Channel videos have 8 reserved spots minimum at all times on the front page, where all the traffic is. I doubt many other tubes are doing that, unless it's in-house paysites. Who else is sending traffic without referral money too? What other tube has been providing real piracy protection for free for 5 years?

We really help you build your channel popularity and our users expect your updates on our sites, they don't understand why it would vanish.

Contrary to you I don't care about my ad revenue, I already have so much I'm only trying to make things work for everyone because it is possible, and better for long term. It's just not my interest to fuck content owners.

That's fine for you and every other site.

we are in pal

So if you remove what little advertising is left, will you remove our videos on request? If you don't care about ad revenue, the content owners do, how about giving us some more? And can you get us an API that removes pirated material instantly. It's easy to monitor abuse. This is what all big tubes do, and you right now fail to do it.

Please let me know and please answer the questions directly. Contrary to your own beliefs, you don't do as much as the other big tube guys, but you can do more and get on par with them.

1. More advertising - a solid underplayer banner with descriptive text.
2. API for removal of pirated content immediately. It's pretty clear you've had issues with this and it looks like you've intentionally slowed this down
3. If you change advertising around, we have the right to kill our videos.

I understand you don't want to delete content, and you won't need to if you enact those 3 things, and show a willingness to work with content producers. If you actually do care, you'll do the work to show you care, this stuff is not hard to integrate.

1. We have no plan to remove site links where did you see that? We actually added a big one to the top of the channel pages. The ad inside the players is the best in my opinion. It's clean and you can't miss it. No plan to change any of this. If you think you need more graphic stuff you have the video for that.

2. Take-down notices should be handled in 1-2 days. If you notice a take-down request that's taking 5 days then please email us and we will see what's wrong. There is no intention to be slow. If you are up for some honest cooperation we are up too.

3. There will not be less advertisement for studios that there is now. We want to people interested in your site to find it easily. And we need you to have some success with your uploads otherwise you stop uploading...

Google is happy to kick any SERP jackings on anything that is TM, and/or pirated.

Is this some kind of joke? It is absolutely the opposite... Do you even use Google to search? My guess is: no, you do not. :helpme

In player links are not as valuable as under player links, and its not enough. In player links are not as obvious, and disappear while the video is playing, Im noticing no links on some of my videos at all. An underplayer banner built into the page is easy to see, its there 100% of the time, if its not given, it's easier to see we are getting nothing in return.

If inserting an underplayer banner is too much work, you can rig us into one of the NTV banners alongside our videos. Many tubes also do this if they don't give us an under video player banner. That's the standard in tube offerings. You're the only that gives no banners, and gives us a shitty in-player link. I am sorry, but it's the truth.

You've already said you dont care about ad revenue and you want to make it work.... Let's make it work....

Please answer.

Xvideos has brought tone of traffic to my sites.I can't complain..

Email admin@xv to continue the discussion please.

You are wrong.
https://www.google.com/transparencyr.../?r=last-month
Also, if you have a TM have your attorneys report through the "proper" channels.
Don't stick your head in the sand. Fight for your rights.

No, the discussion should continue right here. Everyone wants their fair share. What's wrong with a little transparency? Don't ask the guy to email you privately so you can shut him up with a deal. The rest of us will see it anyhow and ask for the same thing. Just make some changes and do what MindGeek and the rest of the tube world is doing. :2 cents:

We are close.... I've modified your quote above in parenthesis. The in-player ad is the shittiest ad, and most in-player ads feature an actual banner, not a text link. You can fix this pretty easily, if you cared to.

Let's work with content producers....

Will do. I represent a group by the way. I welcome the dialogue.

Done, it should have come in as a FWD, from mutual counsel, in a letter he sent both of us yesterday. Check your spam folder if you don't see it.

XVideos: Like Ruseful, one of my Uploaders clicked 'OK' when logging in. But since we just started uploading to XVideos last week there isn't much content there (yet). We would like to continue if some of these issues can be worked out. We were just in the process of 'beefing up' the channel pages for better homepage views.

We would also like an underplayer banner as this is the best option for paysites, along with a NTV ad. If this is possible we can continue our new relationship.

Plus we will be in Prague soon to meetup at the shows. :)

Our ecpm (earning by thousand views) on our submitted content are way highers (2-x) on sites with underplayer banners.

I like xvideos traffic, but we would be very happy with underplayer banners and better profile page.

Most of xvideos channel/ tag pages outrank us in the serps and Since Adwords policy changes, we cannot easily buy the brandlock from adwords anymore, so we are loosing lots of typein/ organic sales.

Its now a constant battle to keep the 1st rank on our own brands, so a little hand from you as a partner who care about us would be much appreciated.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dagfs
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=real+gfs+exposed ect ect

thanks and ttys

I won't make a private deal. Deals behind closed doors to control a market is something I deeply dislike. Same chance for everyone. That's the beauty of internet.

All content owners interested in uploading to your tube and getting traffic back will really appreciate this. Same deals for all. Thank you for that. :thumbsup

What do you mean by that? Feel free to email your ideas : admin@xv

So I guess we will continue the uploads and judge as we go along then?
Thanks for reply. :)

...about that repeat infringer thing. Any plans to actually enforce this, or can the same users be reported dozens and dozens of times without you actually doing anything?

http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/traci-lords-1

How's that page converting for you?

@Xvideos: We will continue to upload the videos what ever the outcome is but we would like to make sure that you people should not change the affiliate link code under channel or each site we uploading content, else it will be difficult to track the traffic coming in.

Secondly, you people don't need payout for affiliate signup you are sending to programs? Please clarify!

It's an unenforceable policy, especially if agreed to by someone that doesn't have proper authority. Would be like having my receptionist sign a Level3 agreement.. Except wait, there's no signature or real authentication.

Brad

LOL, Corey Silverstein would have a field day.

Fuck off xvideos!

You think you can fucking own content from a damn stupid pop up

you are beyond audacious and arrogant!

I hope your shit site fucking die

its sites like u that give tubes a bad name

the tube model is not inherently bad , its scumbag owners and management that are the issue

Yeah, I'd like that guarantee too. Especially after we already caught them locking a few of our partner program uploads and swapping teh advertiser on us to unrelated single-girl white-girl site.

The truth is, I don't trust them anymore. Which is too bad because I have built a good following on there...

There is a misunderstanding with our 3 strikes policy : info. xvideos .com/legal/repeat/

If you think you have found something wrong with it I would like to hear from you : admin@xv we have no interest in not following our own policy.
We have yet to hear of any specific case and never actually had a constructive dialogue about it with anyone.

Again we don't need affiliate money. You can keep it all, any of you we are affiliates of.

Ruseful or others, if your uploader guy accidentally clicked the wrong button just drop me an email we can probably reset your account.

If you want to discuss anything else email me. I have reached my yearly quota of public posts.

What ?

Deals behind closed doors ?

Do you mean that a guy who invests his own resources to have something made cannot decide what he wants to do with it ?

He cannot decide if he wants to just sell that product through his own distribution system, or just license it to one preferred partner ?

Who the fuck are you to decide what he can do with it ?

Oh yes I forgot - if that guy does not give you his product for free you will take it anyway. Thats what you really mean.

You are not a black mailing thief, you are actually a libertarian.

Vive La'internet.

This...:2 cents:

A contract isn't binding or legal only because it's a contract; agreement; or someone put his signature on it.

You can put all bullshit in a contract... doesn't make it legal.

The other beauty of the Internet is that sites like yours are more vulnerable to serious legal consequences than you might otherwise think.

We've been indexing you for a long time, one day that evidence will come in useful, you might want to think about what happens when I turn my full attention to recalcitrant tubes.

I was thinking the exact same thing ... Funny how none of the first responders to this thread picked up on this??

this page reminds me that despite all the daily bs and useless threads gfy still brings value

We launched YouPorn 26th Aug 2006. We started purchasing content in Jan 2007. We then created and launched the industries first content partner program in March 2007. We stopped accepting user uploads shortly after.
Why did we do this? Because our original business model was not sustainable for the industry. Studios and content producers were struggling and without new content being produced, tubes would have become very stale. We needed a solution where we could push traffic to the Paysites from where the content was originated. That's why we crated the CPP. The CP would give us authorised clips, with watermarks, and we would give the the valuable under video player banner.

Very quickly we had literally hundreds of authorised clips being uploaded via the CPP, and very quickly, YouPorn became the #1 affiliate of the CP's.

We also only put around 50-70 new clips live on YouPorn each day. These were clips that we had bought or clips from the CPP program. There were no user uploads. Testament to this was the fact that, as one of the worlds largest adult tube sites, we would receive less than 10 DMCA notices per month, most send in error by DMCA agents representing our CPP or by original creators that did not remember selling us rights.

Also, we did not allow a lot of different types of content. We had a very strict policy regarding content. If anyone ever remembers reading the "YouPorn do's and don'ts" will remember our low level of tolerance. It was our belief that if you wanted to see content of that nature, go to xhamster, and believe me, they did.

Also, we protected our user experience for the belief that they did not want to see video banners, they did not want annoying IM ads, they did not want popunders. As our traffic grew, we actually removed 3rd party banners from our pages. You see, we actually cared about the experiance of our users but most of all, we cared about the most important part of our industry, our Content Partners.

We could have done things oh so different, believe me. We could have doubled our revenues at the push of a button by not giving a f@ck, but the truth is, we cared.

We sold YouPorn in May 2011. I started my paysite network at that time and launched my first site in sept 2011. My whole business model is based on the CPP program's of the tube sites. In dec 2011 I had 4 staff and 3 Paysites. Now, I have over 80 staff, turnover in excess of $1m per month and over 20 Paysites. So please forgive me if you think I am a hypocrite if I come out fighting against any and every tube site that is not playing fair, not just to me, but EVERY content producer and studio in this industry.

I asked for studios and content producers to get in contact with me if they wanted to be part of a movement, an alliance in effect, to come together as one, to fight for our rights collectively. I am simply overwhelmed by the support we have. Biggy eluded in his post on this thread to xvideos that he represents a "group". That "group" really is the "who's who" of the industry.

Why am I doing this? Because I am no longer a tube owner, but a content producer. Why am I best positioned to spearhead this fight? I think that is clear to see. As a content owner, you do not have to be in support of this alliance or part of it. Bust rest assured, the changes we want on tubes such as xvideos, will benefit the whole industry. So you can either be part of this, or simply sit back and enjoy the ride.

It's been well documented that I, myself, am not affiliate friendly. But as an affiliate, as so many of you are on GFY, you should be encouraged by our actions. More money in studios and content producers pockets means they will have more money to shoot better content, more content, launch new sites etc.

I wish there was a like button here. Well said, R.

JT, The animosity you feel is because you are where you are today by your helping to break the backs of producers all over the world back in 2006-2008. Your culpability did end 6 months into youporn. It continues to this day that finds a production industry being ridiculed and mocked by ad networks and raped by tubes and filelockers. legal and illegal. Tube sites have forever skewed the public against paying for porn. Card bangers, some being active members of this board put the nail in the coffin. Now filelockers think it is a perfectly legitimate biz model to steal content and re-sell it.
This atmosphere did not create itself. WE created this. Some idiot on xbiz just said we do thing by trial and error in porn. if that is true, we are a trial and error in live production business then we are borked. People should THINK before leaping.

Tubes, for porn, are a phenomena that should never have been allowed to happen.

Adult content has been so devalued its hardly worth it for shooters and models to participate. The smartest have already left the business or diversified and the smart models, the hottest girls, at least in our niches never stick around. Alina Li case in point.

Govs around the world see this, their reps read these and other adult boards and they know the biz is in trouble. Projects like Operation ChokePoint are part of a never ending series of attacks because they see there is no leadership here. We are sitting ducks.

While I do not lay this solely on your head. You know the culprits. You are fighting one now on this board in your land of Czech.

I am glad you are fighting the good fight just it is hard, with your affiliate track record and the tube beginnings to get behind the guy behind the fight.

Good luck to all of you in this endeavor. I wish you success with it.

Holly shit that's a LOT of free content
http://www.xvideos.com/tags/faketaxi/1/m:10min_more
and you get traffic back from the type Ins watermarks like FuckCab.com ?

Thank you for your post, very well written and very valid points of which I agree.

wow you actually collected it? The companies were in USA or what?
What are the case links?

Interesting. ;)

When I started in Jan. 2009 I had 4 (very shitty) amateur websites. Most content I shot myself and it was horrible. I had no money, no experience, no knowledge about porn, video, photography, web design, webmastering, traffic, advertising or fucking HTML. LOL And yet I worked hard, 16 hour days, 7 days a week. And after eight months I had scraped enough together to pay my rent. WooHoo!!

But I KNEW at this point, having come from 'mainstream' and having been a working journalist for over 15 years, that I could not compete with large producers, studios or websites. I was facing a life of 'small time'. What to do? Then YouPorn came calling....

Yes, YouPorn reached out to ME (thank you Ritchie!). While still a complete newbie I could see the traffic and sales coming from YouPorn was better than anything else I had tried up to that point. I made a decision right there and then: ALL my websites would be created and optimized for YouPorn (and eventually other tubes). This meant differant content, differant designs, an entire strategy for maximizing tube traffic, surfers and hits.

Since then I have generated over 3 million in total sales, paid out almost 800K to affiliates and have made a nice six figure income for myself. While I am still a small company I now have 11 full-time (outsourced) employees, over 80 paysites, three affiliate programs and a sweet lifestyle. ALL because of YouPorn and tube sites (and endless hard work).

I did not know the beginnings of YouPorn nor did I understand 'user uploads'. As I said, I didn't 'understand' a fucking thing except that YouPorn HELPED me. Not just in traffic but the support I got from Ritchie, Randi and JT (and others there). They were always responsive and involved and helped with banners, CTR ratios, titles, descriptions, anything that would maximize my (and yes, their) earnings.

When YouPorn was sold in 2011 I knew things in "tubeland" would change radically, and it did. Today, you must "work" tube sites in a totally differant way. They have evolved (adapted?) and I have done so, too. Today, tubes are my biggest affiliates. They send the most traffic and the most sales. While I wish blogs and TGPs and other affiliates would do more (for my sake and theirs) this is just not the case.

So i can backup what JT has said about YouPorn and how it helped people like me. Did it "help" the "Industry"? Or larger companies and producers? Only they can say but I suspect more than would be admitted here.

We cannot build a time machine. I knew this back in 2009 when I began my relationship with YouPorn. Even then, people were bitching and complaining but I knew you cannot un-ring a bell. The game had changed just when I got into it, and no amount of resisting the obvious would change shit. So I could either play with the tubes or....endlessly complain. I chose to become successful.

JT: Anything you need from Peabody Media Inc. in terms of support, alliance or whatever we are on board. Good luck with your fight(s).

Xvideos. Any ways we can get a big banner across the channels page?
You guys rank so well for many brands I think it would really help all.

Kinda like a FB header clickable :)

The biggest tube for infringed videos.

Interesting thread!

^^^ this ^^^

Your people don't answer the important questions, so public forum it must be!

When I asked why (and under what rules) your site is allowed to remove the associated banner from 2 of my videos, lock it so I cant fix it, then add your own banner to some single girl white girl site.. I got no response except "its fixed now". Again, i replied asking why... NO ANSWER.

What you did violates our rights and is theft of revenue.

We upload to the site and add the program channel to the video because that is the only way we authorized you to display the content. By removing our banner, you violated that agreement.

All I want is an answer as to why you did that and a guarantee (in writing) that it won't happen again. Can you guys provide that? Or do we move on and no longer support use of our videos on xvideos/xnxx including barring affiliates from promotion on xvideos since we can't guarantee right now that our affiliate will be within legal rights to display our content if you start swapping people's program banners again?

I can't speak for Biggy, but there are things that you just won't hear about on the boards and some of these things are better left off them.

I think it would be in everyone's interest if you could come up with a better acronym than CP to describe anything to do with your site.