Don't think having to wear a big clunky vr goggle is going to replace date night at the local cinema anytime soon. :2 cents:

I was waiting for this comment :winkwink:

Date night is still safe, when Oculus rift came out I thought it looked ridiculous but that Samsung/Oculus can make a 1st gen device part of the gear range that is already this good for less that $200 you have to wonder where it will be in 5 to 6 years time.

Here's numbers that are interesting to me.

In 1999 the movie industry had about 7.5 billion in total box office revenue. They sold about 1.46 billion movie tickets worldwide. When you adjust for inflation this income totals around 10.55 billion in 2014 dollars.

In 2014 (and there are still a few days left unaccounted for) they have sold 1.259 billion tickets and had 10.227 billion in box office revenue.

So a lot of people would say it is about the same after the inflation adjustment.

Here is the interesting part. In 1999 there were 461 movies released and the average ticket price was $5.08 ($7.20 in 2014 dollars). In 2014 there have been 682 movies released and the average ticket price is $8.12.

So, in the last 15 years the industry has had to raise prices by roughly 12% and produce roughly 33% more product just to make the same amount of money.

I don't think the movie industry is in any kind of peril, but I think most people could look at these numbers and see that things aren't going in a good direction for them.

woohoo, now just every fucking new movie have to be "hacked" and "stolen" and mr obama have to be involved, and voila, making money again! ... what a fucking joke this pure shit is ... :2 cents: obama, we need a promo!

So let me get this straight.
Are you saying that you're going to invite a girl to come over and watch a movie. But the two of you are going to sit their with VR headgear on?

I might be old fashioned but the reason I invite a girl to see a movie with me is so that we can make out. Or is this VR gear a plan to just get rid of the need to actually have a woman with you on a date? (serious question not trolling)

Obviously they see where things are headed. Personally I don't blame them a single bit for what they're doing except to say that they should be far more vicious. All of the Hollywood studios, all of the record companies, all of the magazine publishers, etc.. etc.. etc.. Should get together and adopt a zero tolerance policy against piracy.

Sue literally EVERYONE. Sue the pirate that downloads the stuff illegally... Sue the store that sold him the computer... sue the store's sales rep... Sue his Internet service provider.. Sue the police for not investigating... Sue the site that he downloaded from and their owners.. Sue the site's hosting company... Sue the government for not fixing the problem.... In short SUE EVERYONE

Once the court systems are so backed up and money hungry lawyers start their feeding frenzy the piracy will come to a stop in no time at all.

interesting, but box office is just once source of total revenue. could also compare dvd sales then to online sales now and a few other things.

If the store clerk leaves the cash drawer open and someone steals the money who is at fault?

Copyright infringement of movie files being copied and unlawfully transferred is the same thing. Do something so your product cannot be copied and stop crying.

DVD sales top VHS sales for first time - Silicon Valley Business Journal

Last year consumers spent a record-breaking $16.8 billion buying and renting movies on video, up 21 percent over 2000, and more than twice what they spent on movie tickets ($8.1 billion), the group says.

Sales of Online Movies Jumps; DVDs Continue to Decline - WSJ

Digital movie purchases surged 47% last year to $1.19 billion, according to data released by Digital Entertainment Group, an industry trade group. It was the fastest-growing category as total home-entertainment revenue inched up 0.7% to $18.22 billion.

Digital growth just barely made up for ongoing declines in sales and rentals of physical discs. The total U.S. home-entertainment market remains well below its peak of more than $22 billion 2004, a drop that has squeezed the profits of every studio and led to widespread cost cutting.

As DVD Sales and Rentals Fall, Streaming Revenue Rises | TVWeek

DVD sales, however, slipped 5.5% to $8.5 billion, from almost $9 billion the previous year, while revenue from video-rental stores slumped to $1.2 billion from $1.6 billion.

I'm off to read a book ...

You only go to the movies to "make out with a girl" ? what are you 14?

Like I said date night is safe but many people like me go a couple times a week, on a Saturday when the theater is full of spotty kids playing with their phones and eating popcorn a massive screen and a better 3d experience than at the theater from my sofa is tempting.

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:error :helpme :1orglaugh

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

The courts could care less about porn -- wake up an smell the coffee ...

Who cares about cash split on the films distribution royalties the bigger point is being missed.

Google is streaming new theatrical release movies and they are encrypted -- this may turn out to be a bigger turning point in the first-run distribution chain.

As for what has already been infringed (stolen) -- that is lost. Move forward and don't repeat the mistakes.

Yea why else would I go to a movie?
There's nothing made the last 20 years that I would bother to go see.
It's the entire "get to know each other better" thing that includes dinner before the show and deserts with coffee afterwards.


A movie is cheaper than a Broadway (or off-Broadway) show plus depending on the movie she picks I get an idea of how she thinks. Also quite frankly I'm not interested in any woman that fucks on the first date. If I was interested in that I've got a list numbers of girls that I've worked with.

wow you know better than sony and paramount and 20th century fox and the ENTIRE showbiz industry! :1orglaugh I mean heres all these ultra successful multi billion dollar companies claiming piracy is pure theft and rationalization for people to feel good about "sharing" other peoples work but then YOU come along and show them how its not :1orglaugh

I mean governments all over the world make laws specifically to prohibit such behaviour and courts all over the world put in jail such people, but still YOU can see past all the bullshit and YOU know what is best for these multi billion $$ companies...well not just YOU but also millions of jobless kids world wide! :1orglaugh

show us the way oh mesiah!

did I say they did? did anyone say they did? why have you posted that? What does it have to do with your original post? Are you drunk? why would you throw that in as if my quote was anything to do with what courts think about porn?

I can imagine the court scenes now though...

why did you steal that money?

the cash register was open...

ah, our bad. you're free to go.

:1orglaugh

Real simple: if there is a lock, lock your stuff up or it will get stolen.

I guess I did not read the title of this thread as a simpleton.
Looks to me like it is about why this film was able to be webcast when it was first run -- because it was encrypted and streamed. Just like Netflix is doing now with after theatrical release. Just like we will be streaming live using this technology sooner than later.

http://www.mpaa.org/why-copyright-matters/ hasn't amounted to jack-shit in court and porn copyright gets laughed out of court. So, there is an obvious technological advance and you *(the posters) in this thread want to talk about the chump change being made on this film (currently in the red I would think).

Letting customers download your copyright porn in a copyable format is the same as my leaving a $100.00 bill in the street in front of my house -- expect it to be stolen.

It was pretty good!

if you run over car and see cock, than cams fuck off my drawer

This made me a little sad.

It's something my grandmother used to say all the time.

I think TV and the advanced technology in home entertainment have a lot more to do with Hollywood's declining revenue then piracy.

We're in the Golden era of TV. Not only in the number of channels but the quality of programming. Almost every pay channel and some basic cable channels have awesome shows (MadMen, Breaking Bad, Homeland, Newsroom, Boardwalk, House of Cards etc etc).

Netflix and Hulu allows you to watch old movies and binge watch old shows. Personally I'd rather watch 3 episodes of Homeland versus go to the theater and catch the Interview.

Back in '99 you didn't have a 75" HD TV and surround sound in your living room. Whats more attractive? Paying $50 for you and the wife to go to the theater and get popcorn/drinks and then have to deal with all of the dip shits talking, texting, feet kicking your seat. Or wait 4 months, pay $3 and stream the movie to your big screen, sit on your couch, drink beer and pause it when you have to take a piss?

On top of that the main demo for Hollywood is teenage boys. Always has been. Now those teenage boys are too busy playing Call of Duty or GTA online with their friends.

I agree fully that there are many reason for their decline in revenue including all of those that you have listed. Not to mention the internet in general. A person could (an many do) spend hours just browsing random sites, watching cat videos and looking at memes. There is a lot more competition.

Which, to me, makes piracy that much more of a big deal. They are already struggling to attract customers/viewers, when they lose some to piracy it hurts that much more.