone actively shooting at protesters with lethal bullets.

See in the US we had OWS and in many areas is got a bit out of hand. The cops might of beat some people up and roughed them up, but they never pulled out M16's and sniper rifles to start killing off protestors. They blocked the protestors off and used force to shut down the protests in many areas and not a single person was killed. Many were likely beaten up and roughed up but they all lived.

There was 2 or 3 deaths during all of OWS and none were due to police action, they were deaths from with in the protest areas. One was in a tent and was found dead. None were shot to death by the police like they are in Ukraine..

ok, but what if protesters were armed and started to storm governement buildings ? (like it was in kiev)
;-) how would that end in USA ? :)

You think Obama would send snipers with orders to kill civilians and aim at head&neck?

if they would start to storm gov buildings, start shooting at police and throw molotov cocktails, i dont see any other option ?

Obama ? like who ? "peace nobel winner" or slave to corporations and military interests ?

every goverment is the same, man ;]

not a protest :disgust

btw., dod you saw those "civilians" ? funny thing that they were armed.... and funny thing that they started to storm gov buildings....

you know, now UK considers David Miranda, that gay from Brazil, as terrorist... so what do you think, how the US gover. would consider guys throwing molotov cocktails and shooting at police ?

The other thing to consider - what if a big part of the Occupy movement was driven by neo-Nazis and right-wing militia groups as is the case in Kyiv? I imagine the crackdown would have been far worse and they'd lose what sympathy they had in the American media.

My point is, who knows what would happen in any given country? On this board we just have people being childish and waving their nationalist dicks around, cherry picking photos & "facts" that suit their little agenda. People like CyberSEO remind me of some right-wing Americans I know, they love to flood any discussion with selective information confirming that the good ol USA is the chosen land and anything that questions this is like water off a duck's back. They're just incapable of absorbing that possibility. Though in part he's just trolling.

The world is complicated, people are complicated, I just hope this latest truce can move forward and the situation stabilizes.

please, dont mistake me with cyberseo. that guy is unique element in nature :1orglaugh

I logged in specifically to

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you hear the rumour about the polish dudes statement? 'accept this or you're all dead'

pretty brutal

its not a rumour and it was a friendly reminder that they won't get a better deal, so better take it :)
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-...l-all-be-dead/

These things happen. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last. Best to not worry about it.

Yeah, the Polish quote wasn't a rumor - he was just saying what everyone expected.

It was a given the government needed to bring in the army, Berkut & co wasn't up to the task. Really in my mind the main options were either the Ukrainian troops swoop down and end things - they aren't some podunk half-assed force like we see in some 3rd world places, it's a real army - with a big loss of civilian life. Or.... some sympathetic elements of the army refuse and we get a very dangerous situation where civil war becomes a possibility. And then maybe Russia thinks about getting involved. I'm not really sure how cohesive Ukraine's army is far as regional loyalties go, so didn't know if the second was really likely, who knows. Either way a lot more people die.

So I was amazed to see they reached a settlement today. It's not often you see both sides stand down, they both realized they had everything to lose going forward but that doesn't always stop people when events get momentum. In a way I compare it to last year when it seemed certain the USA was going to attack Syria (man that would have been stupid), yet at the last minute Obama has a moment of sanity and backs off.

lots of government betrayal :disgust can't wait till it hits one of the superpower countries :2 cents: then we will have some fun

wasn't there, and haven't had time to verify the articles that were around.

i was surprised too.. guy has balls of steel, if half of what i have heard is correct

The US government will left the buildings, Obama will resign. The US police and SWAT will get their your knees and beg for forgiveness. I see exactly like that. Does somebody can even imagine such a nonce like the US police shooting at armed crowd which throws at them the Molotov cocktails and storming government buildings (Capitol, White House, etc)? Personally I can't. Now way!

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Try to storm/burn White House as the Ukrainian protesters did to almost whole government quarter in Kiev, then get back and tell us (if you will stay alive of course) :winkwink:

Some pics for you:

http://polemika.com.ua/images/2014-0...ceaam7g3_1.jpg

http://cdn3.img22.ria.ru/images/99149/47/991494754.jpg

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