Its gets stronger every day

http://cs616618.vk.me/v616618183/2bd0/7I1D9ZDRArw.jpg

That's make shift anti rocket armor on a APC. If you notice, the US's APCs in Iraq have metal grating welded all around them, it's for the same reason.

When the rocket propelled grenade hits the grating, it blows up before hitting the actual armor. Just because it looks silly, doesn't mean it doesn't work.

Hell at the start of Iraq, the US didn't have armored Humvee's and soldiers often self built their own armor systems.

They are simply trying to mimic what the US figured out in Iraq with the metal grating that stops the rocket propelled grenades.

Example of how the US military does it. It's a cheap and simple method to defeat a cheap weapon system that is capable of taking out the APC if not for the make shift grating armor.

http://defense-update.com/wp-content...ra-stryker.jpg

Just like welding steel plates under our deuce and a halves.

If Russia loses it's because Putin chose to make it look like they weren't trying to take Ukraine. It's obvious to the world that he wants Ukraine, but his stupid Russian brain doesn't realize how transparent his ham-fisted sneaky Russian bullshit moves are.

If you want to invade, then invade and absorb Ukraine and take the consequences of being ostracized by the world. He wants it both ways. You can't be Saddam Hussein, and still play in the sandbox with the other kids.

Putin don't need the okraina. Just because he can't gain any profit from that sad and depressive territory. Crimea was a way different thing. It always been a part of Russia, showered by blood of Russian soldiers. It is the Russian outpost in Black Sea, so course it was a matter of time when it came back to its motherland.

Russia would crush Ukraine.

Of course they would. Russia would crush most nations in a military conflict. They're like a cat playing with it's kill.

Why does this thread attack my computer?

US and UK should have stand for Ukraine according to memorandum, but they did not. Ask your President.

Should? LOL )))) They simple don't give a shit about okraina. In fact, nobody does. Even cockroaches like you, left the motherland already because even the brainless insects don't wanna have any relation with that broke territory :2 cents:

French military sided militia Donbass youtube.com/watch?v=y8KLwGsHgQw#t=31 :thumbsup

Putin needs Ukraine to fail to make sure nobody in Russia thinks there is alternative to Putin.

So what, half of Europe was showered with Russian blood, will Russia claim Berlin, Vienna, Budapest, Warsaw and Vilnius now?

Also, what about Kuril Islands - they have always been Japanese yet Russia conquered them a few years before Crimea went to Ukraine.
It's not about principles, Putin needs a conflict because internal policy is failing so finding external enemy is always the best option.

Those are two extremely stupid posts above. Sorry but they don't deserve an answer. Get a clue, man.

Nobody cares about Ukraine ... that is falling in a deep deflation ( how is the currency going ? can they pay their bills ? )...

Ukraine is being used and wil be discarded to the trash can once of no more use :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...russian-threat

#55 ends of the war...

There is no WAR as per Ukrainian president. It is ATO, where ukrainians+mercenaries kill ukrainians+mercenaries. And defeating Russia somehow.

Russia lost in 1905 war and give islands away. Japan lost WWII and lost islands too. That war very common practice - losing the war and peace of country. So what about this islands?

Based on US and Ukraine intel, Ukraine rebels are counterattacking with Russian help.

I see, so this time just Ukraine lost the war with Russia and Russia took part of Ukrainian territory.

Russia just took what always belonged to Russia. One guy just gave Crimea to Ukraine long time ago while it was USSR.

op you need bunker treats? :helpme:helpme:helpme

Sure. War (even if you call it ATO) cost big money. Where all this tanks and ammo are coming from? From Russia.

While USSR had a war in Afghanistan US provided weapon to locals. In Vietnam USSR helped vietcong with ammo and instructors. And there are many more examples. And it is happening now in Ukraine. US helping to Ukraine and Russia helping to rebels.

They have the money to do war, at least if we are talking about countries, the world is beggars besides USA and Russia. Supporting is to used to try to turn the war either side's favour.

so now its time to take it the army way? are you fucking ill or what drugs are you putting to your ass every day??? :helpme if the war become big, i hope big guys as you will be in the first row ... :upsidedow

I meant rebels. They don't have money for war. Russia does. Ukraine barely can afford this ATO. And someone keep talking about war with Russia...

A war with Russia? Are you drunk or high? How many people were killed on that "war"? AFAIK the Crimeans said "fuck you" to a broke okraina and joined Russia w/o any fight.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...t_facepalm.jpg

You sad with your big ratio today? Or you high yourself?

Look at other countries how they solve problems - wars, bombing and killing thousands. And Russia took what belonged to her without blood. Just because they could. You think it is 2014 and something charged? If I remember it right we only had 240 years without wars during 3000+ years.

And why you decide I support it? I just explain why it has happen.

Based on Mr. Diez Russia somehow lost war in Ukraine. Who then Ukrainian army still fight to? Any updates? I only see news about rebels attacking now, but need to see other side opinion.

He can't . One reason only . He is afraid of what the other nations would do to him . No Not just the U.S. but all the others .Russia won't be crushing anyone in our lifetime .He can play only so far and his hand will be slapped .

Mr. Diez watch too much Ukranian Tv thats where he gets his information and talk only shit. Well Ukraine gived up on fighing they need to take a break or maybe they have another plan. But fighting rebels for 5 months so far its useless it can go for years. Ukraine are in bad economic situation , currency droping, gas debts up to billions of dollars, Im not sure how they going to survive this winter. War costs lots of money each figher plane cost 5 million dollars, rebels shot down maybe up to 20 of them or more so 100 million right there. Im not including helicopters,tanks,apc,artilerry and ammo.

You are boring as fuck with this... Watch your business and leave politics a side man.... It can only harm your biz....

Well this guy opened few threads, I would like to know what is going on.

Why do you guys think he needs Ukraine? He just need some country between Russian and Europe.