Do you personally know any Crimean citizen who is not happy joining Russia? I know many Crimeans. They never felt themselves as Ukrainian citizens. That's just FYI :2 cents:

Maybe because... you are a looser? :winkwink:

Sorry to disappoint you but World Bank is much more trustful source than Wikipedia :winkwink:

Bulgaria: 6,977 and down.
Hungary: 12,560 and down.
Poland: 12,710 and down.
Russian Federation: 14,037 and up.

Nuf said :pimp

Massive population is always a negative factor for economics. If Russian population was comparable with say Canadian one, the GDP per capita would be much higher. The one must not be a rocket scientist to understand it.

As about Czech Republic. Yes, right now its GDP per capita = 18,690 which is higher than in Russia, but it's seriously down, so just wait for a few years and compare again :winkwink:

you just saved me time to write something what should be obvious. Also, extreme size of country with 11 time zones is also a factor ( different cultures and religions that need to be controlled,managed, satisfied)

Plus our cold weather. We can't live in cardboard houses like most Americans do. The country spends a lot on heating and on transportation and on infrastructure support. Russia is very huge and you somehow need to transport people, goods, food, gas, electricity etc through the whole territory. As I said already, a weather here is not a fun. In continental Russia the temperature may fluctuate from -40C (winter) to +40C (summer). Even the road surface can't withstand this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

And the list of highly developed countries now include Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Latvia and all former communist countries, but the last two that joined the EU. Russia is nowhere to be found on that list, go figure.

The Ukrainian national guards have got a right to kill those who denied to shoot at civilians. According to various sources (e.g. http://strategia-22.livejournal.com/11369.html), 10 troops of the Ukrainian internal forces were executed by the national guards :disgust

In fact, the GDP per capita (PPP) is what gives you the most accurate way of comparison. You don't have to take my word for it, Google it if you want to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

Feel free to check out the numbsrs.

Once again: World Bank is a reliable source. Wikipedia - is not. Trust to the numbers (GDP per capita is the best measure) but not to politically engaged articles like you posted above. All these ranks are bullshit. E.g. the USA is a developed country but there is no free higher education nor free medicine. Don't know about you, but I would prefer to live in my developing country and pay only 6% tax for all, rather than there.

P.S. You haven't answered to my question. What's your national origin (the country you were born and got a citizenship in) and where do you live now? Answer to my question please to make it clear.

Thank you in advance!

About 100 Ukrainian soldiers in Lugansk have surrendered to military militia of Lugansk (video): http://lifenews.ru/news/134029

You can call it as you want, but I see a real civil war in the Ukraine - the consequences of the Maydan revolution which was heated and backed up by the USA and EU :2 cents:

Yes, GDP per capita, PPP. Wikipedia data is pulled from IMF, World Bank, and CIA. The numbers differ, but paint similar picture.

Which is why you use HDI (or even better the HDI adjusted for inequality) to measure the quality of life - it takes into account GDP per capita, education, life expectancy, etc.

And here you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

Bulgarian living in Bulgaria

dont bother arguing with cyberseo on economic issues, he lives in his Moscow bubble and thinks that whole Russia is like Moscow :-)
another easy example - look how the typical small village looks like in Switzerland, Germany, Czech, Poland and look how it looks like in Ukraine, Russia or Georgia.....

Зачем приписывать хорошему человеку такие гнусные слова? Ты Гоголем гордится должен, а ты его в говно макаешь.

The whole picture can be seen in the official report of World Bank. Anyways, there are other factors beside the numbers. Let me show you another example. As far as you nay know, Moscow is one of the most expensive places in the World. Do you seriously think that such an city can be located in a poor country (say Botswana, Nigеria, Bangladesh, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Bulgaria, Indonesia or Colombia) ? How do you think all those "poor" can afford living there? Sometimes its good to use a simple logic.

So right now you are physically located in Bulgaria. Did I get it right?

I live in Moscow not too long, actually. So I know what I'm talking about.

Just FYI: there are no villages in Russia. They all are dead. The consequences of industrialization.

If there was no question about how they would vote, then why not allow international third party observers in? Why not, because Russia rigged the vote, as what was shown when the real numbers were released. If there was nothing to hide, then why hide?

Let me guess poor innocent Russia was just caught in the middle...l

I have no idea. Hope you know it better ;)

Actually they did.

Educate yourself: http://digitaljournal.com/news/polit...article/377812

Why Russia? Why not the USA or Uganda? Do you have any proof? Share with us please.

P.S. You didn't answered to my question. How many Crimeans do you know personally?

Here's another link that shows you the HDI and the inequality-adjusted HDI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Scroll down to Inequality-adjusted HDI and you will see just how "poor" Bulgaria makes it to the top 36 and Russia is nowhere to be found.

I don't have any illusions as to how Bulgaria compares to the rest of the EU, but you clearly refuse to see where Russia is. And BTW, I do have a degree in Economics, can't say that I remember all that much, but at least I remember the basics.

This is getting weird ;)


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Nope at all. I just had a feeling you don't live in Bulgaria right now.

Moved back from South Africa about eight years ago.

Can't understand shit, cap.

Please, could you post 5 screenshots of Wikipedia in each thread?

Sure thing. Can I post videos too? Pleeeeeeease



Какая страна, такая и армия https://www.master-x.com/template/im...s/facepalm.gif

Watch As Ukraine Helicopter With 14 Troops On Board Is Shot Down

No, you're doing fine with GIFs already, videos is for pussies.

such thinking is not valid, as for example: Luanda in Angola is expensive, Port au Prince in Haiti is expensive if you want to have running water, electricity and decent(normal) food..and many more examples to come ;-)
I'm not comparing Russia to these countries, simple proving that such logic doesnt work :-)

Luanda, Angola or Haiti are not places where big companies want to invest or countries that can influence global changes depending on their choices. Prices there are coming from lack of basic things like infrastructure, while in Moscow, it is just about demand and offer.

Money used to buy properties and land in Europe is coming from Russia (from London to Montenegro), not from Angola or Haiti.

We all know reaction from big companies (for example Siemens) after "sanctions" for Russia and EU reaction after gas agreement with Chinese.

it doesnt change the fact that they are ridiculously expensive shitholes, and yes, in Angola and, lets say Nigeria, many western companies invest, they send expats to work in there, and their goverments just steal from average citizens :)
so the logic of thinking = if city is expensive, country must to be rich like its citizens - it is simply not valid and it doesnt work :)

His logic is much better then comparing countries you used to prove your point. Countries you used as example are expensive form different reasons ,and not because of market and services. (these are undeveloped countries with uneducated population and probably not market based economies)

Of course companies are investing everywhere, they will always do that even on Mars or swamp if there is profit, but comparing Nigeria with Russia is completely wrong. Even with 168 millions of people Nigeria (that lots of oil ) have GDP of 262 billion while Russia have: $2.118 trillion with 20 millions people less.

[QUOTE=femdomdestiny;20104325]Luanda, Angola or Haiti are not places where big companies want to invest or countries that can influence global changes depending on their choices. Prices there are coming from lack of basic things like infrastructure, while in Moscow, it is just about demand and offer.

Money used to buy properties and land in Europe is coming from Russia (from London to Montenegro), not from Angola or Haiti.
/QUOTE]

Wrong.

what is this about? they dropped guns and moved to anti nazi side, or what? have they been defeated or did this by their own will?

I'm sorry, but I prefer Berlin than Moscow..Cheaper, less smog, less traffic, once again - cheaper, more bicycles, happy not agressive people, way better customer service, avergae citizen = richer than average Russian, 80 milions in country (2 times less than in Russia), yet GDP few times bigger...how they do that ? :-)

Masrhall plan for a start? Lack of population after WW2 that was so bad that Germany started to import workforce from around the globe. US support and supervision for decades and , of course, traditional German discipline. ( don't forget that they didn't have expenses for army for decades because of US di that for them so no costs of maintaining or investing in development)

it was rhetorical question... the main point is = the fact that something (or some city) is expensive doesnt mean that it should be and it doesnt mean that being expensive makes it really valuable :-)

Nope. These are soldiers of so-called regular Ukrainian "army". They dropped their weapon and surrendered to their own moms, dads and "ruskie terrorists". No j/k.