What?! YOU bring it up in every single thread about police brutality as if an arrest record should excuse abuse by police. I'm not sure how you don't get it to be honest! You seem to think that the longer your police record, the less right you have to be treated as a human being. You're just wrong to always bring it up, it's not that people don't realize that.

At the point where police confront someone, the time to "just don't do it" is already past. If nobody ever did anything, there would be no police. You should be able to figure your own argument out when taking it to it's logical extreme! It's pointless to continue repeating it. Nobody brings it up because I suspect they know it's irrelevant!

Even if the banging around story is true (sounds fishy,) the banging around could actually be the guy having a seizure, trying to get attention or medical help, trying to get help in general, so on and so forth. It's difficult to hurt yourself in a permanent way, especially in a little box.

Not buying it.

Come on Tom, I was responding directly to BM specifically talking about making America safer.

I've given up giving advise regarding self preservation when someone gets arrested.

If someone wants more charges added to whatever they get stopped for or want to place their lives in the hands of cops during a take down that's their foolish decision.

But it would be interesting to see just one person on TV address the obvious wouldn't it?


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i see.


how do they know about the additional stop? is this video released?

It's only one of two possibilities and I know where I would place my bets.

You would think that in 2015 having a video camera in the back would be standard practice if for no other reason than for transporting multiple suspects.

It was just reported on CNN.

who gives a shit. look at his arrest record. he needed a beating. minus the riots those cops did us all a favor.

so you are for criminal activity :2 cents::2 cents: a criminal beating a criminal whats the difference????

just for the dindu nuffins.

4-1-15 - stolen property

3-20-15 - dealing cocaine

1-4-15 - distribution of narcotics

12-31-14 - distribution of narcotics

12-4-14 - distribution of narcotics

12-4-14 - possession of narcotics

1-25-14 - possession of narcotics over 10 grams

9-29-13 distribution of narcotics

10-5-12 - illegal gambling

5-9-12 - distribution of narcotics

8-28-10 - possession of narcotics

9-16-09 - distribution of narcotics

7-16-08 - distribution of narcotics

4-30-08 - unlawful possession (TWO COUNTS)

4-16-08 - distribution of narcotics

3-28-08 - possession of narcotics

3-20-08 - Burglary

3-20-08 - possession of narcotics

2-12-08 - distribution of narcotics

9-21-07 - distribution of narcotics

8-24-07 - manufacturing and distribution of narcotics

8-29-07 - distribution of narcotics

Black lives matter... its the facts that don't.

beating and killing is what you want? set yourself on fire

Do you think white people would give a shit if some white kid named Brendan O?Brien had a record like that and caught a beat down by the police?

why is color coming in to play???

why isn't your brain coming in to play???

you are full of it old ass bitch

Even if true, what would it change? Nothing. Finding out he indeed inflicted those injuries to himself would be the best possible outcome for the city. Otherwise you have this all to look forward to again depending on the outcome of any civil and/or criminal trials of the officers involved.

Idiot. Point out what's wrong. I was quoting Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake.


"He was dragged a bit," said Rawlings-Blake, "but then you see him using his legs to get into the van, so he was able-bodied when he was in the van, and we know that when he was finally taken out of the van, he was unresponsive."

What we know, don't know about Freddie Gray's death - CNN.com


The additional initially unreported stop is all over current news.

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i got ahead of myself im sorry u made me angry i respect your opinion

Sorry, but finding out he broke his own spine would just be bullshit.

No problem. :)


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The unreported, unscheduled stop investigation will be interesting.


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I saw the video and I'm not so sure he was "able bodied" when put into the van.
He wasn't dead or paralyzed but he didn't look so great to me.
Being able to use his legs for a few seconds with help from cops is not a solid test of someone's health.

Read that 'finding out' as incontrovertible proof - not as a cover story concocted to protect those involved. However, assume for a moment that is exactly what happened - what proof would you need in order to accept it? Video footage of him flailing about in the back of the police van before collapsing, maybe? Anything short of that will be perceived as a coverup.

My advice to the people of Baltimore would be to board up your windows and make sure your insurance premiums are paid, but don't sink a dime of your own money into fixing things until all this is well and truly over.

Ummm yea, I would. If you want the police to be judge, jury and executioner move to some 3rd world shit hole.

April 26th, 1992
There was a riot on streets
Tell me where were you?
You were sittin' home watchin' your TV

not the first case

Freddie Gray not the first to come out of Baltimore police van with serious injuries - Baltimore Sun

I moved myself and my business out of Baltimore City because of BPD. They're corrupt as fuck.

Nice link .....

The details in that link sound more like what happened than anything I have read or viewed so far.


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Of course he won't change his view. The narrative was determined the moment there was a body and facts had nothing to do with it, as per usual. It's good to be someone like the rioters, looters and brassmoneky/blackmonsters. If there is incontrovertible proof that Grau did it to himself, they will just say "it's bullshit" and further proof of corruption. If there is proof the police did it, they get to say "I told you so". It's win/win for them no matter what and their "win" comes at the expense of another city turned into a war zone and because they believe themselves to be right, they get to rationalize and justify a city being turned into a war zone. The truth is always the first casualty of conflict

Seems to be the most plausible scenario, which would also suggest that either the supposed witness was lying, or as the document was written by a BPD officer, whether that account of events was wholly or in part fabricated.

uhm... that's exactly the point I was making. Unless you hit post before finishing up what you were trying to say?

Freddie Gray not the first to come out of Baltimore police van with serious injuries - Baltimore Sun seems to sew it up

How u do dat..

And now that prisoner, who was magically never charged, is saying BPD is lying about what he said.

Just as I expected. Most likely quid pro quo. Oldest police trick in the book.