Hi Robbie,

You missed the point. Republican Senator Inhofe denying nasa and substituting his own "facts" by way of a snowball, was my answer to your question about Republicans and how facts don't matter to them. And unfortunately, The Senator's science denial is typical, not an exception.

And no I'm not denying the history of the earth, and neither is Nasa or Noaa. The history of the earth's climate reinforces the truth that things are changing very quickly now.

**********...you are acting ignorant.

The Earth's climate has changed MUCH more quickly in the past.
Take the Sahara Desert. It was once lush grasslands and there are prehistoric drawings made by ancient man of people living there and hunting and growing food.

The climate changed and it turned to desert VERY quickly.

You either didn't pay attention in school, or you are willfully "forgetting" what you were taught so you can jump onboard the insane alarmists bandwagon.

He wasn't "denying" science. He was SHOWING it to you by using a prop.

You and other alarmists are the ones in denial that you are being used by the powers that be to spread a false alarm about something that is a money maker for them.

How can you not question yourself on your beliefs when you jumped right into this topic, believing what the article said despite it being bullshit?

You have shown in this topic, that you will believe something biased on the title if it's something that agrees with your predetermined beliefs. (ie if they tell you what you want to hear you believe it)

How can you trust your own judgment when you are blatantly wrong in this topic? Much more you completely ignore all evidence which tells you that you are wrong, then go on your typical ranting on how the rest of us are all getting scammed..

No one, anywhere, ever in modern history has argued the climate is not getting warmer - so a term like "global warming denier" is disingenuous , dishonest and misleading at best. The climate has been warming for eons and that is learned in elementary school science.

Hey look over here...

I don't "believe" anything. I KNOW the earth's climate changes. I paid attention in school.

And just because YOU say it's bullshit (just like EVERYTHING that doesn't agree with you) doesn't make it bullshit.

Is it just me, or does anyone else see a direct correlation between climate change deniers and IQ. And no deniers, this is not a compliment.

You are describing EXACTLY what you are doing. I guess you are projecting your own fervent belief in the opposite way onto me.

Sorry crockett, I see this whole thing for what it is: You and ********** trying to make yourselves feel better about yourselves.

You can't do a damn thing about the earth's climate.

And even IF mankind could somehow change the weather on the Earth by CO2...then it still wouldn't change ANYTHING if we all stopped driving cars tomorrow.
As long as the govt. sends out just ONE aircraft carrier it will emit more carbon that all of our cars.

So give it a rest. You guys are a couple of blowhards.

it's just you assuming you know people's IQs and that IQ matters.

50 self professed "free thinking" zombies who have found a new faith to which they've pledges unwavering support no matter what the facts are

You know exactly what I am saying. I obviously wasn't taking about a lone Indian chat bot on a porn forum saying random shit.. You are intentionally misharacterizing the views of others... others, who for the most part are saying simply "there are some questions here as to mans contribution and the extent to which the problem is stated"

Meanwhile in other news :


Antarctic ice shelf will disappear within the next few years, says NASA | Inhabitat - Sustainable Design Innovation, Eco Architecture, Green Building



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Perhaps I worded it wrongly.
Is it just me, or do others find that all climate change deniers are stupid?
Better? I removed the ambiguous word IQ from the sentence.

who's denying climate change here?

That's the comedy of the fanaticism of the arguments. "My argument is so rock solid that I am going to play all these games to pretend you are making an argument which you aren't - then I'll make fun of you for being stupid in defending a position you never had - but... key point, my argument is rock solid"

Global climate is as normal as it's ever been since the end of the last glaciation. That is to say it is well within the range of variability over that time span.

Watching the greentards twist themselves into knots and try to dismantle industrial civilization because it is slightly warmer now than it was when they were growing up is hilarious and frightening at the same time.

Two thoughts come to mind:

- The world is being run by crazy people;

and

- The lunatics are running the asylum.

We are all doomed with these people in charge. :Oh crap


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I just read that Forbes article.

It 100% shows that the polar ICE CAPS (not just "sea ice") are just fine. Data straight from NASA

crockett and mark prince are so full of it on this.

As usual...they continue to base their fervent religious-like beliefs on OLD data. And all the new stuff that comes out? They ignore it.
Just like they ignore (or deny) the history of the Earth and it's many, many climate changes.

Uh huh...better take a look on NASA's official site, and not the regurgitated 'interpretation' of NASA's data. 2 very different things.

At least now I know who buys loafers at the shoe store. Many of you are obviously too dull to know how to tie your own laces.

Another anonymous guy on a porn message board who thinks he's smarter than the rest of us.

How shocking and unexpected.

EVERYTHING that is posted on both "sides" is "regurgitated" info to prop up people's stance.

YOU on the other hand...trying to insult my intelligence without even knowing me tells me all I need to know about you.

But since you are a science professor like mark prince is...why don't you show us all the NASA data and then "explain" it to us.

You know...it wasn't that long ago that the alarmists (such as yourself) were discounting NASA's findings because they didn't show what they wanted it too.

Just like they ignore meteorologists and any scientist who doesn't agree with them.

But now the alarmists want to use NASA to "prove" themselves right...that is until NASA finds things that don't fit the agenda.

Again...the stupidity is awesome! Forget Earth's history. Forget how many times now that the alarmists have been WRONG (starting in 1970 when Pres. Nixon was given a scientific report claiming that if something was not done right then...the entire East Coast would be underwater by the year 2000...lol)

If being smarter means accepting the data from reputable sources and not from the fringe...omg the world is a conspiracy... crowd. Then yep, guess I am smarter.

Hi Robby,

You don't get it my friend... I am AGREEING with you. The Earth has changed in the past. No one is saying it didn't.

The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change. In all cases, the same association between CO2 levels and global temperatures appear. And past examples of rapid carbon emissions (just like today) were highly destructive to life on Earth.

So did the earth's climate change in the past like you said? Of course. Was it destructive to life? Absolutely. Is it happening again? Yes. We all agree so far, right?

Maybe the last sticking point is the question of is the climate change caused by Man, or is it natural?

So here's a question for you. I think the current climate change situation is man-made. What do you think?

As Steven Tyler once sang with Aerosmith: "Dream on..."

No sorry Robbie, the Senator was making a mistake. Just because the WEATHER was cold enough outside his door that day to to create snow is not proof that the CLIMATE is not getting warmer.

Try to think of it like this. What scientists are worrying about, is the AVERAGE temperature of the earth getting warmer. Just one or 2 degrees warmer is all it takes to create some big problems, is their point.

LOL! When the Earth was warmer it wasn't "destructive to life" Life THRIVED on Earth

And for your final question...gee mark prince, based on everything I have said...what do you think?

Jesus...

Meanwhile your own govt. doesn't even really believe in it either. As you pointed out, they are full steam ahead on oil.
Looks like the leaders of your govt. are the same as the leaders of ALL govt.'s...they tell us how "man-made climate change" is going to require Carbon Credits and lots of money and has to be "solved" by citizens riding bicycles.

Meanwhile...the govt. itself ramps up their own "carbon footprint" as do all the bureaucrats who want us to "sacrifice".

I don't see how rational people can watch that and not realize what is really happening. As I said...the stupidity of this is freakin' awesome to behold.

Holy crap...you must just be trolling at this point, right?

So when it's cold outside, it means NOTHING. But when it's hot or a drought or a hurricane or a tornado (you know...the weather) then that is PROOF of "man-made climate change"

Dude...you are seriously looking foolish. The hypocrisy is massive.

here we go again!

if only Robbie agreed with me on climate change!!!!

Somehow, I was quoted in the above thread, although the quote actually came from **********. Although looks like ********** and I are on the same wavelength.

As far as our 'gov't not believing in it either', that is completely wrong. (********** and I share the same Federal gov't as well). As a citizen of Canada, in the same province as the tar sands, I can say with confidence that our gov't does believe in man-made climate change. They simply know that to take a hardline approach to decreasing carbon emissions would devastate our economy. What's smart for the environment is not always what's smart for politics.

If you wish to believe the Dr Oz's of the climate world...well so be it.

so why the need to win the man-made climate change argument then if you, your country, and your government are all in confident agreement on man-made climate change yet there's no serious/hardline effort to decrease your carbon footprint?

That's kind of like saying....if you are confident that consuming large amounts of pop is bad for you...but you still continue to drink pop....then why does it matter if you win the argument that drinking pop is bad for you.

Doing one thing doesn't cancel out the other.

Nope, but when alarmists are saying this is the GREATEST THREAT to humanity...then I would assume that the govt.'s would actually DO something.
What use is the economy if we are all dead?

But instead...the govt.'s are doing the exact OPPOSITE. Ramping up their own "carbon footprints" to new levels.

And as I said...just ONE aircraft carrier negates all of our cars.

And yet...the United States federal govt. keeps our overbloated military money machine running full throttle trying to rule the world.

As I said earlier...the govt. either:
1. Knows this is bullshit and have created a new revenue stream with "carbon credit" trading.
OR
2. Have knowledge that it's even WORSE than we are being told and that there's nothing we can do about it...so why bother to stop putting out such HUGE emissions of the "evil" CO2?

Think about that for a minute. Does it make sense for the govt. to scream about it, and then their only response is to figure out ways to make money by carbon credits without having any real effect on the so-called "problem"?

exactly my point. needing people to agree with the man-made global warming alarm ringing doesn't cancel out the man-made global warming you're claiming.

and calling people stupid about it certainly doesn't help. in fact, it hinders.

I have never said the Earth climate doesn't change.. I said the article was bullshit and like usual you run off knowing everything denying all evidence you don't like. It's comical that you consider yourself the knower of all and smarter than all the scientist whom do this stuff for a living.. Why , because you took science class in school..

Seriously dude, I have a hard time not busting out laughing when reading some of your posts.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


The amount of denial that goes on in your head is mind boggling.. You tell us all about how all the scientist in the world are in on a scam to rob us of money.. Because you know stuff.. Meanwhile the only people whom deny man made global warming are people whom make money denying. it. It's fucking comedy that you see nothing wrong with your logic.

As far as the "2014" hottest year on record" claim you should check out the research of the research this guy has done in regards to the falsification of temp data https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...south-america/

In regard to the ice shelf and more temp data falsification..

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever - Telegraph

Shit dude. You are absolutely right.

Just last week, I walked into a back room in the neighbourhood bar by mistake. What I found was amazing. A whole table load of climatoligists, local weather broadcasters and even common folk, all feverously burning newspapers, whiting out websites (yep, actually whiting them out), and so on. Their goal...erase all evidence of the 'real' temperatures reached in regions all over the world so as to perpetuate the myth of climate change.

So the "adjustments" to "real" temperature data by degrees plays no part in the claim the Earth is getting warmer by hundreds of a degree. Gotcha.. I'm a believer now. Where should I turn in all my 8 cylinder gas gusslin carbon minoxide emitters?

That's your response to facts which in part, counter your beliefs? Random gibberish?

It might seem like gibberish to you and I but to someone with IQ level as high as his it's Godspeak.

The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

NASA - What's the Difference Between Weather and Climate? | NASA
What is the difference between weather and climate?
Weather and Climate Basics
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/arctic-...s_weather.html
Weather and Climate: What's the Difference? : Discovery News

I don't know if I can believe the links your provided. These all sound a little too official. Where are the links with the 'real' information, like http://imaclimatechangedenierwholivesinthebasement.com