I did not meant that the home-producers are doing money with either recorded clip or live cams. Most do this for free simply because drunk and/or bored at home. These wanna-be stars wrongly think they will make money, even if they will not, still they will produce and give away their content for a while before to figure they're doing it for free.

Think at facebook: no one is paid to write on facebook, still facebook owner is billionaire. Now think tubes and cam sites: no one is paid to fill tubes and cam sites with content, still (big) tubes and (big) cam sites owners are millionaire. In part due to advertisers who wrongly think they will make money by put their banners on tubes (via exoclicks or so) even if they will not, still they buy until figure - there's always a new genius who will buy their first adverts in a tube site when another one ended funds in loss.

My point it is simply that these home-people are so many to fill tubes and free cam sites 24/7, 365 days a year, with always new content. Such content is 99% bad, but the 1% it is still so much, enough to be more anyone can browse in a day.

I mean, even if trying for a week then giving up, a same or higher number of naked people pops up as a replacement of previously ones, even if no one of them made or will make a cent ever for the nudity and hardcore action depictions they disseminated on the net.

As you said, escorting it is still bringing money (but not if you're in Greece or 3rd world really) and a totally different business. Still escort sites it can be rethinked in many ways, for example look at travelgirls.com , such site is doing very well and already lots of clones are out.

Face book is pure shit.
There is absolutely nothing that Facebook has that is new, different or even remotely origional. Everything from instant messengers to entire the entire concept of viritual friends... Literally it was/is all available on the net in various other forms. All Facebook is.. is the Walmart of the Interent. (ie: one stop.. find it all here surfing)

Facebook benefited from an abnormally exorbitant amount of media hype. And the owner lies like a snake about its numbers. If you own preferred stock in facebook you can get better access to the data about the site and see the absolute masterpiece of double talk the company publishes when confronted with questions about its revenus, user base, etc.

For example :
How many accounts are abanonded? (2 paragraphs that stop short of saying they are not keeping track)

Their primary revenu is also not from advertising and never has been. There is a lot of undisclosed sources that appear to point to a multitude of private contracts. In my opinion facebook's revenu is generated from the sale of personal data, data mining technologies and its stock.

But back to content debate,
Facebook's acquisitions of Instagram, snapchat, etc are nothing more than a fight for content. The average facebook memeber abanadons their account after 6 weeks and produces lilttle or no content except the reposting of the stupid photos and comments you find all over the net. In fact when you talk to any brooker that specializes in technology investements they will tell you that when dig below the surface of Facebook... It generates less usuable content than Myspace did with all the Independant Music Bands.

As more and more people abandon their computers for ease and practicality of portable devices. More and more pure shit will be uploaded to the tubes and it will just start getting to the point where more and more people will say "why bother searching?"

From a porn industry point of view when the majority of people access the net using mobil gadgets the average surfer will eventually be the punter that just wants to jerk off in under 5 minutes and go on with his day.

And that type of guy has never been our target market. He will never pay and there is no chance of selling him anything regardless of how good or original we make a video.

I agree with you there will be 1 good content every 10000 "pure shit". If that was mixed randomly, it woud be not worth searching. However, content it is not presented randomly, there is ranking by votes, by views etc., this is like camscore in myfreecams for cams.

For example let's take deviantart.com , a social site for (mostly young) artists, where all th econtent is user-generated. Of course most it is teenager rubbish productions. However you can select to show content by popularity, for ex photography section by popularity:

http://www.deviantart.com/photography/?order=9

I see some nice things.

And I just spent five minutes clicking on the photos and found that many if not most are stolen and not the work of amateurs. Making it basically a defacto pinterest.

Social media and user generated content does not foster creativity.

They promote theft and the recycling of content found already all over the Internet. Artists are not able to profit from their creations and anyone with talent posts a handful of examples of their work and quickly discover that they would be better off doing chalk drawings on the sidewalk with a tin cup looking for handouts.

Therefore 100% real user generated content is 97% pure shit. It is the idiot that updates his status every time he goes to the toilet, the dumb broad that shoves a tampon in her mouth, the stupid 20 year old male that posts photos of his car, the quasi-pedophiles grabbing videos of hairless twat barely legals, the moron that swears Obama is a shape changing lizard born in Kenya, uneducated trailer park trash that think Ray Kurzweil is going to gift them with immortality, guys who troll craigslist looking for pics.. etc... etc.... etc.. etc

And the voting on what is or is not popular is also bullshit.

The "herd" mentality is rampant to the point of being a new kind of social disease. Try posting on Reddit about the possibility of better controls on porn to protect children. Watch how literally everyone will scream *freedom of speech* and then tell you to shut the fuck up. Or if a woman posts a picture of her shoving a parking cone up her ass she will get a ton of hits and people loving it but even if a professional photographer took a picture of her exiting a church wearing a nice conservative dress won't even get a handful of hits and stands a good chance of being ridiculed because of the church in the background. I learned long time ago that if you post a video on youtube and want people to look at it... Post a thumbnail of a woman in a thong bikini otherwise it will be 30 views in 3 years.

Community standards are also bullshit

Puppy toss is banned from youtube in seconds but thousands of videos of torture, crucifictions, etc remain. A well made hollywood movie will sit until someone DMCA's it down but somone doing a documentary on the real estate fraud and scams of Jacque Fresco disappears in 24hours.

No my friend your problem is you caught up in the user tailored content trap,

You are not getting fed the big picture from your research efforts. Therefore I will put forward that when you consider the massive job losses the Internet causes, the huge national security problems it creates for governments and quite often public embarassements and scandals for various officals... It is not hard to see why so many politicians are subtlety pulling their support from the net based companies. Then add in that general public is now starting to get tired of the petty squabbles, no-life trolls, their 10 year old child constantly being exposed to tits and ass, etc.. etc.. etc...

It does not take an Einstien to figure out that mobil gadgets are the new trend and it will be the apps that allow them to access maps, restuarant locations and menus, music, twitter/snapchat, etc. Web 2.0 with its traditional websites are dying fast.

Lame comparison... people NEED food, they NEED cloths... people don't NEED porn... so there's a huge difference there...

Furthermore, the porn industry can't advertise on the main stream media, so their advertising budget is spent differently: giving away SOME of it's content for free... it's all a matter of marketing and getting your name/product out there. It's gone too far though...

Fashion spends HUGE amounts of money giving clothing away to the right people! So you're wrong that clothes aren't being given away. Just not to you. 'cause GIVING you clothes doesn't make you any more addicted to them. Giving your favorite stars clothes and you will go for that brand. That's how it works... Do not compare pears with apples please... it doesn't make sense...

Damn !! I really miss 2005 !!!

Looks like some nice media placement from http://therubpr.com. :pimp

Nice work Erika! :thumbsup:thumbsup

Well done by Nightline - usually exposes on our industry are just salacious segments to boost viewership and don't actually expose anything. This went indepth and got to the heart of the matter.

IMO they already have most of the traffic - a piece like this may boost it but anyone who views porn online already goes to their sites/

AL looks great. Rockstar.

AL has been 19 longer than Lia19, ftw. I remember her humble start on VS.

Please expand. I'm interested in reading about the full history and everything that went down. The 'rise and fall from power' sounds like a great story. :thumbsup

lol indeed, according to Xbiz:
years of laziness and doing nothing against piracy pushed the problem beyond a tipping point I fear and created a whole generation of users who didn't need to pay for full member area content

btw so the US porn industry is down to 35% of what it was, then take into account inflation and the fact that the user base for porn has just kept growing, that means it's actually down 75% (at least)

There is no chance for porn to go down... :) Relax... :)