Bloody Sunday. The season 5 finale ended powerful and sad.

Fans will have to wait for few more months before HBO releases any details about Season 6.

See you next season.

some stuff to be happy and sad about, as usual. And the Cersei thing....mixed feelings about that. I hate that bitch, but that was tough to watch.

I agree with you there.

As for Cersei... I'm a little disappointed they used a body double...

She's no stranger to nude scenes, so I don't get why they used a double. Actually, I never understand when an actress does that because essentially everyone who sees the finished product has the idea they've seen you naked. Is it maybe just for on set comfort level? As far as most of the world is concerned, unless they read that article -- that was Lena Headey completely naked.

When Jessica Alba appeared nude in Machete, I found out later they used CGI trickery. All that tells me is she doesn't have the dedication to her craft to take her clothes off for a scene, but she's okay having everyone think she did. Even worse is the fact that it's not an actual nude scene. The vital parts are covered by her arm and hips.

Any actress should be able to show her tits and whatever else the scene calls for, or get the fuck out.

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I was presuming that they may have used a body double because they would have had to take out all Lena's tattoos? I know that Emilia Clarke renegotiated her contract to have no more nude scenes.

She was pregnant when they filmed it... Body double and CGI to the rescue.

Aaah didn't know that. Thanks, Relentless! <3

The following is not in the books or the shows so it's not a spoiler... But here is my theory:

Jon Snow will be resurrected by Melisandre using the same methods thoros used to bring back berick dondarian. Snow is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryian and Ned Stark's sister (making Danerys his aunt). Melisandre knew his men would mutiny so she led stanis to die vs the boltons and returns in time to resurrect Jon snow, which frees Jon from his oath because the watch oath is only until death. The lord of light favors targeryians not baratheons.

Her tits definitely weren't that big in 300.

^^ This is what I think, too, though I didn't think through the "watch oath only until death" part. Smartness! I heard that in Book 6 we're supposed to find out more info about Jon Snow's mom. I guess that means we'll finally know if he's Dragon or Stag (I still have a nagging back-of-my-head theory he might be one of Bobby B's bastards just from his looks).

Fans have been crying and bitching and whining all over the web (but not so much here) about the final three episodes of this season. Sansa's rape (that wasn't actually shown, only the sound), the burning of Shireen (um, no actual child was harmed in the making of this episode), and now the killing of Jon Snow by the cowards of the Night's Watch. It makes me want to scream at them; people, this isn't Disney, it's HBO. And Martin's writing is edgy to begin with.

If it happened in the story, then that's how it happened. People complain because the early episodes are "too slow", "too boring", then when things really heat up they bitch because it's too intense. Seriously, where's a crossbow when I need one?

And people need to keep in mind that not all is always as it seems. As Stewart (Relentless) has pointed out, it may be that someone isn't quite dead after all. I guess we'll see next season. I'm sensing that book six isn't all that far off now, if comments floating around the web can be believed. Martin's been dicking around with a lot of other stuff in recent years, a lot of co-writes with other authors on other books, etc. People are really grumbling that it's time he sat his fat ass down and wrote more GOT.

You mean, like this - Write like the Wind by Paul and Storm



I must admit... I wish he did write a bit faster, too :)

I'm not sure what I think about this.. They threw one of the hottest chicks in the show over the railing..


Oh and JSnow... he was one of my untouchable's, next they'll kill the fucking dwarf..

Emotionally traumatized after last episode....

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I was wondering, how did Sansa and Theon survive that massive jump?

There was massive snow built up on the ground below.

You know they used a green screen for the walk of shame in the final episode.. that wasn't her body walking naked...

weird

THICK SNOW.... they landed in it

The Sansa rape was unnecessary. It did zero to move the story forward. We already knew Ramsey is terrible. We already knew Sansa is able to endure terrible hardships. We already knew Reek was broken. If that scene was deleted entirely the show would have gotten exactly the same messages across in just as impactful a manner. I believe the show would have been better if Reek took action during that scene rather than when he did later with the stable master's daughter. If they weren't going to have him take action then, they didn't need that scene at all... and it did cost them viewers. Much worse happens to Ramsey's wife in the books (though it isn't Sansa) but a book needs to be more graphic to be jarring for a reader. A visual medium like a tv show needs much less to drive emotional discourse.

The burning of the princess on the other hand was a pivotal plot point in the story. It was the moment Stanis finally chose between his loyalties and his ambitions. He chose wrong and paid the price. It was especially interesting that his choice is what cost him since his army (which was willing to follow him into battle against a much larger entrenched foe) abandoned him because of what he did.

Violence in a story is like magic in a story... Too much of it and it becomes silly. That Sansa scene would be like having a wizard in a floppy hat show up to start throwing lightning bolts at the dothraki. It was just meh... and they included it to juice viewership but ended up losing a chunk of their audience... making much the same mistake Stannis made by burning his own daughter. Their ambitions for ratings won out over their loyalties to story quality.

Awesome vid. :thumbsup

As to him writing faster, he's had a bunch of years now since his last one of the series of books. Much more than enough time, by a few years in fact. Other than some loud grumbling by idiots his true fans have been quite patient from my perspective. I know I have. But it's past time, and I'd wager Martin himself knows it.

I hope to see book six out within the next 6-10 months. You know, before the HBO series overtakes him.

Correct. If the books are any sort of guage here anyway. This occured in book 5, a little differently than in this episode mind you, but same premise. The walls of Winterfell are described as being 100 feet high, the snows had been coming down for weeks, the drifts below the walls were deep.

I'm with you in presuming Sansa survives it. I couldn't care less what happens to Theon. :D

(but I suspect he lives as well. Martin is notorious for turning villains into heroes, and vice-versa)

I know I keep referring to the books, but this is one scene that pretty much matches up with the series. The shaving of her body hair (all of it, in the book), the shape of her breasts, even her stretch marks from having kids, all were described in some detail, as was her pain, anguish, blood, ridicule, etc, that she endured.

In other words I saw her naked body clearly in my mind's eye, whether she wanted me to or not. :D

Interesting.

Wait a minute... What if Sansa will be pregnant from Ramsey in the next season? In this case that scene and inactivity of Reek were quite necessary.

It's not necessary for the characters to do anything other than what the writers need for the story. I hope they don't listen to the rape and violence whiners. Just tell your story the way you want. Everyone else can suck it and go watch CSI.

If Snow is gone, I wont watch next season. Arya stark is now blind and WHERE THE HELL is Bran stark? He was not in the season at all this year. Very dissapointing. I can care less about the other stories going on. Without the starks, I am bored of it to be honest

In the books they jump, survive the fall, meet with the Umbers and taken to Stannis's camp.

But Jon Snow is the biggest mystery.

"I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead," director David Nutter said.

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I have a strong suspicion that the Starks, at least several of them, are going to at some point make a comeback and retake the North. Bran will develop his "tree God" and warg abilities further, Rickon is still in play somewhere, Arya's blindness is temporary (at least according to the books), Sansa's story is not over with by a long shot, and as has been mentioned already in this thread Jon Snow's story may not be over yet either. (I too am hoping it isn't)

I don't know about you but I'll continue watching just to see if any of that plays out in the Starks favor as I think it will.

And before anyone decides to argue with me over my "Bran" statements, the books are absolutely rife with clues as to how the trees work, how the old tree-minder operates, and what his plans are for Bran. More than enough clues to get a pretty good notion of what is yet to come from him.

Tyrion, while not a Stark but definitely in certain ways 'Stark-friendly', may very well be the key to helping Daenarys retake Westeros and possibly eradicate slavery in the world in the bargain.

And then there's always the writer's uncanny and frustrating at times penchant for hitting us with the absolute unexpected.

I urge every fan of this show to put aside their bullshit "If such-and-such happens I'll quit watching" and just keep on watching. I really don't see this series disappointing anyone at it's end. Hell, I don't WANT it to end.

That could just be semantics. He may certainly be Dead, but that's not to say that he can't be brought back by the Red Woman.

As a friend of mine pointed out, there are 3 known dragons and Danerys can only ride one of them... Who will end up riding the other two?

Seriously? I won't watch this show anymore.

Emilia Clarke Anal Sex Scene Extended (HD) - XVIDEOS.COM

Anal!!!!

My favorite characters are Petyr Baelish and Varys. I hope they will not die.

Martin needs to stop running around with the series and sit down to write the next book.
It was sooooo much better in my imagination when I read it that I just can't take watching GOT.

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Are the episodes now 100% caught up to the last published book? Did that book also end with "The Jon Snow Scene"?

British-American actress Rebecca Van Cleave is credited as naked Cersei (Lena Headey). She was picked from over 1000 actresses who auditioned for the role of Cersei?s body.

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Give or take, by and large, yes, the series is pretty much caught up to the end of book 5.

And yes, the killing of Jon Snow occurs toward the end of the 5th book.

And I thought they were committing suicide. I remove 2 characters from list of the dead in last episode. Now - not too many died compared to complaints :)

Didn't they desert because of no chance for winning the battle?

Interesting choice. Slick dishonest types...

No. If that was their thinking they would have deserted earlier. They knew they were going to battle against a larger army entrenched at Winterfell, and they were willing to follow Stannis into battle.... until he burned his own daughter alive. :2 cents:

Why would he save her only to commit suicide a few moments later?

They're the only characters who somehow see the bigger picture I think. All others are quite shallow.

I didn't read the books, maybe it's different there.

I could see it from the POV of what Sansa said to Theon/Reek on the wall:

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Not that I think that's what they were doing -- I believe in Deus ex Snowbank and that they landed with a poof of snow. 'Course, being GOT, someone probably has a broken ankle but...

Save her in hopes to escape (before the monster returned), then notice monster returning and realize that it is too late.
Something like that.Plus that quote from above ^.
Although now I agree that it was probably not the case.

Not the way it pans out in the book: they land in snow (as said above).
But that doesn't mean much, they don't stick to the book (not even in terms of characters' death).
From what I remember, it's not even the real Sansa in Winterfel.
The bear doesn't have the deadly disease.
Cersei's daughter is still in Dorne and well (but one ear short).
And Stanis is still alive...
I must be missing some other differences but those are the ones that I clearly remember.