Only if they live in my country (permanently). Otherwise this has already failed in US, Australia, and in India, etc. For instance; English folks failed to learn Indian languages (America), and same for Spanish folks. Although I guess that was the least concern for Indians. These immigrants were kinda reluctant altogether.

This shit happening in germany fears me a bit. I read in this thread "lemmings"....and that's what most of these stupids (not all germans, all those protesting now) are.....:321GFY

you are right, i was wrong to call you an idiot. you are just highly uneducated and ignorant about the topic of islam, shariya, etc.
just because the only one doing anything about the problem are the neo nazis, (the rest are too afraid to be called racist to face the problem head on, after what was only 69 years ago its understandable) doesn't mean that there is no problem. The French thought there was no problem either, the Belgiums thought so too only 2 years....if you think Germany isolated from Extreme Muslims you are even more naive then I thought.

just shut the fuck up and go penetrate a donkey

In the 90's my mother worked at some place where some Turkish people (not all) spoke... german... in france...

There is more a mimetic effect:
- people are unhappy
- these people are ready to believe that another islam can save them (or least can hurt the society in which they are underdogs <-- this is the real problem for most of these people)
- they are convinced to do shit
- TV advertize what they are doing
- new people want to copy them.

In corsica, there is 20 bombings per year, you don't hear about most of them in the other parts of France.
Some asshole made explode a waste container near my street (it was strong enough to break some windows of the neighborhood) and it was pretty hard to find news about it even if there was a lawsuit and someone injuried...

A part of the problem is how medias advertize these attacks of muslim extremists.
Some powerful people in our society WANT this problem instead of another one...
Who ? those who want to see religion as a solution...

Media's role might be important, but I don't think that there is anything deeper behind it, besides ad sales.

well it is probably me, but while we are supposed to live in the area of the "end of ideologies", there is suddently more... religions...
They are useful to control people like ideologies but they CAN'T be solutions for democracies in which the public debate is based on reflexion.

Yeah, same thing worked 75 years ago with the jews.
People need a valve to release steam, and blindly follow a movement that promises simple but radical solutions. The organizers are soulcatchers, and they do a pretty good job gathering followers who are not able to see what is going on there.

They are advised no to talk to media during the marches, for good reason.
90% of the sheeps are not able to answer the simplest questions on the topic, most of them dont even know why they are there.

It is like the organizers read the book "Hearding sheeps for dummies".
It works all the time, if you have enough parts of the population unhappy with their personal situation.

Funny that MaDalton is getting called names and uneducated, just because he is questioning and criticizing this movement.


One big argument that is being repeated all the time is, that islam (or all migration), is undermining social welfare. Social welfare in germany is working pretty good so far, something we germans can be proud of.

Problem is, that the welfare and aswell the pension systems are bound to collapse in a few decades max. And the problem is not migration, but simple demographics.
Without migration the welfare system as it is now, will just collapse sooner.

There really hasn't been or probably will never be the end of religions. You know, even from western countries there is somewhat highly religious countries like US and the "Pope countries". In less religious countries we will just assume that others are or will be the same as us, but it is probably wrong conclusion. Regarding this, the conclusion regarding certain refugees and their will to adapt, has been false too. We have made too much conclusions based on our own lifestyle, values and such. Not everybody share those, and never will.

And as everybody gets a vote in democracy, if there are enough folks with different views, that will also reflect to the legislation, customs and such.

Underdogs in europe? Well shit if you dont have any education, no language, no skills, do you really blame others for being the underdog? really wtf? living in Europe they have the same social privileges any european has, that's more then you can say about their slaughtered fellow countryman. And now they come to chop the head that feeds them?

Media has nothing to do with it. I can't educate people about this topic, I will not make anyone change their mind, but in 10 years you can come back to this thread and see that I said that whatever is happening in France today will be happening a few KM to the east or few KM to the west tomorrow.

just like a butthurt schoolboy, why am I not surprised.... I'm wondering how does the thought of penetrating a donkey comes to your mind, but Im not that intrigued so don't bother.