Actually it is you dumb fuck... I am not comparing Carbon dioxide (CO2) and Carbon Monoxide (CO)... I am talking about AIR QUALITY... I stated that in the post...:thumbsup

No. You will die because you are not getting enough oxygen.

I thought you were a science guy.


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Dude... why bother... and no i didn't get it wrong. Carbon Monoxide is expressed as CO. Carbon Dioxide is expressed as CO2.


Geezuz, are you sure you're not mad? What's with the condesending attitude? And clearly you did not read the article. While the photo may be a couple of years old, the article was written only a few days ago and references others that are only a few days to a few months old.

(I know you're just trying to hold on hard to what Fox News has taught you, but... )



Robbie a question for you: Nasa is telling us that the earth is warming up. NOAA is telling us the oceans are warming up. Both are predicting big problems unless we find a way to stop the process. Are they lying? Do they have this wrong?

Robbie - what pleasure do you get from being a man-made-climate-change denier?

You are just being a shill for big oil and the Republican Party (which is simply the law creation branch of big oil).

10 years from now you are going to realize you got this one wrong so you really should just quit while you're behind.

actually, you alarmists should quit needing everyone to agree with you.

fill us all in, what's going to happen in 10 years?

the truly bizarre part of the alarmist's pitch here is we're all supposed to agree and sing kumbayaya with them as they call peeps stupid, wrong, dumbfuck, etc.




ahahahahahahahahahahah.

1st Part: YOU deliberately posted that pic saying "3 days ago" to try and make it appear that the gulf waters are still full of oil. You were being deceptive. Which makes you a liar.

2nd Part: I DO agree that the Earth is warming up. Maybe by a couple of degrees by the time it's said and done.
I've even said it over and over when I keep pointing out what you choose to ignore: The Earth has been warming back up since 1850 after the end of "The Little Ice Age"
"We" CAN'T "find a way to stop that process". It's called nature.

Again...I'm starting to realize your education may not have been that good. But I have actually pointed this out to you over and over. I'll try one more time:

Huge warm up in global temps in the middle ages. Actually led to the Renaissance as people were no longer freezing to death in Europe and could grow more crops with the warmth and led better lives.
Big freeze followed called "The Little Ice Age". Global temps dropped down for a few hundred years.
Earth came out of the "Little Ice Age" in 1850 and the world started warming back up.

Mankind had nothing to do with ANY of that.

Take off your blinders.

Fuck you man, I'm not a liar. I said "3 days ago" because thats what the article said, which I clarified twice already. Don't you fucking call me a liar again. I've been trying to engage you in CONVERSATION and DEBATE about the issue very politely, and even extended an offer to dinner on me in Montreal if you could change my mind, and you have done nothing but insult me non-fucking stop.

You did't answer my question about Nasa and Noaa. Do you believe what they say? If you believe what right-wing media morons tell you over what Nasa tells you then there's absolutely no point in continuing the conversation with you.

You posted that pic as a way to deceive. That is lying.

And I DID answer "your" question: The Earth has been warming up since 1850. Has nothing to do with propaganda and everything to do with REAL science.
Learn to read.

You are so typical of alamists. You ignore everything except your pre-scripted agenda. And then you try to deceive and exaggerate because you can't debate the topic.

In 10 years, there will be another vague threat, the last failed prediction will be ignored and to cover up the fact that it failed to come to pass, you'll just be attacked personally and called a brainwashed idiot along with the obligatory references to Fox News and Republicans as being the source of all ills.

Go fart in a closed garage and see if it affects air quality. Cook dinner in the garage; go take a shit. Then :321GFY

Robbie:

I didn't lie, I quoted the article which you clearly did not read. You don't care for my correction that I made twice? You think I'm lying? Fine. Too bad for me I guess.

I asked you if you believe what Nasa and Noaa say. Since you're avoiding the question 3 times now, I'll assume that you believe anyone and anything else except real science, so there's no point in continuing the conversation.

Yep.

The creation of the "Boogeyman" has been very profitable for people.

They saw how much profit could be made by a "Cold War". And starting in 1970 they tried to make a new one with "Man Made Global Warming"
People didn't fall for that shit then either.

Of course the money is rolling in on "Terrorism". But so far, they haven't quite figured out a way to scare people with "Man Made Climate Change".

But you got to give them credit for their persistence.
The Alarmists have been making predictions since 1970. And they've all been 100% WRONG.

But they argue now that you can't judge the "science" by what happened in the past...even though their "science" is based on 15 year old faulty computer models. lol

Nasa says you're wrong.

No they don't. They say that the Earth has warmed over the last 150 + years.

Just like HISTORY shows us when the Earth began warming after The Little Ice Age.

How many times do I have to tell you that before you open your eyes and do some real research into history and REAL science?

NASA is doing what it's told to do by the govt. that funds it (US govt.). In case you didn't know...since the end of the Space Shuttle program, NASA has been scrambling to find relevancy as people are getting laid off and funding is running dry.

Good thing that "Man Made Global Warming" came along! :)

By the way...here is a 3 year old article in The Huffington Post (Liberal enough for you?) about NASA and their "Science"

NASA Global Warming Stance Blasted By 49 Astronauts, Scientists Who Once Worked At Agency

Read over that real quick Mark. And take your Alarmist's blinders off when you do.
If you actually THINK for a minute. Take Earth's climate history into account. And then READ that story...you might actually ponder this subject for just a second.

EDIT: Also Mark....it was just a few years back that NASA had the OPPOSITE view. And Alarmist's were saying that NASA's view meant nothing because they weren't experts in the climate.
But once the govt. got NASA on board? Guys like you are holding them up as the "proof". lol

Here's another one for you Mark, I can keep finding these all day.

"A former NASA scientist described global warming as "nonsense," dismissing the theory that climate change is a man-made problem, and advocated that it is "absolutely stupid" to blame recent UK floods on human activity, the latest reports indicate.

Going against reams of peer-reviewed scientific research that overwhelmingly states man has had a hand in climate change in our lifetime, Les Woodcock, an emeritus professor of chemical thermodynamics at the University of Manchester, told the Yorkshire Evening Post:

"The term 'climate change' is meaningless. The Earth's climate has been changing since time immemorial, that is since the Earth was formed 1,000 million years ago. The theory of 'man-made climate change' is an unsubstantiated hypothesis."

Despite overwhelming evidence from the scientific community backing the climate change claim, Woodcock stands by his argument.

"This is not the way science works," he continued to tell the Yorkshire Evening Post. "If you tell me that you have a theory there is a teapot in orbit between the Earth and the Moon, it's not up to me to prove it does not exist, it's up to you to provide the reproducible scientific evidence for your theory.""

Never mind Robbie. I never once called you any names for the positions you take, and thought it would be fun to get together for some beers with you to have the conversation in person. What did you do in return? Shit all over me. Thanks but no thanks - I'm not really interested in debating anything with you anymore.

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Study Predicts Decades Of Global Cooling Ahead | The Daily Caller

how long until the hysterical left starts implying that THESE scientists aren't REAL scientists because they're not part of the global warming cult?

I'm not calling you names. You DID post that pic with the words "3 days ago" to lead people into thinking that the picture was taken 3 days ago.
You COULD have posted the link to the article and said this was WRITTEN 3 days ago about the aftermath of the events of 4 years ago.
But you CHOSE to deceive.
Deception is lying in my book.

And I think you did it because you are so fervent in your "beliefs" that you will go to any extremes to try and "prove" them...no matter what.

I do think you want to be a "good" person. I don't find fault in you for that. And I'm not trying to "shit all over you".
And "yes", having beers with me is fun. And as an added plus...some of my natural coolness would rub off on you. :1orglaugh

I think you fucked up when you posted that pic. You thought it was okay to try and be deceptive because it was for the "good".
Well, you were wrong about that. The ends never justify the means.

Let's just put that behind us.

I have to go on location now to shoot some porn. So take a day to cool off before you banish me from your life. :)

Living in the San Fernando Valley, I know it's history, I would like to know if anyone can debate this, that the air quality is better now than it was a century ago here. Before all the cars.
Here's why
When Juan Cabrillo first entered Santa Monica Bay in 1542 , he and his crew observed great clouds of smoke over our part of Southern California. He referred to it as the "Baya de los Fumos" or "Bay of Smokes". It is said that Native Americans actually set fires periodically to control the overgrowth of vegetation.

Juan Cabrillo is my favorite explorer!

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That senile old fuck also believes in Noahs Ark and claims CO2 levels have not increased in the past 100 years.

?We can go back to great floods and Noah?s Ark in the Middle East regions which are now deserts,? he said.

"There is no reproducible scientific evidence CO2 gas even slightly increased in the last 100 years," he argued.

The latter statement is easily disproven with basic instruments. There are no complicated computer models involved in calculating atmospheric CO2. You just measure it. For pre-modern data, you use ice cores. That's it. Two centuries ago, the atmospheric concentration of CO2 was about 280 ppm. Last year it crossed the 400 ppm mark.

No wonder he is a FORMER NASA scientist.


http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_co2_history.jpg

CO is 1+1 hence the C+O. Your description would be C2O which is DiCarbon Monoxide.

Nice try on recovering but I would venture to guess 75% or more of people who believe in global warming confuse the two.

Are you aware of where the term "greenhouse gas" comes from? Let me help you out. They pump co2 into a greenhouse to increase growth. So if I had a bunch of plants in my garage and pumped CO2 in they would grow faster/better.

Robbie you do this all the time.. you throw out examples which fit your agenda but never look at the full picture.. The Earth's climate doesn't just change rapidly with out a "cause".

The Medieval Warm Period, You claim it was due to increased solar activity and less volcanic activity. We don't know for certain what caused it but lets say you are right.. lets say it's cause was more solar activity and less volcanic activity. Well gues what that is a "cause" the effect was a warming period. However it wasn't as warm as it is right now. In fact for the last 25 years our current climate has been higher than MWP.


You throw out the little ice age.. It didn't just get cold for no reason. They can't say for 100% what caused the little Ice age but the leading theory was several large volcano eruptions which took place in the tropic. It could have also been a meteor strike or excessive solar flares..

One thing is certain there was a "cause" and the effect was a rapid onset of a mini ice age. It didn't just happen "because".


Now this brings me to my point.. Right now we have no excessive solar activity, we have normal volcanic activity. Yet the Earth is warming at a very fast pace and it's not just happening "because". It's not just "happening" There is a cause.. That cause is "greenhouse gasses".


I mean seriously it's like you put half the context into your theories with out looking at the full picture.. Issac Newton said.. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. He was talking about physics but it's much the same..

It doesn't get hot or cold just "because". There is "ALWAYS" a reason.

http://i.imgur.com/mlzq2Bw.jpg


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Back to bed gramps... Some shit is just over your fucking head... In fact MOST SHIT is over your head... :thumbsup

Thanks but no thanks.

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I love children who use tiny charts to argue large issues.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2600millionSPPI.jpg

Carbon Dioxide gas levels in the atmosphere according to the NASA WEBSITE: http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide

Global land-ocean Temperature index according to the NASA WEBSITE: http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

you understand that the NASA charts you link to show an increase in CO2 between 1950 and today of 150 parts per million, right? or said another way, it went from .00035 to .00040
or said another way, at some of the lowest levels of Earth's history.

Hold me mommy, I'm scared.

And, your point is?

Its 12clicks yout are talking too, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. He doesn't have a point..

that in the real world, the rise is insignificant.

did someone who washed out of this business and is now doing god knows what (if employed at all) just explain how sharp someone else is?

son, I can buy every single thing you own with the cash I keep in my wallet.

I'd shoot myself if I were you.