Kandahar massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Kandahar massacre, more precisely identified as the Panjwai massacre,[1] occurred in the early hours of March 11, 2012, when United States Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales murdered sixteen civilians and wounded six others in the Panjwayi District of Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. Nine of his victims were children, and eleven of the dead were from the same family. Some of the corpses were partially burned. Bales was taken into custody later that morning when he told authorities, "I did it". On August 23, 2013, a jury at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Fort Lewis, Washington sentenced him to life in prison without parole.[2]


He killed more then 5x more people (technically, even more then that since this guys brother might have killed part of those 3), and no one gave him the death penalty.

Your troops were in Iraq killing people as well..

Polish zone in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They were also in Afghanistan and are now in Ukraine.

you're like a newborn baby, clueless to how the world goes around. it would be cute if you were actually a baby and not an adult.

complete nonsense...when the US corporate plutocracy sends out its mercenaries and bombs, it force drafts civilians in the countries it attacks...if you force a country in to war, like the USA does, then the force drafted male civilians are not "fair game"

any country in the world has the right to defend itself against corporate plutocracy or invading armies for what ever reason, saying they are "insurgents" or whatever is just US euphemisms and propaganda...it is the USA that flies the fuck over half the globe, not the force drafted civilians...

ok the american brain wash is probably hindering you from seeing the painfully obvious truth about other countries having a right to defend themselves, you need to really really really rub your brain washed head and try to project yourself in a situation where some country x is invading 'merica, and then try to imagine non-americans (95% of the planet) having the same rage about being bombed by idiots from the other side of the world...

ok you will now probably fall in a US brain wash frenzy, all your indoctrination is screaming "but why dont they just surrender to bill clinton and the bush dynasty? dont they know 'merica has bacon???"...you will be puzzled as to why 95% of the world just does not do as it is told by mericans...

you can not understand this because freedom is something you never had...your country thinks for you :thumbsup

Didn't realize you knew him. :upsidedow

Do your American clients know you express these views?

I'm Canadian.

But I'm sure your words above sounded good in your head at the time.

Next...

dindu, we were not discussing your nationality, you said US soldiers do not target innocent civilians, and I put forward my argument that force drafted civilians are not fair game...also keep in mind that US foreign policy and decades of sanctions directly impact women and children, not just the fact that you force their male population in to war and bomb them to rubble, you also take away their future and livelyhoods, and then you move in with a puppet government and put them in debt slavery :thumbsup

being canadian does not excuse your support for US terrorism nor does it take anything away from my argument, it is just something you introduced out of sheer desperation, and you know it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

now back to the thread: dzhokhar probably killed less people than the average US soldier...I see his punishment as appropriate...attacking civilians is inexcusable even if honest honest people like the USA corporate government say otherwise and put terrorists in uniforms ect...

Since when? Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, My Lai? As far as I know, this is the only thing they can do really well :2 cents:

the fact you are bringing up ww2 shows how fucking stupid you are.

50cc pentobarbital

Difficulty keeping up with current events?

Of course I don't carry around that fact about Mcveigh. Unlike some people I like to educate myself before I speak on something. Excuse me for doing research before making a statement regarding the topic at hand.

If you didn't have the mentality of USA vs THE WORLD you could probably look at things more objectively. Nobody here is condoning what he did.

your internet psycho-babble analysis skills are weak.

i have no problem with research, in fact, more people should do it. but it's weird you claim peeps in here are ignorant on something that you confess you had to go research yourself to school us all on.

Do you mean something like this: Deh Bala wedding party airstrike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia? That was an epic win, as usually :2 cents:

well you have to admit it's a step above Russia where you kill your own people.

the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki ended the largest and most tragic war in the history of mankind and the US really didn't have to enter the European theater - by doing so it saved hundreds of thousands of Russian lives, and the same for the atomic bombs which saved untold numbers of Red Army soldiers lives.

moral equivalence arguments are almost always used by people with more blood on their hands than those they are accusing.

your examples are all terrible - My Lai was a horrific mass murder by rogue American soldiers, they weren't ordered to do it, they were tried for their crimes. That wouldn't happen in Russia, nobody in Russia would ever have even found out the names of the soldiers responsible.

The US does make mistakes in the fights it chooses, and yes there are some very unethical corporations and politicians who profit from those mistakes - and journalists and citizens call them out loudly on it when it happens. America sure isn't perfect but it's core beliefs remain the same, democracy,freedom, progress, prosperity- if the US was such a monster why do they leave Canada alone, a country filled with natural resources which has a very small military. The US allies itself with countries who share similar values.

I agree 100%

23 hours isolation but when you sleep, you dream, and that's an escape 8 hours a day :winkwink:

Is that really your argument? When you typed that out where you thinking "man this will put him in his place"

The fact that I looked up a fact on a statement you made is your argument?

Hahahaha

riiiiiight it was not stalin who marched in to berlin that ended WW2 but bombing jap fishermen in war torn crippled japan so that 1 man in a palace would officially surrender

riiiiight :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


makes perfect sense :1orglaugh by not entering the european theatre and staying aside you saved 100.000s of russian lives...and by nuking jap fishermen you saved russian lives riiiiiight

again, your psycho-babble internet analysis skills are weak. and again, it's funny to see you start your post with "so much ignorance in this thread" about shit you had to go look up before schooling all the ignorant.

I always laugh when the three american-hating muskateers always travel back to WW2 to sling shit on a message board. Reminds me of senior citizens arguing in the day room at the retirement home.

You're a clown and I hate clowns but I'll respond anyway. Without the Americans opening up a western front Hitler had the resources to keep fighting and killing Russians, add a year on to the war in Eastern Europe. The Russians don't get to Berlin in 1945 without the Allies kicking Nazi ass in Western Europe.

As for Japan, Japan wasn't surrendering, they didn't even surrender after the first nuke was dropped. Neither the Russians or US were willing to negotiate anything but a total surrender and were prepared to Home islands of Japan - the Americans estimated that American casualties would be enormous, up to a MILLION dead US soldiers to finish off Japan. Russia would have suffered huge casualties as well. So the decision was made to use the atom bombs. The best WWII historians have agreed that there was no real surrender coming from Japan, that the war would have continued on Japanese soil and have been catastrophic for both the Japanese and Americans/Russians. You know zero about any of this, stop pretending that you do.

As far as the Red Army goes, they weren't much better than the Nazis, read some Holocaust history about what they did to the Jews they 'liberated' from the death and concentration camps.

"Before the collapse of the Soviet Union led to the opening of state archives to researchers, estimates of the number of people killed under Stalin?s leadership varied dramatically, from 3 million at the lowest end, to around 60 million at the top end. Post-Soviet research has shown that the number of deaths is probably around 20 million ? still a horrific number."

Proud of that?

oh so the americans opened the western front not the allies? :1orglaugh I always thought it was the allies :1orglaugh and that the USA just took part :1orglaugh

US assumptions: IF the USA had not "opened up the western front" the russians would have lost

oh up to a MILLION would have died? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you guys lost 400.000 soldiers in WW2 total, just like shit hole yugoslavia did, but you would have, somehow, lost ONE MILLION men in war torn bombed the fuck out crippled japan?

sounds legit :thumbsup
does not sound desperate at all :thumbsup
does not make it look like hurt pride from stalin taking berlin at all :thumbsup
nukes save lives :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


and the USA went on to kill 6.000.000 (conservative estimate)

Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars? - The Washington Post

"but a conservative estimate is at least 6 millioncivilians and soldiers."

I never said we weren't somewhere killing people, and all the same I don't think we should be there either. There are no polish soldiers in Ukraine as far as I know - but the general public here is against supporting Ukraine in anyway, just our shitty communist gov't is evidently trying to poke the sleeping bear which is Russia... I am against the idea of our soldiers dieing in someone else's battle. It's stupid for Poland to aggrevate Russia and then hide behind the US if shit hits the fan. *NO ONE* here wants a war with Russia.

Do whatever it takes to get monsters like him outta here.

Agreed. We have no death penalty in my country and I fully support it. First of all, the people who execute the death sentence are became killers too. The second aspect is that lifetime in prison is actually a much more serious punishment than death. Those places are not resorts and so to the end of the life. Serial killers, child rapists etc, that's how they end up here. "Black Dolphin":