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Umbalabob 10-06-2015 01:13 AM

What companies from our industry are actually really listed on the stock market? I know the holding behind XCams is. Private and AFF I think as well or? Anything more?

AmeliaG 10-06-2015 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Umbalabob (Post 20597471)
What companies from our industry are actually really listed on the stock market? I know the holding behind XCams is. Private and AFF I think as well or? Anything more?


Private has a market cap of less than half a mill. AFF/Penthouse IPO was a disaster and I believe they were kicked off the exchanges.

I would not invest in any porn company which is publicly traded, although I think many adult companies are still good private investments.

Most funds can't invest in anything adult. Much of this is because the extremely powerful CALPERS pension fund has a policy against adult. If most institutional investors can't buy, then a stock is limited in what multiple it can achieve. Doesn't matter what your strategy is or how awesome the balance sheet and income statement and growth rate are because adult stock is artificially deflated.

Any porn company which chooses to IPO, especially in the US, is just demonstrating that it's leadership doesn't understand the market or thinks the PR is worth the bother.

Shap 10-06-2015 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20597228)
I would invest in the same sites I already invest in, which are my own. And no, I'm not listing them here.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Shap 10-06-2015 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaCamChat (Post 20597233)
I make probably about a quarter to a half of what you used to make (a lot of money) not in adult industry, I'm here somewhat because I am slowly opening a webcam studio

That's Fair :thumbsup:thumbsup

mopek1 10-06-2015 04:15 AM

I honestly don't see any that convince me they'll grow or do better a few years from now. The free model is taking over slowly and while a site may profit from doing that as tubes did, MFC/CB, ... I don't know how long it will last.

Perhaps short term investing would yield a profit.

jimmycooper 10-06-2015 05:10 AM

Lelo would be my top choice.

Naughty 10-06-2015 05:22 AM

i guess i'd be broke

ReggieDurango 10-06-2015 05:27 AM

Why so many Epoch's and so few CCBills?

SpicyM 10-06-2015 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 20597131)
Streamate simply from my experience in them growing revenues so big for so long

Mojohost because a company with customer service like they provide will always grow

Blacked.com/tushy.com these sites blew me away, and I can't wait to see their next release
And
Porntube/4tube simply because these guys do it right and have a very clear vision

And if it was a controlling stake, both met-art and X-art

So you wouldn't invest in the company you established? :Oh crap

RyuLion 10-06-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20597025)
Without knowing how well each of these are doing these are the ones I would choose

Kink is a nice diversity pick. I like that.

Kink content is everywhere for free, too much work to remove lots of it.

I would invest in clubdom.com..:2 cents:

Jman 10-06-2015 08:14 AM

Porndoe
Kink
MyFreeCams
Vendo
CrakRevenue

fuzebox 10-06-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 20597165)
Bangbros

I see what you did there!

8pt-buck 10-06-2015 02:33 PM

Thread saver

http://i.imgur.com/eHRx4JG.jpg

metaverse 10-07-2015 06:15 AM

This is a great question. I'd pickup ManyVids and Chaturbate because of their steady growth. VirtualRealPorn because because its a pioneer in the VR industry and will maintain a competitive edge if they continue to improve their shooting techniques.

j3rkules 10-07-2015 08:08 AM

Netbilling.

MrPotatoBread 10-07-2015 08:12 AM

Epoch
Videosz
Netbilling
Streamate
xVideos

symtab 10-07-2015 01:20 PM

I would invest in a software company. Also there are a couple of networks i like (javbucks, nastydollars). Xhamster is also good.

Far-L 10-07-2015 06:21 PM

I honestly think a lot of you would be very disappointed and would urge better due diligence.

Seriously, most of the picks here seem based on personality and assumptions about things rather than actual earnings, current market conditions, and potential liabilities.

:2 cents:

DBS.US 10-07-2015 09:26 PM

Chaturbate Affiliate Program

Shap 10-08-2015 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20599047)
I honestly think a lot of you would be very disappointed and would urge better due diligence.

Seriously, most of the picks here seem based on personality and assumptions about things rather than actual earnings, current market conditions, and potential liabilities.

:2 cents:

Agreed. But it's just a fun discussion :)

TheSquealer 10-08-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20599047)
I honestly think a lot of you would be very disappointed and would urge better due diligence.

Seriously, most of the picks here seem based on personality and assumptions about things rather than actual earnings, current market conditions, and potential liabilities.

:2 cents:

That's what I was saying. Bad question, worse answers. Answering is an admission to understanding nothing about investing at all, in any way, on any level. Then of course, most people here have also never invested in anything beyond a cheeseburger either.

Kenny B! 10-08-2015 07:56 AM

It's a fantasy question with fantasy answers.

That cheeseburger was a much better investment than worldcom, enron and many other blue chip stocks and madoff type ponzi schemes over the last while:-)

aka123 10-08-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20596793)
I wouldn't for three reasons.

Mastercard & Visa could change the rules at any time. (Commercial Risk)

Various countries may outlaw Internet Porn or make it more difficult to access (Sovereign Risk)

Most corporate structures of big porn companies involve tax havens. (Local Taxation Risk)

1) Bigger return requirement.

2) Bigger return requirement.

3) Bigger return requirement.

trevesty 10-08-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20599047)
I honestly think a lot of you would be very disappointed and would urge better due diligence.

Seriously, most of the picks here seem based on personality and assumptions about things rather than actual earnings, current market conditions, and potential liabilities.

:2 cents:

Agreed. :thumbsup

chaze 10-08-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20596761)
Good Monday Morning To Everyone :thumbsup

Fun hypothetical question. If every adult site were a publicly listed stock. Which 5 would you invest in? There is one restriction you can only pick two of the same type of stock (ie 2 tube sites, or 2 cam sites or 2 billers).

I would find up and coming solo sites. People want original content they can't get on tubes. Something more personal.

Far-L 10-09-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20599190)
Agreed. But it's just a fun discussion :)

Agreed, I get it. I just think most people here would be losing their asses unless they were hedging bets with shorts on many of the "stocks" mentioned thus far so I had to play Devil's Advocate for a second.

If I had to pick a pay site, it would be something like Voyeur Web / redclouds which I see as a blue chip of amateur porn. I see some risk and liability with their model but not as much as I see for the tube sites with their pay sites built with stolen content.

Dating I would go with the breakout Tinder which I think of as a disruptive tech fast growth big potential stock that is steadily turning the dating game inside out.

Billing I guess Epoch would be my pic just for the moves they have made in the last couple years getting Paypal, one click cross sells, etc. I like how lean and clean Netbilling and Rocketgate run but wonder about their growth potential in the declining pay site landscape.

wehateporn 10-09-2015 03:37 PM

I'd invest $500K into Rochard's Bunny Ranch

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BAKO 10-09-2015 06:49 PM

Etology.com :-)

EliteWebmaster 10-10-2015 01:54 AM

Mindgeek
Ashley Madison (LOL no I would not, even if both my nutsacks needed it to survive)
AVN
Jasmin
Epoch
CCBill

poncabare 10-10-2015 07:51 AM

Adbrite...

adultmobile 10-11-2015 03:29 AM

Fascinating not how everyone would invest in own company, at least 2 or 3 guys missed to post own company in the list :)

Barry-xlovecam 10-11-2015 04:35 AM

Funny thread and I am not at all surprised at all by the answers ...

Far-L 10-11-2015 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20601541)
Fascinating not how everyone would invest in own company, at least 2 or 3 guys missed to post own company in the list :)

Not really. I intentionally didn't post Homegrown for several reasons. One, if everyone just posts their own company it devolves the thread into a spammy waste of time. Two, the theme of the OP was if companies were public stocks and HGV would be privately held so it would not even list on such an imaginary exchange. And three, where is the fun or imagination in doing that?

maxjohan 10-11-2015 06:08 AM

I say. XNXX guys. Are those the ones who got the Xvideos.com too?? Or other guys?

Anyways. XNXX bought XXX.com and now recently Porno.com. I had made the exact same moves if I had the money. You can't get much better adult domains than those.

Type-in traffic day and night. Smart move.

TheMaster 11-19-2015 03:41 AM

myfreecams & xvideos

jimmycooper 11-19-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20600642)
Agreed, I get it. I just think most people here would be losing their asses unless they were hedging bets with shorts on many of the "stocks" mentioned thus far so I had to play Devil's Advocate for a second.

If I had to pick a pay site, it would be something like Voyeur Web / redclouds which I see as a blue chip of amateur porn. I see some risk and liability with their model but not as much as I see for the tube sites with their pay sites built with stolen content.

Dating I would go with the breakout Tinder which I think of as a disruptive tech fast growth big potential stock that is steadily turning the dating game inside out.

Billing I guess Epoch would be my pic just for the moves they have made in the last couple years getting Paypal, one click cross sells, etc. I like how lean and clean Netbilling and Rocketgate run but wonder about their growth potential in the declining pay site landscape.

IAC just spun off all it's dating brands. I believe they own 10% of Tinder. IPO was today. Already up 22%.

Match Group Inc - MTCH - Stock Quotes
Tinder

jimmycooper 11-19-2015 11:23 AM

Tinder CEO is getting a lot of heat for this interview. I'm about to read it.

Tinder? I'm an addict, says hook-up app's co-creator and CEO Sean Rad | London Life | Lifestyle | London Evening Standard

Match Group released this statement:

The article was not approved or condoned by, and the content of the article was not reviewed by, the Company or any of its affiliates. Mr. Rad is not a director or executive officer of the Company and was not authorized to make statements on behalf of the Company for purposes of the article. The article noted that "Analysts believe the [Tinder] app, which launched in 2012, has around 80 million users worldwide and records 1.8 billion 'swipes' a day." While these statements were not made by Mr. Rad, the Company notes that they are inaccurate and directs readers to the Preliminary Prospectus, which states that for the month of September 2015, Tinder had approximately 9.6 million daily active users, with Tinder users "swiping" through an average of more than 1.4 billion user profiles each day.

On Eve of IPO, Match Group Disavows Tinder CEO Sean Rad?s Disastrous Interview

Relentless 11-19-2015 04:50 PM

Anyone who said Payoneer was correct....

Payoneer Selected by Amazon to Expand Cross-Border Payment Options in Select Countries

NETbilling 11-22-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 20596894)
Chaturbate and Netbilling. Rest are too shady or risky. Others worth investing in are outside US.

Well thank you!


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