This is the point TeenCat, xvideos in many cases is NOT an affiliate of a site but they still use the site name/brand to hijack the serps and the site/brand owner gets nothing in return, not even some traffic.

oh, that is another thing, i thought they always credit original paysite. now i understand ... :2 cents:

We are not affiliates of your sites so that you get 100% of the money made by the joins. It was a solidarity move, believe it or not.

There is no plan to exploit your sites names. Google changes algorithm all the time but we haven't done any change in years.

XVideos, RUC and Manwin/Mindgeek not getting along with each other?

Shucks ........

@xvideos - Perhaps you can shed some light on this then. This is just one example of many and obviously isn't isolated to just xvideos:

http://www.xvideos.com/video3115586/...ed_wives_hacer

Project Voyeur is a brand just like Homegrown video. My point is, anyone typing projectvoyeur into google is now presented with links to xvideos, xnxx, etc.

I'm not bashing you but simply stating my perception of things. I appreciate that you'll have your own opinion(s).

We've gone, already, simple as that. I might restart just using smaller taster clips instead of 5-10 minute ones and see how that goes.

So what happens when some creep uploads more CP and horse fucking porn to XVideos and he loses his ability to delete it?

Is XVideos then admitting full responsibility for said content on its servers?

i understand overall where you are coming from, but i personally think that you need to clarify this aspect asap, a lot of content producers are expecting this now.

hahaha

fuck you, you sellout tool

you deserve everything coming to you

:321GFY

We do the same as usual if we are not talking about generic words : if it's unauthorized videos we help you to get the pages removed from both Google and Xvideos. Ideally you would have your own channel ranked well on Google instead.

You are right this move was a bit maladroit, but I feel still necessary. More clarification coming, and likely an update.

I've been helping myself to my neighbors' Christmas lights and decorations for the last 6 years.

This December my house will be visible from the Space Station.

love the irony in this thread

This thread is great

It's always good to hear the other side.

you are joined as a member of our program, and are using your affiliate link - so you appear to be getting paid from us .. what do you mean we get 100% of the money?

I would like to get it all - let me know - if you can clarify this, shit I will keep uploading

We can update those links to be direct to your sites. What is your account?

twitter.com/xvideoscom/status/377537652620144640

I'm glad that we have that in writing that you'll always respect our wish to remove certain videos, should I imply that to mean we can have our videos removed whenever we please?

Let's say you won't agree to this? You give absolute minimal advertising space to your Content Partners. Lets play devils advocate and say that in the future, you decide to remove ALL advertising to the Content Partner. Its your site, you can do this. What recourse does a Content Partner have then?

What if you were to decide, in the future, that your "community" is strong enough to support your tube with stolen content? And the fact that it takes up to 5 days for you to comply with DMCA, and the fact that you seem to have a very lapse Repeat Infringer policy, this all plays into a potential move for you to increase your ad revenues further.

You have an opportunity right now to do more for Content Partner, or you can continue down the current path, and I can tell you, it won't be the path of least resistance any more.

you can leave the links as is , so I can track them - I will just make note not to pay out? that cool with you?

we have barbi sinclair, mandy tyler , and few other sites --

Channel videos have 8 reserved spots minimum at all times on the front page, where all the traffic is. I doubt many other tubes are doing that, unless it's in-house paysites. Who else is sending traffic without referral money too? What other tube has been providing real piracy protection for free for 5 years?

We really help you build your channel popularity and our users expect your updates on our sites, they don't understand why it would vanish.

Contrary to you I don't care about my ad revenue, I already have so much I'm only trying to make things work for everyone because it is possible, and better for long term. It's just not my interest to fuck content owners.

That's fine for you and every other site.

we are in pal

So if you remove what little advertising is left, will you remove our videos on request? If you don't care about ad revenue, the content owners do, how about giving us some more? And can you get us an API that removes pirated material instantly. It's easy to monitor abuse. This is what all big tubes do, and you right now fail to do it.

Please let me know and please answer the questions directly. Contrary to your own beliefs, you don't do as much as the other big tube guys, but you can do more and get on par with them.

1. More advertising - a solid underplayer banner with descriptive text.
2. API for removal of pirated content immediately. It's pretty clear you've had issues with this and it looks like you've intentionally slowed this down
3. If you change advertising around, we have the right to kill our videos.

I understand you don't want to delete content, and you won't need to if you enact those 3 things, and show a willingness to work with content producers. If you actually do care, you'll do the work to show you care, this stuff is not hard to integrate.

1. We have no plan to remove site links where did you see that? We actually added a big one to the top of the channel pages. The ad inside the players is the best in my opinion. It's clean and you can't miss it. No plan to change any of this. If you think you need more graphic stuff you have the video for that.

2. Take-down notices should be handled in 1-2 days. If you notice a take-down request that's taking 5 days then please email us and we will see what's wrong. There is no intention to be slow. If you are up for some honest cooperation we are up too.

3. There will not be less advertisement for studios that there is now. We want to people interested in your site to find it easily. And we need you to have some success with your uploads otherwise you stop uploading...

Google is happy to kick any SERP jackings on anything that is TM, and/or pirated.

Is this some kind of joke? It is absolutely the opposite... Do you even use Google to search? My guess is: no, you do not. :helpme

In player links are not as valuable as under player links, and its not enough. In player links are not as obvious, and disappear while the video is playing, Im noticing no links on some of my videos at all. An underplayer banner built into the page is easy to see, its there 100% of the time, if its not given, it's easier to see we are getting nothing in return.

If inserting an underplayer banner is too much work, you can rig us into one of the NTV banners alongside our videos. Many tubes also do this if they don't give us an under video player banner. That's the standard in tube offerings. You're the only that gives no banners, and gives us a shitty in-player link. I am sorry, but it's the truth.

You've already said you dont care about ad revenue and you want to make it work.... Let's make it work....

Please answer.

Xvideos has brought tone of traffic to my sites.I can't complain..

Email admin@xv to continue the discussion please.

You are wrong.
https://www.google.com/transparencyr.../?r=last-month
Also, if you have a TM have your attorneys report through the "proper" channels.
Don't stick your head in the sand. Fight for your rights.

No, the discussion should continue right here. Everyone wants their fair share. What's wrong with a little transparency? Don't ask the guy to email you privately so you can shut him up with a deal. The rest of us will see it anyhow and ask for the same thing. Just make some changes and do what MindGeek and the rest of the tube world is doing. :2 cents:

We are close.... I've modified your quote above in parenthesis. The in-player ad is the shittiest ad, and most in-player ads feature an actual banner, not a text link. You can fix this pretty easily, if you cared to.

Let's work with content producers....

Will do. I represent a group by the way. I welcome the dialogue.

Done, it should have come in as a FWD, from mutual counsel, in a letter he sent both of us yesterday. Check your spam folder if you don't see it.

XVideos: Like Ruseful, one of my Uploaders clicked 'OK' when logging in. But since we just started uploading to XVideos last week there isn't much content there (yet). We would like to continue if some of these issues can be worked out. We were just in the process of 'beefing up' the channel pages for better homepage views.

We would also like an underplayer banner as this is the best option for paysites, along with a NTV ad. If this is possible we can continue our new relationship.

Plus we will be in Prague soon to meetup at the shows. :)

Our ecpm (earning by thousand views) on our submitted content are way highers (2-x) on sites with underplayer banners.

I like xvideos traffic, but we would be very happy with underplayer banners and better profile page.

Most of xvideos channel/ tag pages outrank us in the serps and Since Adwords policy changes, we cannot easily buy the brandlock from adwords anymore, so we are loosing lots of typein/ organic sales.

Its now a constant battle to keep the 1st rank on our own brands, so a little hand from you as a partner who care about us would be much appreciated.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dagfs
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=real+gfs+exposed ect ect

thanks and ttys

I won't make a private deal. Deals behind closed doors to control a market is something I deeply dislike. Same chance for everyone. That's the beauty of internet.

All content owners interested in uploading to your tube and getting traffic back will really appreciate this. Same deals for all. Thank you for that. :thumbsup

What do you mean by that? Feel free to email your ideas : admin@xv