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mineistaken 05-04-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20466048)
that model has died. that's one the beauties of capitalism. even the greatest mordor-like companies can disappear literally overnight with a few missteps and changes in society.

the system that creates that antiseptic weird food is was what made them successful. it's in their dna. they can't change that.

Are you sure? I would bet most of the franchises are still profitable, based on the amount of people there. Have you heard of MANY (and as opposed to the number of openings) of them closing due to being not profitable?

Captain Kawaii 05-04-2015 11:40 AM

As long as people from Alabama have debit card. McD's is safe.

Jman 05-04-2015 11:49 AM

I tried 5 guys in Montreal, way to over hype and priced IMHO. McD's will remain the cheap place to bring your kids for a Happy Meal

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 11:49 AM

McDonald's
Burger King
Wendy's
Popeye's
Bob's Big Boy
In And Out Burger
Fat Burger
Del Taco
Taco Bell
Shake Shack
Five Guys
Roy Rogers
Dunkin' Donuts
Starbucks
Dairy Queen
Jack In The Box
Denny's
Arby's

Ah America is SOOO healthy!! LOL

sonofsam 05-04-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20466547)
McDonald's
Burger King
Wendy's
Popeye's
Bob's Big Boy
In And Out Burger
Fat Burger
Del Taco
Taco Bell
Shake Shack
Five Guys
Roy Rogers
Dunkin' Donuts
Starbucks
Dairy Queen
Jack In The Box
Denny's
Arby's

Ah America is SOOO healthy!! LOL

What about white castle?

RyuLion 05-04-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20466211)

That burger gave me a boner!

BlackCrayon 05-04-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20466573)
What about white castle?

don't forget hardee's.

TheSquealer 05-04-2015 12:48 PM

McDonalds has responded to rising health concerns in the last 2 decades by lurching around, changing products, changing menus, changing marketing campaigns, stopped aggressively marketing to kids etc etc etc.

Most importantly, what used to be a treat is now something that for the most part, you'd be ridiculed for, had you admitted to eating there. It is has been a growing symbol of obesity and shame in America. Not the hamburger... but McDonalds itself. Thats nearly impossible to undo.

From a business standpoint, they have became increasingly unfocused over the years and continue to be even more unfocused going forward. They've pretty much destroyed their identity in the last 2 decades. Like any public company, the pressure of meeting stockholder expectations with short term fixes has not kept pace with a couple decades of a changing culture. I don't see them having much of a future and I am not surprised that each new quarter is showing more and more signs of struggling. Successful businesses do exactly what they've done. They remain fanatically focused, execute flawlessly over and over and over again.. then once they've reached a certain saturation point, growth slows and stagnates and then they start lurching around trying to leverage the "power of the brand" to try new things and this always comes at the direct cost of the thing that got them there. They remind me of dunkin donuts.... now with breakfast, lunch, sandwiches, coffee etc etc etc... and have left behind the very thing that got them where they are to begin with and total failure is imminent. In the business world, it tends to take time, but their impending failure, without refocusing on their core business, is certain.

EpicPanda 05-04-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20466039)
The new CEO of McDonald's is unveiling a new master plan today to reverse the rapid decline of the most famous restaurant we all grew up with. I think they're fucked, I don't see how McDonald's can be anything than what it is, this young generation has turned its back on it - once young people decide you're not cool, bad for their image, you are MySpace.

Even if McDonald's wanted to remodel itself after Five Guys, Shake Shack etc it can't, from what I've read they couldn't even source the new/better ingredients to supply their thousands of restaurants plus they'd have to raise their prices substantially. 80% of McDonald's restaurants are franchises and the franchisees are freaking out.

Poor people can't afford shake shack and Five Guys. It'll always have its place as affordable calories. You can fill your guts for three dollars there.

MrBottomTooth 05-04-2015 01:59 PM

They need to say fuck the health nuts and start marketing to kids again. They used to advertise the shit out of those happy meals. When's the last time you seen a commercial that mentioned a happy meal toy? Hell they should be running avenger related commercials 24/7 right now with some plastic piece of shit in there.

If you think I'm kidding look at what those horrible amiibo toys have done for nintendo the past year.An extra billion in revenue.

JFK 05-04-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 20466132)
If you think McDonalds will go the way of the dinosaur, you're crazy. You'll be the dinosaur first.

WRONG, dont ever assume :2 cents:

and can I say FITTY Shit burgers :Graucho

pornmasta 05-04-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20466211)

:throwup

Seth Manson 05-04-2015 05:05 PM

Wouldnt bother me if every food place with a drivethru window went out of business.

Phoenix 05-04-2015 05:20 PM

The only thing i will eat there is the breakfast and only when it is super convenient.
just recently i almost went to a McDonalds for lunch but i noticed a grocery store across from it. We only had thirty minutes. So we bought two nice rolls some jambon ham from spain some nice cheese and some fruit juice.


Cost...about the same. Time about the same. Feeling after? Way better

MiamiBoyz 05-04-2015 06:17 PM

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Barry-xlovecam 05-04-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20466509)
The McDonald's here locally is always busy. ...

The county welfare office is busy too -- that doesn't mean it is good for you ...
We need more falafel stands *(kiosks) in the USA

https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-n...lafel-sandwich
https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-n...onalds/big-mac

look at the saturated fat and cholesterol counts ^^^
Micky-D's makes cardiologists rich.

pornmasta 05-04-2015 06:51 PM

nice site

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20466573)
What about white castle?

No, White Castle is totally healthy dude. :)

Don't take away me White Castles!!

bronco67 05-04-2015 07:29 PM

I'm going to miss my weekly McGriddle sandwich.

SilentKnight 05-04-2015 07:29 PM

The wife and I drive past McDees and go to A&W just up the road. Much better burgers and fries...the root beer is great...and they get our order right every time.

Bake 05-04-2015 07:34 PM

Here in Australia there profits are going down every year. They have changed there menu to more quality but they still are not making money like the 90's peoples taste have changed for better healthier foods and unless they spend mega bucks( which they can do ) everyone will still see them as unhealthy and uncool. They will survive in poor areas but they have already closing down in wealthy places.

Axeman 05-04-2015 07:51 PM

Like Joshua G said. They need to go back to just making good food, at a cheap price, and fast. Not crazy big menus. Nothing fancy or expensive. Even their average burgers got pricey. They need to rework that to what made them huge. Value and speed. Leave the gourmet and healthy options to other companies. Or start up another subsidiary for that option.

Kate Bi 05-05-2015 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20466783)

Scared the shit out of me :(
McD's did well for me when I was traveling in Europe with my bf and we didn't have much money/time to spend. It saved us from starving in Oslo too :)
But not in my hometown

Captain Kawaii 05-05-2015 06:49 AM

Big changes coming to Mickey D's.
Interesting their change in corporate / market structure from regions to market shares. Maybe that is a model for porn?

5 Ways McDonald's Will Change -- Soon

The Porn Nerd 05-05-2015 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20466811)
I'm going to miss my weekly McGriddle sandwich.

Actually, this thread inspired me to go to McDonald's for breakfast this morning. Two McGriddles, pancakes with sausage, 2 hash browns and some of their "coffee" (iced for max effect).

Results?

I feel like puking right NOW and am terrified of what will eventually ooze out my asshole after winding its way through my poor intestines and colon.

JESUS why did I do such a thing??? McGriddles were tasty (I'm a sucker for anything maple-flavored). Pancakes were....maple-y (good) but......meh. Hash browns were good tho greasy and the "coffee"? Well, it wasn't Starbucks (or even Dunkin' Donuts) but drinkable.

OK well my digestive system says THANKS GFY. I am guessing McDonald's will be out of business before I try that again. LOL

Tom_PM 05-05-2015 07:35 AM

In 1974 the cost of a single burger was 30 cents, that's 1.44 in today's money but you can still buy a burger for a dollar. They've just gotten away from being a place where Mom can take a night off from the kitchen. They should return to Burgers, Fries and Drinks.

Pizza places are in danger of trying to offer too much as well IMHO. Domino's dropped "pizza" from their name for the love of god.

RebelR 05-05-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20466821)
Like Joshua G said. They need to go back to just making good food, at a cheap price, and fast. Not crazy big menus. Nothing fancy or expensive. Even their average burgers got pricey. They need to rework that to what made them huge. Value and speed. Leave the gourmet and healthy options to other companies. Or start up another subsidiary for that option.

For some reason, I always imagine that In N Out Burger is what McDonalds would have been like back in the 50's and 60's before they brought out the food scientists. We need more In N Out burgers.

Bladewire 05-05-2015 08:10 AM

Just read that article Kawaii posted. New 'Homey' Menu Items include $4.99 burgers. In most places a pound of beef is less than $4 for consumers. Mcdonalds pays 30 cents for a pound of beef A POUND. I goto McDonalds maybe once or twice a year, the last time I was there the meat patty was so thin. The burger was all bun and I was like WTF. Then you goto local places, or places like Chipotle or Garbonzos and it's all totally healthy great food fresh chicken etc a half the price of McDonalds. It's all about the money @ McD's now they've fucked the consumer for too long I hope they rot in hell.

Due 05-05-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20466188)
i don't see much difference between mcdonalds or any other fast food place. its all just beef, fried chicken and fried potatoes.

Try and google how their "chicken" is made..

Captain Kawaii 05-05-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20467126)
Just read that article Kawaii posted. New 'Homey' Menu Items include $4.99 burgers. In most places a pound of beef is less than $4 for consumers. Mcdonalds pays 30 cents for a pound of beef A POUND. I goto McDonalds maybe once or twice a year, the last time I was there the meat patty was so thin. The burger was all bun and I was like WTF. Then you goto local places, or places like Chipotle or Garbonzos and it's all totally healthy great food fresh chicken etc a half the price of McDonalds. It's all about the money @ McD's now they've fucked the consumer for too long I hope they rot in hell.

:2 cents::thumbsup

For $4 I can make 4 burgers/next to no fat/from Oz or Canada or JP/ grilled toppings etc...at home. IN a very short time.

I think one of their main strategies may prove to be home delivery though. Pink slime delivered to your door. Beats gettin outta the bark-o-lounger, I guess.

They are closing 100 stores in Japan. Not surprised the country is not on their list of developing markets.

Shake Shack is coming though. They should rock this place if they deliver their burgers NYC style.

bronco67 05-05-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20467083)
Actually, this thread inspired me to go to McDonald's for breakfast this morning. Two McGriddles, pancakes with sausage, 2 hash browns and some of their "coffee" (iced for max effect).

Results?

I feel like puking right NOW and am terrified of what will eventually ooze out my asshole after winding its way through my poor intestines and colon.

JESUS why did I do such a thing??? McGriddles were tasty (I'm a sucker for anything maple-flavored). Pancakes were....maple-y (good) but......meh. Hash browns were good tho greasy and the "coffee"? Well, it wasn't Starbucks (or even Dunkin' Donuts) but drinkable.

OK well my digestive system says THANKS GFY. I am guessing McDonald's will be out of business before I try that again. LOL

The trick to having MacDonalds into your diet is moderation. I've been working on a six pack, but I still have my weekly McDonalds.

webcamnews 05-06-2015 05:25 AM

Few years ago i eat for the last time in a McDonald's and i have no regret. The only healthy product they sell is water.

Bladewire 05-06-2015 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20467298)
The trick to having MacDonalds into your diet is moderation. I've been working on a six pack, but I still have my weekly McDonalds.

What in the world do you eat there that keeps you coming back every week?

Tom_PM 05-06-2015 07:30 AM

Like I said, in 1974 a plain burger cost 30 cents, that's $1.44 in today's money, but you can buy a plain burger from their value menu today for only $1. So if you're saying that they have gotten away from low prices, welp... no. You can eat there for less money today than you could in 1974. Might be hard to swallow, but math is heartless.

Bladewire 05-06-2015 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20467875)
Like I said, in 1974 a plain burger cost 30 cents, that's $1.44 in today's money, but you can buy a plain burger from their value menu today for only $1. So if you're saying that they have gotten away from low prices, welp... no. You can eat there for less money today than you could in 1974. Might be hard to swallow, but math is heartless.


SykkBoy 05-06-2015 10:03 AM

McDonalds will still be around. While sales and profits are down, they aren't in danger of going away overnight. Even their lower profits are still better than most company's best profits.

They just need a new CEO with some fresh ideas that can scale down their menu and something that needs to be wo0rked on and has been touched on in this thread already: they need to fix their customer service. The occasional wrong order will happen, but grumpy employees, slooooooooooooow service and driving to 3 different windows is stupid. If I have to order at one window, pay at an other and pick up my food at a third, it makes it slower, not faster.

Tom_PM 05-06-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20467879)
The $1 burger

The math doesn't care what it looks like. You can, as a matter of fact, pay less for a burger today than we did in the early 70's when adjusted for inflation. McDonald's problem is not menu price. It's menu glut. They are burgers and fries, not salads and sliced fucking fruit.

MiamiBoyz 05-06-2015 11:49 AM

Perhaps this will increase sales...


http://41.media.tumblr.com/b952a898b...ebyo1_1280.jpg

bronco67 05-06-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20467865)
What in the world do you eat there that keeps you coming back every week?

McGriddle. It's so good.

arock10 05-06-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20467083)
Actually, this thread inspired me to go to McDonald's for breakfast this morning. Two McGriddles, pancakes with sausage, 2 hash browns and some of their "coffee" (iced for max effect).

Results?

I feel like puking right NOW and am terrified of what will eventually ooze out my asshole after winding its way through my poor intestines and colon.

JESUS why did I do such a thing??? McGriddles were tasty (I'm a sucker for anything maple-flavored). Pancakes were....maple-y (good) but......meh. Hash browns were good tho greasy and the "coffee"? Well, it wasn't Starbucks (or even Dunkin' Donuts) but drinkable.

OK well my digestive system says THANKS GFY. I am guessing McDonald's will be out of business before I try that again. LOL

Maybe stick to 1 meal instead of 3 next time lol


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