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CDSmith 06-17-2015 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyA (Post 20500633)
You know they used a green screen for the walk of shame in the final episode.. that wasn't her body walking naked...

weird
I know I keep referring to the books, but this is one scene that pretty much matches up with the series. The shaving of her body hair (all of it, in the book), the shape of her breasts, even her stretch marks from having kids, all were described in some detail, as was her pain, anguish, blood, ridicule, etc, that she endured.

In other words I saw her naked body clearly in my mind's eye, whether she wanted me to or not. :D

bronco67 06-17-2015 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20500674)
The Sansa rape was unnecessary. It did zero to move the story forward. We already knew Ramsey is terrible. We already knew Sansa is able to endure terrible hardships. We already knew Reek was broken. If that scene was deleted entirely the show would have gotten exactly the same messages across in just as impactful a manner. I believe the show would have been better if Reek took action during that scene rather than when he did later with the stable master's daughter. If they weren't going to have him take action then, they didn't need that scene at all... and it did cost them viewers. Much worse happens to Ramsey's wife in the books (though it isn't Sansa) but a book needs to be more graphic to be jarring for a reader. A visual medium like a tv show needs much less to drive emotional discourse.

The burning of the princess on the other hand was a pivotal plot point in the story. It was the moment Stanis finally chose between his loyalties and his ambitions. He chose wrong and paid the price. It was especially interesting that his choice is what cost him since his army (which was willing to follow him into battle against a much larger entrenched foe) abandoned him because of what he did.

Violence in a story is like magic in a story... Too much of it and it becomes silly. That Sansa scene would be like having a wizard in a floppy hat show up to start throwing lightning bolts at the dothraki. It was just meh... and they included it to juice viewership but ended up losing a chunk of their audience... making much the same mistake Stannis made by burning his own daughter. Their ambitions for ratings won out over their loyalties to story quality.
Interesting.

just a punk 06-18-2015 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20500674)
The Sansa rape was unnecessary. It did zero to move the story forward. We already knew Ramsey is terrible. We already knew Sansa is able to endure terrible hardships. We already knew Reek was broken. If that scene was deleted entirely the show would have gotten exactly the same messages across in just as impactful a manner. I believe the show would have been better if Reek took action during that scene rather than when he did later with the stable master's daughter. If they weren't going to have him take action then, they didn't need that scene at all... and it did cost them viewers. Much worse happens to Ramsey's wife in the books (though it isn't Sansa) but a book needs to be more graphic to be jarring for a reader. A visual medium like a tv show needs much less to drive emotional discourse.
Wait a minute... What if Sansa will be pregnant from Ramsey in the next season? In this case that scene and inactivity of Reek were quite necessary.

bronco67 06-18-2015 02:26 PM
It's not necessary for the characters to do anything other than what the writers need for the story. I hope they don't listen to the rape and violence whiners. Just tell your story the way you want. Everyone else can suck it and go watch CSI.

DavieVegas 06-18-2015 02:38 PM
If Snow is gone, I wont watch next season. Arya stark is now blind and WHERE THE HELL is Bran stark? He was not in the season at all this year. Very dissapointing. I can care less about the other stories going on. Without the starks, I am bored of it to be honest

Emma 06-22-2015 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20500409)
There was massive snow built up on the ground below.
In the books they jump, survive the fall, meet with the Umbers and taken to Stannis's camp.

But Jon Snow is the biggest mystery.

"I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead," director David Nutter said.

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CDSmith 06-22-2015 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 20502023)
If Snow is gone, I wont watch next season. Arya stark is now blind and WHERE THE HELL is Bran stark? He was not in the season at all this year. Very dissapointing. I can care less about the other stories going on. Without the starks, I am bored of it to be honest
I have a strong suspicion that the Starks, at least several of them, are going to at some point make a comeback and retake the North. Bran will develop his "tree God" and warg abilities further, Rickon is still in play somewhere, Arya's blindness is temporary (at least according to the books), Sansa's story is not over with by a long shot, and as has been mentioned already in this thread Jon Snow's story may not be over yet either. (I too am hoping it isn't)

I don't know about you but I'll continue watching just to see if any of that plays out in the Starks favor as I think it will.

And before anyone decides to argue with me over my "Bran" statements, the books are absolutely rife with clues as to how the trees work, how the old tree-minder operates, and what his plans are for Bran. More than enough clues to get a pretty good notion of what is yet to come from him.

Tyrion, while not a Stark but definitely in certain ways 'Stark-friendly', may very well be the key to helping Daenarys retake Westeros and possibly eradicate slavery in the world in the bargain.

And then there's always the writer's uncanny and frustrating at times penchant for hitting us with the absolute unexpected.

I urge every fan of this show to put aside their bullshit "If such-and-such happens I'll quit watching" and just keep on watching. I really don't see this series disappointing anyone at it's end. Hell, I don't WANT it to end.

RebelR 06-22-2015 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20504568)
In the books they jump, survive the fall, meet with the Umbers and taken to Stannis's camp.

But Jon Snow is the biggest mystery.

"I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead," director David Nutter said.

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That could just be semantics. He may certainly be Dead, but that's not to say that he can't be brought back by the Red Woman.

Relentless 06-23-2015 12:20 AM
As a friend of mine pointed out, there are 3 known dragons and Danerys can only ride one of them... Who will end up riding the other two?

ReggieDurango 06-23-2015 12:30 AM
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XMaster 06-23-2015 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickCashEmily (Post 20498653)
I know that Emilia Clarke renegotiated her contract to have no more nude scenes.

Seriously? I won't watch this show anymore.

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ReggieDurango 06-23-2015 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by XMaster (Post 20505412)
Seriously? I won't watch this show anymore.

Emilia Clarke Anal Sex Scene Extended (HD) - XVIDEOS.COM
Anal!!!!

Quine 06-23-2015 01:35 AM
My favorite characters are Petyr Baelish and Varys. I hope they will not die.

NatalieMojoHost 06-23-2015 01:46 AM
Martin needs to stop running around with the series and sit down to write the next book.
It was sooooo much better in my imagination when I read it that I just can't take watching GOT.

ReggieDurango 06-23-2015 02:37 AM
Spoiler don't read if you ain't done watched
 
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Originally Posted by Natalie_AC (Post 20505448)
Martin needs to stop running around with the series and sit down to write the next book.
It was sooooo much better in my imagination when I read it that I just can't take watching GOT.
Are the episodes now 100% caught up to the last published book? Did that book also end with "The Jon Snow Scene"?

LA Crew 06-23-2015 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BettingHandle (Post 20498483)

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And Cersei's walk of shame. I enjoyed very much :glugglug
British-American actress Rebecca Van Cleave is credited as naked Cersei (Lena Headey). She was picked from over 1000 actresses who auditioned for the role of Cersei?s body.

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CDSmith 06-23-2015 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 20505457)
Are the episodes now 100% caught up to the last published book? Did that book also end with "The Jon Snow Scene"?
Give or take, by and large, yes, the series is pretty much caught up to the end of book 5.

And yes, the killing of Jon Snow occurs toward the end of the 5th book.

mineistaken 06-23-2015 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20500385)
And I thought they were committing suicide. I remove 2 characters from list of the dead in last episode. Now - not too many died compared to complaints :)

mineistaken 06-23-2015 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20500674)
The burning of the princess on the other hand was a pivotal plot point in the story. It was the moment Stanis finally chose between his loyalties and his ambitions. He chose wrong and paid the price. It was especially interesting that his choice is what cost him since his army (which was willing to follow him into battle against a much larger entrenched foe) abandoned him because of what he did.
Didn't they desert because of no chance for winning the battle?

mineistaken 06-23-2015 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Quine (Post 20505444)
My favorite characters are Petyr Baelish and Varys. I hope they will not die.
Interesting choice. Slick dishonest types...

Relentless 06-23-2015 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20506066)
Didn't they desert because of no chance for winning the battle?
No. If that was their thinking they would have deserted earlier. They knew they were going to battle against a larger army entrenched at Winterfell, and they were willing to follow Stannis into battle.... until he burned his own daughter alive. :2 cents:

bronco67 06-23-2015 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20506064)
And I thought they were committing suicide. I remove 2 characters from list of the dead in last episode. Now - not too many died compared to complaints :)
Why would he save her only to commit suicide a few moments later?

Quine 06-23-2015 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20506070)
Interesting choice. Slick dishonest types...
They're the only characters who somehow see the bigger picture I think. All others are quite shallow.

I didn't read the books, maybe it's different there.

ClickCashEmily 06-24-2015 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20506345)
Why would he save her only to commit suicide a few moments later?
I could see it from the POV of what Sansa said to Theon/Reek on the wall:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/8e0122d91...wbfjo1_400.jpg

Not that I think that's what they were doing -- I believe in Deus ex Snowbank and that they landed with a poof of snow. 'Course, being GOT, someone probably has a broken ankle but...

mineistaken 06-24-2015 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20506345)
Why would he save her only to commit suicide a few moments later?
Save her in hopes to escape (before the monster returned), then notice monster returning and realize that it is too late.
Something like that.Plus that quote from above ^.
Although now I agree that it was probably not the case.

AntonMG 06-25-2015 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20506635)
Save her in hopes to escape (before the monster returned), then notice monster returning and realize that it is too late.
Something like that.Plus that quote from above ^.
Although now I agree that it was probably not the case.
Not the way it pans out in the book: they land in snow (as said above).
But that doesn't mean much, they don't stick to the book (not even in terms of characters' death).
From what I remember, it's not even the real Sansa in Winterfel.
The bear doesn't have the deadly disease.
Cersei's daughter is still in Dorne and well (but one ear short).
And Stanis is still alive...
I must be missing some other differences but those are the ones that I clearly remember.


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