It's pretty stunning isn't it. I walk past the McD's in the corner of my supermarket parking lot every time I shop. Always a big line.. and that's around 1 am. The grocery store is practically empty. Never a line. Plus they sell beer.

I'm saying that when I was a kid...it was a big treat to get to go to McDonalds.
We ate at home every night.

But once every couple of weeks or so we might all get to go to McDonalds (as a family). My parents and 3 of us kids. It was an inexpensive and kinda fun thing to do in a small town when you are a kid. :)

Not so sure that it's so easy to do these days for those kinds of people because it's not a cheap night out anymore. So it gets done less (if at all) in that situation.

These days...I go to Inn & Out. Not only do they taste better. But it's a lot cheaper to go there too.

And if you go to Arbys? You might as well NOT go there and just go ahead and hit up a regular restaurant. It'll cost you about the same and the food will be better. Arbys is so damn expensive it's not even funny.

And to think, a few years ago they were super cheap. They'd even run those promotions where you could get 5 roast beef sandwiches for $5.
I used to grab a sack of 5 of them and bring them to the office for everybody.

Chicken is even cheaper yet there is a busy KFC across the street that charges 2-3 times the amount for nasty fried shit. I don't get it either. The real sad thing is the "We Take EBT Cards" sign in the KFC window.

I don't eat donuts. I am guessing you are referring to "Friday Fritter" we do on Facebook. That was started by my brother in law, it's a family thing; I don't eat the fritter or donuts.

I also don't eat bacon. I mean, everyone loves bacon, and I have a "I heart bacon" sticker on my truck.... But I rarely eat bacon.

I've lost thirty pounds since Phoenix Forum. I'm doing good.

I do eat pizza though. I love pizza.

I read an interview with their American CEO. They have a big mountain to climb to get out of this.
1. prices climbing many see it is just not worth it.
2. customer service is shittier than the food.
3. the Asian scare. -
How about some green, rotten chicken with those McNuggets? :winkwink:

#3 they really fucked up in Asia. McD's apologized, promised it won't happen again and tried to move on. Fail.

Another chain, Saizeriya that specializes in cheap Italian snacks and meals was accused of having Chinese ingredients in their snacks claiming to be 100% Japanese ingredients. Saizeriya pulled the Chinese contents, apologized and gave away 500 yen coupons to anyone who came in, no receipt needed and said "I ate here and want my coupon." At Saizeriya, since they serve beer and wine, 500 yen can get you wasted or almost fed. Saizeriya is rocking again and McD's standing there with their dick in their hands. Pizza Hut, KFC and BK are in the same boat. Greed and stupidity have gotten them there.

Now McD's in Asia is realizing their fail and trying to give away 100 yen coupons and nobody gives a shit. The horse left the gate and McD's is FUCT. Good for them, their food is shyte.

Putting the customer ahead of your greed and your convenience is a tune we can all dance to.

the local butcher has the same sign,........Fuck that i worked hard for my strips and others just get to have it????? at no cost??? this system is beyond broke, bettter get my vote in!

Don't fret. The CEO and others will still be getting a pay raise and bonus!

Good for humanity.

I don't understand how poor folk can keep eating there - it's no longer cheaper than anything. Your local greasey spoon is cheaper. Plus, you have to check how "healthy" McD's is country-per-country, because of norms and regulations... it's much healthier in Europe than in the US, for example. More real food, actually...

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For those of you that dont understand the poor people eating at McDonald's, the answer is simple.

The grocery store doesnt have a drive-thru window.

Most of the poor people eating fast food arent doing it because they are poor, they are doing it because they are lazy. They are probably poor for the same reason.

I'm trying to find fault in this post and honestly, I can't. Unfortunate but probably the truth.


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Or they don't have enough time to make real food for their family because they work shit jobs that pay shit and don't want to spend an hour making a real dinner

Damn, fast food places take EBT cards? Well shit.. that should not be. If it has to be, then it should ONLY be for areas that really and truly have no grocery stores.. When there is a grocery store, I would support EBT being quite limited to staple foods but it would take a long time to work out what that is exactly since not everyone is identical.
I may have to go on EBT again and I hate to even be considering it, but the simple fact is that I have qualified for it now since I got out of the hospital :( It's hard to do a lot when I'm at 20% heart strength but the fact is I have a lot of pride still and hate to admit that I should be using that help. I would NEVER, EVER use that aid for fast food!! Thats bullshit.

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What I have against this is the percentage of food money wasted on overpriced unhealthy junk. I feel everyone in America should eat well. This isn't eating well and certainly isn't maximizing a food budget


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I agree, the consumer is hit twice. Price has been steadily increasing while the size of the goodies has been decreasing.

I guarantee you that I work more hours EVERY day (including weekends and holidays) than any "poor" person out there.
And so do most business owners.

I think you're way off the mark on that one.

Yes, fast food is convenient. But it also was pretty cheap. Not any more.

I got breakfast at McDonald's yesterday and tit cost me $14.82!!

You can go all-$1 menu but damn.

Good stuff. It means less people are eating their garbage.

Do you qualify for SSI?

I've also been dealing with some serious health issues over the past year or so. Havent worked at all since January. Was rejected for SSI earlier this year but re-applied and am hoping to hear back shortly. It's been a nightmare. I have to eat healthy but am generally too fatigued to cook so ive been ordering healthy take-out food 3x per day which adds up pretty quickly. Havent tried for ebt as i have enough savings to last for another 5-6 months at my current spending level and only order take-out so i wouldnt be able to really use it for the time being. The ssi would be nice, though. I think its like $800/month. I will have no qualms taking it because i truly have not been able to work this year and would only use it until i return to full health. Or at least 80% or so full health at which point ill be ready to start working again.

There's a difference between using the system and abusing the system. Given that the system exists, its fine to use it if necessary so long as you don't abuse it. At least that's how i feel.

Anyway, good luck with everything!

Yeah, it's ridiculously expensive here in the city. It's horrible food and simply not worth the price. You can get a bacon, egg, and cheese on a whole grain bagel and a banana from your local deli for like $4. Maybe even cheaper in your neighborhood. It's not terribly healthy but at least you know that you're getting real eggs and boar's head bacon instead of the over-processed frankenfood shit that passes for food at McDonalds.

Exactly. I felt like being a little bad for lunch today and wanted burgers. Needed milk and oj anyway so hit the store 2 blocks away and picked up some top shelf ground beef, fresh shitake mushrooms, a roll of Camembert cheese and bread. added onions and a little olive oil and spice and for less than 5$ we (2 people) had a delicious lunch. Cook time: About 30 minutes.

Its criminal what corporations get away with in the US. Add that to an increasing number of lazy, self-entitled people and we have 300 pound 12 year olds. Rock on!

Interesting. Assuming that one already has the olive oil, all the other items would probably be nearly twice as much at like a Whole Foods here in NYC. I thought Tokyo was more expensive.

We're about the same age and I remember being able to find enough loose change in my dad's pockets, the car seats and sofa cushions to get to McDonalds almost any time I wanted to. The regular hamburgers, they were small but hey I was a kid and and weighed 80 pounds, those were 20 cents, with cheese 25 cents, I'd get two of them, small fries were I think 20 cents, maybe even 15 cents, and a drink - all for less than a buck.

So like you I thought man fast food prices are so high today, I went and looked for how much the meal I ordered hundreds of times in the early 70's costs today.

Regular Hamburger $1.31x(2)=$2.62
Small French Fries $1.56
Medium Soft Drink $1.69
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Total $5.87

Then I went to Google to find an inflation calculator - used .90 cents in 1972 and according to the inflation calculator today that is $5.13. Not a big difference. They didn't even have the Quarter Pounder then, all McDonalds had was the small hamburgers/cheeseburgers, the Big Mac, french fries and hot apple pie and soft drinks/milkshakes.

TacoBell was the cheapest, even as an adult in my 20's and I think 30's, the tacos were 39 cents, hard to beat that. I had the misfortune once to see a kid bring in the TacoBell 'meat' in a clear plastic bag - a huge bag of gray mush. I wish I had never seen it. The Arby's roast beef 'product' is gross if you see a photo of it, which shocked me because when I look at an Arby's sandwich it looks like thinly sliced roast beef - it isn't :Oh crap

But penny candy really was penny candy, in fact a lot of the penny candy at the convenience store I spent way too much time at was 2 pieces of candy for 1 cent, depended on which candy. Double Bubble and Black Cat gum was 2 cents apiece.

That sucks, what happened to you?

"The typical net profit margin for a McDonald's Franchise is about 5.7%"

Not big profit margins for fast food chains, between 5-10% - when BurgerKing bought Tim Horton's I read that Tim's has a very high profit margin for the industry, 15 or 20%.

Candy is ridiculously expensive in NYC. Ralph Lauren's daughter has a candy store called Dylan's Candy Bar. More places like that and the candy bar at fao schwarz have been opening up and the prices are always high.

It saddens me when I see parents take their children to McDonalds for a treat. If they learn it at a young age that McD is a treat, they are going to eat a lot of that once they have their own money.

I think McDonalds should be a quick bite when you don't have the time to get anything else, but not a treat and not a regular thing.

The quality has gone way down, there are less and less in a burger. I have eaten a cheeseburger 2 weeks ago, it was the meat 2 slices of pickle, cheese and ketchup and mustard. No onions, so nothing.

And I agree with the guy with his another ex on his picture ( sorry can't remember the name ) , if you re on a budget why would you go out to eat McDonalds? You can make better at home with ingredients you actually control in not much longer time.

First was pneumonia last year. Started feeling fatigued in July and thought I was just getting old. Finally went to the ER in September and spent 11 days at the hospital and had to be on oxygen at home for a little more than a month afterward. Started feeling better, working, going out and about, and gaining back some weight in December. Then in mid-january, i started feeling like shit again, went to the ER, and found out I had a bacterial infection in my stomach. Kind of like tb, but not as deadly. At first it was just night sweats, chills, and occasional fever. Now its just cramps. I've had cramps every day since the beginning of June. They were really bad through September but are less painful now. Im also still really fatigued.

Not only that, but having all of the above happen right after two years of IRS back tax hell can really fuck with your head. So I started going to a psychiatrist back in May and was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. There's healthy stress and unhealthy stress. I dont mind the healthy, typically work-related stress. I actuallt kind of like it because it can fuel ambition. But the unhealthy, health related stress can get pretty bad and lead to anxiety attacks.

All this shit builds character, though, and i do feel like im getting better now so hopefully i'll be ready to work at near 100% by January.

...the sad truth.

some poor people are working three minimum wage jobs to make ends meet but its probably not typical.

It costs $7.50 for a Big Mac, fries and a drink. I pay $6.99 for a kick ass BBQ lunch at Famous Dave's, or $6.99 for something at Olive Garden.

Granted that stuff isn't the best, it's better and cheaper than McD's.

Yeah. I call bullshit too.

i can't even get a pound of ground beef that isn't anything special for under 9 bucks.

Sorry to hear that. Focus on getting well, the rest will fall in line!

I'd like to hear more about healthy eating from a collection of the worlds unhealthiest people please. So far so good..

so the whole country??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh wow!!

Kroger supermarkets have ground beef 72/28 for $3.00 a pound everyday across multiple states.

He's Canadian, everything is more expensive in Canada - the government recently did a study investigating why prices for everything and anything were more expensive than in the U.S. and of course the study came to some worthless conclusions that nobody will do anything about - the truth is there is a 'Canadian tax' that Canadians impose on each other for no other reason than because they can. And since Canadians enjoy a pretty good standard of living it just keeps perpetuating itself, people just accept it.

A Canadian company will sell its products in the U.S. sometimes for as much as half what they sell for in Canada - why? Because they have to compete in the U.S., they know that they can get away with gouging on prices in Canada, because everybody does it, it's like this secret pact that just evolved over decades.

Pharmaceuticals are cheaper in Canada because the government controls prices on them. But not for veterinary medications, drugs for pets is one thing Canadians will drive across the border to save a lot of money on.

Funny, I have suffered from IBS my entire life, pretty much everything gives me the shits other than bland innocuous foods. Of fast food restaurants, McDonalds is the worst for my stomach for some reason, not Taco Bell.

IBS was always thought to be a psychosomatic disorder, it turns out it's more a neurological disease.

yeah, import tariffs in part. while they are pretty low in the US they are often 5 times more here. though with food prices on stuff like meat that isn't imported (that i know of) i don't know. that same pound of beef was 7 bucks last year. manufacturers know the can price their items higher in canada and this was mostly accepted when the dollar was so poor, though its getting poor again even when it was at par nothing changed. we'd pay an extra $5000 for the exact same car when our dollar was worth the exact same as a US dollar.