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poncabare 12-11-2014 04:48 PM

he isnt president and never will be so who cares

2MuchMark 12-11-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320563)
the thing that flies right over **********'s head and the other completely stupid dimwits is that my being in a convo with them is what makes me appear smart. I've never claimed to be smart, yet, posting/debating with the dimwitted makes me appear smart to them.

IN fact, as they point out, my chatting about simple concepts and other topics where facts are not only self-evident, it's assumed the people with common sense are familiar with them, makes me appear like a know-it-all to the **********s of the dolt world.

it's kind of embarrassing actually, I have to admit, I've only recently come to grips with how truly stupid ********** is. I had thought it was an act, like rochard.


Do you even read your own posts?

In your second post in this thread, you called Slapass "Fucking Stupid". How would you know, unless you thought you were smarter than he was? (Fact: You're not).

In your next post to him, you told him again that he was "fucking stupid". Exactly who are you comparing him to? Clearly you are comparing him to yourself. If he is "fucking stupid" compared to you, then you by definition are "fucking smart", in your own mind.

Later on in Post #11, you called DirectFiesta "Fucking Stupid".

Then in post # 12, you say "you fucking stupid fucks might ought to learn what "natural born citizen" means prior to spewing your stupid fucking bullshit.". Who are you talking to here? Everyone?

In post #18 you called DirectFiesta and Pornguy "Two dimwit Dumbfucks" and called their lives "Dreary', then ended it with "gofuckyourselves."

Etc...

Smarten up man. You are just making yourself look stupid. If you want to participate in a thread and offer your opinions by all means do so. But stop calling people stupid then deny you even did it. You're not a 10 year old anymore.

WDF 12-11-2014 05:01 PM

2 pages of bickering says a few people care. What is funny is some in this thread do not even live in the US.

WDF 12-11-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20320597)
You're not a 10 year old anymore.

I think to some degree this site makes most people here act much younger then they are. :2 cents:

artwilliams 12-11-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20320554)
Yea but they get page views and generate revenue from ads. That is all that really matters here.

That would be fine if the business threads were separated from the "fucking around" threads but they are not. It means having to wade through bullshit like this to find the interesting industry stuff.

Vendzilla 12-11-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20320407)
Like I said.....

BORN IN PANAMA.

But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country?s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:
Congress: ?And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.?

dyna mo 12-11-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 20320610)
That would be fine if the business threads were separated from the "fucking around" threads but they are not. It means having to wade through bullshit like this to find the interesting industry stuff.

the thread title did not alert you to the bullshit status of this thread? you had to click and add to the bullshit or?

dyna mo 12-11-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20320597)
Do you even read your own posts?

In your second post in this thread, you called Slapass "Fucking Stupid". How would you know, unless you thought you were smarter than he was? (Fact: You're not).

In your next post to him, you told him again that he was "fucking stupid". Exactly who are you comparing him to? Clearly you are comparing him to yourself. If he is "fucking stupid" compared to you, then you by definition are "fucking smart", in your own mind.

Later on in Post #11, you called DirectFiesta "Fucking Stupid".

Then in post # 12, you say "you fucking stupid fucks might ought to learn what "natural born citizen" means prior to spewing your stupid fucking bullshit.". Who are you talking to here? Everyone?

In post #18 you called DirectFiesta and Pornguy "Two dimwit Dumbfucks" and called their lives "Dreary', then ended it with "gofuckyourselves."

Etc...

Smarten up man. You are just making yourself look stupid. If you want to participate in a thread and offer your opinions by all means do so. But stop calling people stupid then deny you even did it. You're not a 10 year old anymore.

LOLZ, I can only imagine how much time and effort you had to put into constructing this. counting posts, noting post #s, adding up how many times I've said fuck on a board called gofuckyourself.

your employers are getting their money's worth from you eh.

slapass 12-11-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20320612)
But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country?s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:
Congress: ?And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.?

Nobody is disagreeing with that. It is just odd that some jumped on Obama, and this guy got a free ride. I just thought it was funny.

artwilliams 12-11-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320643)
the thread title did not alert you to the bullshit status of this thread? you had to click and add to the bullshit or?

It certainly did. My point in that post was if there was a business only forum I wouldn't even have to read the moronic titles moronically written by mega-morons.

BTW, the answer is here:

Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

McCain is clearly American by birth right. American citizenship does not necessarily require being born in America. Canadian-American Republican Senator Ted Cruz from Texas (and possible presidential candidate) knows this well. He was born in Alberta, Canada to American parents yet he is also American by birth.

WDF 12-11-2014 06:25 PM

By the same reasoning Obama being born to an American Parent had no reason to have his eligibility/status questioned.

dyna mo 12-11-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 20320668)
It certainly did. My point in that post was if there was a business only forum I wouldn't even have to read the moronic titles moronically written by mega-morons.

BTW, the answer is here:

Birthright citizenship in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

McCain is clearly American by birth right. American citizenship does not necessarily require being born in America. Canadian-American Republican Senator Ted Cruz from Texas (and possible presidential candidate) knows this well. He was born in Alberta, Canada to American parents yet he is also American by birth.


nice post! common sense and intelligence :thumbsup

dyna mo 12-11-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20320691)
By the same reasoning Obama being born to an American Parent had no reason to have his eligibility/status questioned.

the entire thing is pretty fucking stupid right? I really don't think BO could have done a more pathetic job as PUSA if he were born in Kenya or Hawaii before it was a state.
:warning

dyna mo 12-11-2014 06:45 PM

okey dokey, Ima wrap up this session of troll the dipshit wannabe trolls.

now is a good time to add that I recently asked ********** if he was interested in both of us calling it quits on trolling, his reply was along the lines of "fuck off, go back to having anal sex with your mother."

as you can see in this thread, he should have taken me up on my offer, but he's a mental midget and couldn't figure that out.

2MuchMark 12-11-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320716)
okey dokey, Ima wrap up this session of troll the dipshit wannabe trolls.

Quitting again, loser?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320716)
now is a good time to add that I recently asked ********** if he was interested in both of us calling it quits on trolling, his reply was along the lines of "fuck off, go back to having anal sex with your mother."

as you can see in this thread, he should have taken me up on my offer, but he's a mental midget and couldn't figure that out.

LOL Stop complaining about your sore vagina. You didn't ask for a truce - you asked for a fresh start, and I said "No, thanks". I want nothing to do with a self obsessed idiot that thinks is totally fine for animals to be suffocated in crude oil. Sorry asshole, but there's no redeeming that. Like I told you many times, I'm not interested in being your friend, your BFF, your boyfriend, your mothers lover while you watch, nothing, nada. Try to understand these two words: FUCK OFF. Try real hard. Still not getting it? You must be simple minded. I'll call the short bus for you. Don't forget to put your helmet back on.

thecatwrites 12-11-2014 07:52 PM

Here we go again...

dyna mo 12-11-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20320732)
Quitting again, loser?



LOL Stop complaining about your sore vagina. You didn't ask for a truce - you asked for a fresh start, and I said "No, thanks". I want nothing to do with a self obsessed idiot that thinks is totally fine for animals to be suffocated in crude oil. Sorry asshole, but there's no redeeming that. Like I told you many times, I'm not interested in being your friend, your BFF, your boyfriend, your mothers lover while you watch, nothing, nada. Try to understand these two words: FUCK OFF. Try real hard. Still not getting it? You must be simple minded. I'll call the short bus for you. Don't forget to put your helmet back on.

you really are this fucking stupid.

it's like you can't or are not even capable of realizing everthing here is on the record.

here's my post, you stupid fucking dimwit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20274217)
hey **********, up for a truce to our personal attacks on each other? we can both agree to go back to posting what we believe to be facts and our opinions on them and arguing those.




lemme know.

what's really fucking faggoty is your thinking that's an offer to be bff's. you dimwitted fuckwad.

Rochard 12-11-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20320612)
But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country?s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:
Congress: ?And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.?

Pay attention. I didn't say he wasn't a natural-born citizen. I said he was born in Panama. I even said it in bold letters so you would see it.

Rochard 12-11-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20320691)
By the same reasoning Obama being born to an American Parent had no reason to have his eligibility/status questioned.

Well how about that.

Let me see if I follow you correctly here. McCain, who was born in Panama, is considered a natural-born citizen because one of his parents was a US citizen. Even if Obama wasn't born in the US, he too would be considered a.... natural-born citizen - Just like McCain. If Obama wasn't eligible.... Nor would McCain be eligible.

How about that.

2MuchMark 12-11-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320882)
you really are this fucking stupid.

it's like you can't or are not even capable of realizing everthing here is on the record.

here's my post, you stupid fucking dimwit:



what's really fucking faggoty is your thinking that's an offer to be bff's. you dimwitted fuckwad.

Prove you're a bigger man than me, and shut your cake hole when it comes to me. Stop being such a goddamn little bitch and stop insulting others on GFY for no reason at all, and stop disrupting threads for no reason. Grow up for fuck sakes. I'm not interested in anything you have to say. If you want a truce, stop insulting me. That's it, thats all.

edgeprod 12-11-2014 10:06 PM

I just did some research: turns out that American military bases are NOT considered "U.S. Soil," unlike embassies and consulates (which are). Learn something new every day! I retract my previous erroneous statement about the base he was born on. Turns out he was NOT born in the U.S. after all.

2MuchMark 12-11-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20320940)
I just did some research: turns out that American military bases are NOT considered "U.S. Soil," unlike embassies and consulates (which are). Learn something new every day! I retract my previous erroneous statement about the base he was born on. Turns out he was NOT born in the U.S. after all.

Yup, I read that somewhere too. This is why I guess that legally speaking this is a bit of a messy situation.

dyna mo 12-11-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20320937)
Prove you're a bigger man than me, and shut your cake hole when it comes to me. Stop being such a goddamn little bitch and stop insulting others on GFY for no reason at all, and stop disrupting threads for no reason. Grow up for fuck sakes. I'm not interested in anything you have to say. If you want a truce, stop insulting me. That's it, thats all.

You really are this fucking stupid.

Diomed 12-12-2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20320121)
You are picking out particular posts I make to certain people and neglecting 100s of other posts.

I treat each and every gfyer like they treat me, only x2. if you are nice and respectful, I go out of my way to respond in kind. If you carry on an adult debate with me, I do the same.

if you joke around, I joke back

if you poke, I poke back.

it's all on the fucking record. you might want to take a look at threads I start and various gfyers I chat with prior to making such assumptions.

as for slapass and direct fiesta, they are butthurt over something I've posted in the past and have continually drive-by trolled me since, as mentioned, I've participated in their threads in an respectful way during that time only to have that ignored while still being trolled.

I've decided to handle that accordingly.

Wah wah.

You clearly have disdain for anyone with a conflicting opinion to that of your own. Just letting you know everytime I see your posts you sound ignorant, angry, and utterly without humility.

You also spend a lot of time on this board.

But go drink some more beers and party at the clubz you clever clever rock star you ;)

aka123 12-12-2014 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20320940)
I just did some research: turns out that American military bases are NOT considered "U.S. Soil," unlike embassies and consulates (which are). Learn something new every day! I retract my previous erroneous statement about the base he was born on. Turns out he was NOT born in the U.S. after all.

Based on your own laws quoted in here, that is irrelevant thing, as he is US citizen by birth.

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. "


" Congress says, under Title 8 of the US Code, Section 1401 defines natural born citizens as:

"Anyone born inside the United States. The person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. (This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.)

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.


Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national"


Is it just my baad Engliskhko, or is it you guys, or what is the problem in here?

aka123 12-12-2014 02:56 AM

EDIT: Based on Wikipedia that quoted law about citizenship came as a law a year after McCain's birth, and he was made as a citizen ex post facto. So the argue has not been about the law per se, just that he did birth before that law. But as he got citizenship ex post facto, there is no fucking problem.

petricale 12-12-2014 03:14 AM

Does it even matter that much in the end?

Magnetron 12-12-2014 08:27 AM

Sissy fight

slap slap slappity slap slap

aka123 12-12-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by petricale (Post 20321440)
Does it even matter that much in the end?

Of course it matters; those republican bastards, or democrat bastards, or to whatever party the McCain belongs to. Did I already say bastards?

dyna mo 12-12-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 20321024)
Wah wah.

You clearly have disdain for anyone with a conflicting opinion to that of your own. Just letting you know everytime I see your posts you sound ignorant, angry, and utterly without humility.

You also spend a lot of time on this board.

But go drink some more beers and party at the clubz you clever clever rock star you ;)

oh look, another drive-by wannabe troll that's got lingering butthurt over my being able to form an opinion and articulate it.

I'm stoked you are interested in me and my posts here so much you've made an internet psych profile of dyna mo at teh gfy but you are just as fucking stupid as the other 3 stooges in this thread if that's your conclusion. Next time you might want to get a better idea of wtf is up

I also LOLZ at dimwit gfyers who make judgement calls on the right amount of posts to make here. FYI brainiac- YOU post here too and someone somewhere is pointing their finger at you for it too. dumbfuck.

inabon 12-12-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20320414)
As a Puerto Rican.... Can you run for President?

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. If you are born a US citizen, I would guess yes.

according to natural born clause we could.

however

Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, and they can participate in the major political parties' nominating processes. They cannot, however, vote in presidential elections.

Can a Puerto Rican be president? Justice Breyer speculates - CBS News

so i am guessing that a Puerto Rican would have to be established in one of the 50 states to be able to do so because the island would not be able to vote for him

dyna mo 12-12-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 20321024)
Wah wah.

You clearly have disdain for anyone with a conflicting opinion to that of your own. Just letting you know everytime I see your posts you sound ignorant, angry, and utterly without humility.

You also spend a lot of time on this board.

But go drink some more beers and party at the clubz you clever clever rock star you ;)

the funny part of your post? it's the fact that you feel compelled to post a negative off-topic pointless and worthless post about how negative you've concluded I am.

You know how fucking stupid that is right?

Oh, right, you do not.

:1orglaugh

Rochard 12-12-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20320940)
I just did some research: turns out that American military bases are NOT considered "U.S. Soil," unlike embassies and consulates (which are). Learn something new every day! I retract my previous erroneous statement about the base he was born on. Turns out he was NOT born in the U.S. after all.

I didn't know this.... How interesting.

Rochard 12-12-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by inabon (Post 20321816)
according to natural born clause we could.

however

Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, and they can participate in the major political parties' nominating processes. They cannot, however, vote in presidential elections.

Can a Puerto Rican be president? Justice Breyer speculates - CBS News

so i am guessing that a Puerto Rican would have to be established in one of the 50 states to be able to do so because the island would not be able to vote for him

Puerto Ricans are US citizens? I didn't know this. I don't know much about Puerto Rico itself.

Seems there are other islands with similar status, including Northern Mariana Islands. I had no idea.

edgeprod 12-12-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123
Is it just my baad Engliskhko, or is it you guys, or what is the problem in here?

The first one. The question is if he was born in America (see topic). And, according to law, no, he was not.

edgeprod 12-12-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20321851)
Puerto Ricans are US citizens? I didn't know this. I don't know much about Puerto Rico itself.

Their votes do not count in Congress (although they do send delegates). Also, interestingly, they receive aid (welfare, etc) without the burden of paying federal taxes.

aka123 12-12-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20321871)
The first one. The question is if he was born in America (see topic). And, according to law, no, he was not.

My baad Englisko also sees that this birth issue got linked to the presidency issue, and not just being some trivial knowledge about McCain. Against that background that "Born in America" question is not the right question.

It doesn't matter whether he did born in America or not. It is the citizenship (by birth) that matters.

edgeprod 12-12-2014 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20322072)
My baad Englisko also sees that this birth issue got linked to the presidency issue, and not just being some trivial knowledge about McCain. Against that background that "Born in America" question is not the right question.

It doesn't matter whether he did born in America or not. It is the citizenship (by birth) that matters.

Not by me. I ignored that part of the thread.

2MuchMark 12-12-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20321828)
the funny part of your post? it's the fact that you feel compelled to post a negative off-topic pointless and worthless post about how negative you've concluded I am.

You know how fucking stupid that is right?

Oh, right, you do not.

:1orglaugh


dyna mo 12-12-2014 02:24 PM

good idea trying to reply for your dimwitted colleague. if y'all wannabe trolls teamed up and put your dim wits together you could maybe come up with a cogent thought.


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