Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20328876)

When did the Republicans fight again Civil rights?
They were considered Conservative because of their views towards Business which hasn't changed.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20329083)

I did not say Republicans fought against civil rights.

I said Conservatives fought against civil rights.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20328899)

If you think comparing slavery to a doughnut made sense then the hole must be in your head.

:2 cents:

Once again, stick to current history.
I don't care that your great great ancestor did anything, good or bad.

Republicans ran around like chickens with their heads cut off looking for fake birth certificates and that's who are now, not some shit from the past.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20328901)

The reason the GOP gets no credit for it is because they were not in control of the house or senate at this time. Here are the breakdowns of the votes by party and region:

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7?87 (7?93%)
Southern Republicans: 0?10 (0?100%)
Northern Democrats: 145?9 (94?6%)
Northern Republicans: 138?24 (85?15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1?20 (5?95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0?1 (0?100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45?1 (98?2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27?5 (84?16%)

It was clearly a north Vs south situation. In the end a democrat controlled house and senate passed a bill that was signed by a democrat president which means they are going to get the credit for it.

Politics is a game of what have you done for me lately. While there were some key GOP members that helped the civil rights bill get passed, right now most minorities see the republicans as the ones who want to throw them in jail and pass laws to keep them from voting.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20329595)

LOL, we all know what you meant

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20328461)

wait, so you the the people that brought us civil rights? The people that ended slavery, the people that ended the cold war?

So you are for the party that brought us condom laws?

I just hate the president, you hate the reps for about half the nation

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20328832)

I
Reagan was a good president, doesn't mean all Republican president are good either

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20329879)

Yes exactly, when I said Conservatives fought against civil rights, I meant Conservatives fought against civil rights.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20329604)

Thanks for evading the question, the facts and even the discussion



Yes, that's true, but it was clearly filibuster that last for 54 days lead by 18 democrats and only one republican that shows something. Also what Democrat Senator Strom Thurmond said about the whole thing. Him being a member of the KKK

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20327691)

YEAH and why the fuck is prostitution illegal?

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20329963)

Think about it - what do current republicans really stand for? Anti-Science, Anti-Education, Anti Green energy, Anti-voting rights, Anti-Gay, Anti-Women, Anti birth control, etc.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20330066)

That's a valid question. If a man wants to pay a woman for sex and the woman is willing to have sex with the man for $X, where is the problem?

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20330029)

In the end the group in power almost always gets the credit and/or the blame for things.

We blame Obama for things that are wrong with the country. We don't blame the republicans that hit him with a historic number of filibusters.

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 20327619)

Tucked inside there also was a bill put in at the last minute and that is no secret, actually written by Citigroup to remove the limits of Dodd-Frank legislation by removing the rules of credit default swaps.

I guess the banks are so use to writing their own legislation that they did not want the law makers screwing it up so this time they actually wrote it themselves.

Liz Warren is the only Senator having enough BALLS to speak-out and is a women.

I don't get it, we have a total bank failure 70 years ago, and it took them some 4 years to get proper legislation to keep it from happening again (glass-steagle) and they take the legislation off in 1999, they call it outdated, and it only takes them 7.5 years to bring us to the same disaster again.

Let me guess, it won't happen again because they have learned their lesson and won't do anything like that again. That is what we were told in 1999 by senator Phil Graham (who's wife was on the board of Enron).

Now we let the banks write their own legislation and Pass it without debate. If it was so straight forward and good, why did they slip it in at the very last minute before passage.

The smartest guys in the room that worked at Enron, went to work at the big banks after Enron collapsed. They seem to keep their job at the banks after they bring the same good fortune to them and us because of the American taxpayer paid off their debt.

Those smartest guys in the room seem to be hell bent on bringing the U.S. economy to the same likeness as Enron where they started. They seem to be in control. They get to author their own legislation.

Prepare for a new vaporware economy.

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20330068)

Wow. It's not hard to see why you are so dogmatic in your beliefs when you paint with such broad strokes. How do you justify making stuff up and presenting it as informed opinion?



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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20330118)

I think if you look at the Republican platform, he is not off the mark.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20330114)

Obama's fault for being a bad leader, he always worked against the GOP, naming how they were impeding his every effort instead of working with the GOP

Clinton worked with Newt, Reagan worked with Tip, no one wanted to work with Barry!

Barry wanted to blame everyone instead of taking the blame

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20329975)

Evading, so these conservatives, they GOP or Democrats?

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20329926)

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 20329979)

Weed is legal. Porn is free. Great time to be alive.

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20330228)

yeah but you need to make money from something

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20330128)

go to isidewith.com to check how you should vote
Here's what I got
Libertarians 90%
Conservative 87%
Republicans 86%
Constitution Party 86%
Democrats 41%
Green Party 33%
Socialist 5%

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20330228)

yeah but you need to make money from something

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 20330265)

Wanna buy some pot?

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20330068)

Wow. It's not hard to see why you are so dogmatic in your beliefs when you paint with such broad strokes. How do you justify making stuff up and presenting it as informed opinion?

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20330271)

Ok, fair question I guess, but am I wrong?

To clarify, not ALL republicans are that bad. Rand Paul for example seems to be moderate to center at times, vs let's say, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman who are on the extreme end of the spectrum.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20328881)

I get what your saying, you just can't back it up.

I'm not being anyone's cheerleader here, just stating facts, but if you can't debate facts, that's ok!

I became a libertarian a little while ago, I don't care for either party

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20330278)

So would someone like Bob Dole have a place in today's conservative movement and Republican party? Don't even try to say he would.

Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 20328424)

Nah... still hate em :winkwink:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20330271)

To clarify, not ALL republicans are that bad.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20330391)

WRONG.

All Republican POLITICIANS are bad. So are all Democrat POLITICIANS.

Can't you see that these two parties have held power in this country for well over a century and have worked together to cause the problems we now have.

Which is why it's so goddamned funny that they keep getting voted in over and over and over.

This year we're all mad at Democrats. So let's vote Republican.
Next election ...we're all mad at Republicans, so let's vote Democrat.

Fucking insanity.