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NewOldPlayer 06-25-2014 02:24 PM

All new manufacturing giants and jobs are all setting up shop in China.

China is a land rush for new slaves working at slave wages. American's can't compete.

When America was first set up, WE were the new land rush for new businesses because we had all the slaves. Sad, but true. We got so big, we told Britain to fuck off.

Now, China has got the goods. Cheap slave labor. The new business land rush is moving to China. Follow the slaves to follow the money.

In 200 years, USA will be the new Mexico. America will have 2 classes only, The extreme rich, and the extreme poor.

Blame ourselves for allowing our government to be controlled by corporations and allowing our money and jobs to be outsourced over seas. When the supreme court voted and made it legal for corporations to 'donate' money to politicians thru super pacs, the corporations took control of our government by the balls. It's a free for all.

We are no longer in control of our country. Corporations run the show. Your "vote" for the next president is something they let us do, so we feel that we are still in control and we live in a democracy. The older you get, the more you will realize how meaningless it is to vote. 100% meaningless.

It doesn't matter who sits in the presidents seat. The national debt keeps going higher and higher and jobs and corps are all bailing out moving to China. This is a simple evolution that can not be stopped. It will never stop.

The funny thing is, China is a communist nation. We seem to forget that while looking at profits.

After we move the remaining large corporation bases over to China, and America finally goes bankrupt because we can't borrow any more money to cover our social security debts, China can overthrow America by seizing all American manufacturing businesses on Chinese soil. China doesn't have to go to war with America to take it over. China will simply absorb all our major businesses and control America. It's a long slow process but the Chinese are brilliant with long term goals. Americans only think about the next 15 years, The Chinese think about the next 500 years. China will own all our businesses soon enough and lay us to waste.

Americans are nothing but consumers and 52% of All Americans are on some type of medication. It's only a matter of time before our nation collapses because nobody does anything about anything as long as we have TV, free porn and our meds.

There's a good reason why China blocks porn and internet from the people. Slaves can't work if they can masturbate 3 times a day like Americans do.

Captain Kawaii 06-25-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20136528)
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-g...ter-1403699600

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of goods and services produced across the economy, contracted at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 2.9% in the first three months of the year, according to the Commerce Department's third reading released Wednesday. That was the fastest rate of decline since the first quarter of 2009, when output fell 5.4%, and matches the average pace of declines during the recession.

I keep hearing people saying that the economy is getting better, where do they get their information?

From Damian and Relentless. ;)

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20136996)
Are you sure about this?

I know you like to cherry pick your stats, but if you read the article (and the disclaimer) and then follow it all the way through to the spreadsheet.... You discover that in 2007 the average wage was $61,355 and in 2012 it is $62,241. That's median income. If you do mean income in 2007 the average was $78,845 and in 2012 it's $82,843.

Seems to me that in both cases - mean and median averages - income is up in 2012 compared to 2007. Of course, this does't fact in 2013.

Keep in mind that while our economy should be the number one concern the Republican party is doing everything it can to fight the President on every issue possible - this morning they announced they were considering sueing him.

From the link I posted if you had bothered to read

For the inflation-adjusted mean, family income fell from $87,312 in 2007 to $82,843 in 2012, the most recent year available. That?s a drop of $4,469, making Portman correct. In fact, he underestimated a bit.

The difference is even more stark if you use the inflation-adjusted median. By that measure, family income dropped from $67,943 to $62,241 over the same period. That?s a drop of $5,702 -- an 8.3 percent decline over five years.

_Richard_ 06-25-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20137018)
From the link I posted if you had bothered to read

For the inflation-adjusted mean, family income fell from $87,312 in 2007 to $82,843 in 2012, the most recent year available. That?s a drop of $4,469, making Portman correct. In fact, he underestimated a bit.

The difference is even more stark if you use the inflation-adjusted median. By that measure, family income dropped from $67,943 to $62,241 over the same period. That?s a drop of $5,702 -- an 8.3 percent decline over five years.

yea i was wondering as well.

furthermore, there has been a boatload of money printing in that period, all sent offshore.. so the real inflation hasn't had much of a chance to cause much notice for US based dollar value

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20137006)
All new manufacturing giants and jobs are all setting up shop in China.

China is a land rush for new slaves working at slave wages. American's can't compete.

When America was first set up, WE were the new land rush for new businesses because we had all the slaves. Sad, but true. We got so big, we told Britain to fuck off.

Now, China has got the goods. Cheap slave labor. The new business land rush is moving to China. Follow the slaves to follow the money.

In 200 years, USA will be the new Mexico. America will have 2 classes only, The extreme rich, and the extreme poor.

Blame ourselves for allowing our government to be controlled by corporations and allowing our money and jobs to be outsourced over seas. When the supreme court voted and made it legal for corporations to 'donate' money to politicians thru super pacs, the corporations took control of our government by the balls. It's a free for all.

We are no longer in control of our country. Corporations run the show. Your "vote" for the next president is something they let us do, so we feel that we are still in control and we live in a democracy. The older you get, the more you will realize how meaningless it is to vote. 100% meaningless.

It doesn't matter who sits in the presidents seat. The national debt keeps going higher and higher and jobs and corps are all bailing out moving to China. This is a simple evolution that can not be stopped. It will never stop.

The funny thing is, China is a communist nation. We seem to forget that while looking at profits.

After we move the remaining large corporation bases over to China, and America finally goes bankrupt because we can't borrow any more money to cover our social security debts, China can overthrow America by seizing all American manufacturing businesses on Chinese soil. China doesn't have to go to war with America to take it over. China will simply absorb all our major businesses and control America. It's a long slow process but the Chinese are brilliant with long term goals. Americans only think about the next 15 years, The Chinese think about the next 500 years. China will own all our businesses soon enough and lay us to waste.

Americans are nothing but consumers and 52% of All Americans are on some type of medication. It's only a matter of time before our nation collapses because nobody does anything about anything as long as we have TV, free porn and our meds.

There's a good reason why China blocks porn and internet from the people. Slaves can't work if they can masturbate 3 times a day like Americans do.

It's a communist government yes, but not their economy

I liked the people there

bronco67 06-25-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20136528)
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-g...ter-1403699600

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of goods and services produced across the economy, contracted at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 2.9% in the first three months of the year, according to the Commerce Department's third reading released Wednesday. That was the fastest rate of decline since the first quarter of 2009, when output fell 5.4%, and matches the average pace of declines during the recession.

I keep hearing people saying that the economy is getting better, where do they get their information?

I'm sure republicans could fix it with a good dose of trickle down economics.

Rochard 06-25-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20137018)
From the link I posted if you had bothered to read

For the inflation-adjusted mean, family income fell from $87,312 in 2007 to $82,843 in 2012, the most recent year available. That?s a drop of $4,469, making Portman correct. In fact, he underestimated a bit.

The difference is even more stark if you use the inflation-adjusted median. By that measure, family income dropped from $67,943 to $62,241 over the same period. That?s a drop of $5,702 -- an 8.3 percent decline over five years.

Stop cutting and pasting what someone else wrote. Look at the spreadsheet. Look at the spreadsheet they posted.

Rochard 06-25-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20137049)
I'm sure republicans could fix it with a good dose of trickle down economics.

It's always easy for the other side to say "We could have done better".

Come to think of it, why haven't they done better? Maybe if Congress would spend more time doing it's job and less time filing fucking lawsuits maybe we would have been much better off.

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20137049)
I'm sure republicans could fix it with a good dose of trickle down economics.

Any president could fix it better than our present leader.

Every recession since the great depression has had a recovery, no president has seen a slower recovery than Obama. I posted a link earlier about that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...t-president/2/

Reagan had a recover that lasted 28 months to get back all the jobs that were lost. Even the great depression took less time.

crockett 06-25-2014 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20137134)
Stop cutting and pasting what someone else wrote. Look at the spreadsheet. Look at the spreadsheet they posted.

Come on now, do you really think he is capable of any original thought, that isn't spoon fed to him by some right wing talking head. Have you ever seen him post a original thought that wasn't a right wing talking point? His very signature is lost on him, yet he wears it proudly as if it somehow makes him look intelligent.

He is nothing more than a worker bee drone that follows with a hive mindset. He might as well just be saying.. Hordor over and over again.

chaze 06-25-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20136528)
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-g...ter-1403699600

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of goods and services produced across the economy, contracted at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 2.9% in the first three months of the year, according to the Commerce Department's third reading released Wednesday. That was the fastest rate of decline since the first quarter of 2009, when output fell 5.4%, and matches the average pace of declines during the recession.

I keep hearing people saying that the economy is getting better, where do they get their information?

It's based on less unemployment. but as an economy we are screwed and have been for decades right? I mean it's all fake money based on a fake pay structure.

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20137025)
yea i was wondering as well.

furthermore, there has been a boatload of money printing in that period, all sent offshore.. so the real inflation hasn't had much of a chance to cause much notice for US based dollar value

the fed has been printing 85 billion a month and giving it to the banks, that can in no way be good

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze (Post 20137210)
It's based on less unemployment. but as an economy we are screwed and have been for decades right? I mean it's all fake money based on a fake pay structure.

before 9/11, we were doing pretty good. We actually had a balanced budget.
I would love to see a democrat president working with a republican controlled congress again!

Vendzilla 06-25-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20137134)
Stop cutting and pasting what someone else wrote. Look at the spreadsheet. Look at the spreadsheet they posted.

What spread sheet?

from that link

Our ruling

Portman said "the average family (is) now bringing home $4,000 less than they did just five years ago." According to Census Bureau data, the decline is even greater, making Portman?s overall point even stronger than the data he offered. We rate his claim True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rning-4000-le/

RummyBoy 06-25-2014 09:21 PM

Just imagine if its down 2.9% last month..... how about 6 months from now.

It looks like the stimulus propped things up for a very short period and withdrawal of stimulus is now tipping this thing over. Although, at down 2.9% my theory is that if a lot of that stimulus had not been tapered, it might have been down 1% plus anyway.

Rochard 06-25-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20137244)
What spread sheet?

from that link

Our ruling

Portman said "the average family (is) now bringing home $4,000 less than they did just five years ago." According to Census Bureau data, the decline is even greater, making Portman?s overall point even stronger than the data he offered. We rate his claim True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rning-4000-le/

You keep posting what someone else has written and you accept it as fact no matter what. All you can do is cut and paste. You cannot think for yourself.

What this man said was in fact correct. But when you take a look at where the data really came from, you can plainly see this is a Republican cherry picking stats and using them to back up what he claims. This person looks at stats, pulls what backs up his claim, and ignores the other stats on the same spread sheet that says the direct opposite.

I posted the numbers from the source itself, and all you can do re-post from the same article. You cannot think for yourself.

Rochard 06-25-2014 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20137198)
Come on now, do you really think he is capable of any original thought, that isn't spoon fed to him by some right wing talking head. Have you ever seen him post a original thought that wasn't a right wing talking point? His very signature is lost on him, yet he wears it proudly as if it somehow makes him look intelligent.

He is nothing more than a worker bee drone that follows with a hive mindset. He might as well just be saying.. Hordor over and over again.

All he wants to do is cut and paste from the same article.


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