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The Porn Nerd 10-17-2015 04:34 PM

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arock10 10-17-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20607326)
The real value of that chart is to give incentive to improve your life, get a better job and earn a better wage.

Or you can stand around bitching about the graph and whine about your entitlement.

What people from previous generations fail to understand is those quality blue collar jobs no longer exist. Sure it's possible to work 80 hours a week to better yourself but even the above average person is unlikely to do this

It's ok blame the individuals not the underlying problems, we can just keep kicking this can down the road until they rise up and murder us all.

mineistaken 10-17-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 20607447)
I'd expect they'll still continue to thrive in places like Eastern Europe though, where people are used to get massively underpaid and get terrible service, plus there's a whole new generation of obese kids who are kind of trapped into thinking that it's cool to eat there.

Prices of MCD burgers in Eastern Europe are usually even higher than in US. And average wages of people are maybe 3 times lower than in US.
MCD is not a cheap eat there, if you can eat daily, you are considered well off.
And there is no culture of eating there daily, maybe once in a while.

mineistaken 10-17-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20607631)
What people from previous generations fail to understand is those quality blue collar jobs no longer exist. Sure it's possible to work 80 hours a week to better yourself but even the above average person is unlikely to do this

It's ok blame the individuals not the underlying problems, we can just keep kicking this can down the road until they rise up and murder us all.

As if "we" are responsible for "their" low earnings? :1orglaugh

arock10 10-17-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20607639)
As if "we" are responsible for "their" low earnings? :1orglaugh

Ok so when we have automated driving cars and automated fast food restaurants and automated everything else and 35%+ unemployment in the western world do you still plan on blaming them for having no job or a barely subsistence job? or maybe we sit down like adults and admit there are some quirks to the system that need to be addressed

You may not be directly responsible for their low wage but as a society we need to deal with it sooner or later

C H R I S 10-17-2015 08:27 PM

McDonalds isnt going anywhere despite it poisoning america and the world one child at a time.

All day breakfast is actually one of the best ideas they've had in some time though, too bad Jack has been doing for 20 years.

Here in California McDonalds has to post a sign that their Food causes cancer. No shit:

http://theracketreport.com/wp-conten...15/02/348s.jpg

HugeWood 10-17-2015 08:27 PM

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C H R I S 10-17-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HugeWood (Post 20607764)



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jimmycooper 10-17-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 20607763)
McDonalds isnt going anywhere despite it poisoning america and the world one child at a time.

All day breakfast is actually one of the best ideas they've had in some time though, too bad Jack has been doing for 20 years.

Here in California McDonalds has to post a sign that their Food causes cancer. No shit:

http://theracketreport.com/wp-conten...15/02/348s.jpg

Man, i wish there was a jack in the crack in nyc. So but so so good.

JuicyBunny 10-17-2015 10:20 PM

I was in a McDonalds last night for a coffee on the way home. Place was packed...with people charging cell phones, chatting with friends and enjoying 100 yen drinks and fries.

McD's considered an untrustworthy company here. First rotten meat scandals and now they hide the main menu until you get to the counter in a strategy to make people buy the set meals.

The more the company tries the more they fail.

Spunky 10-17-2015 10:31 PM

What am I going to eat at 2 am?

OldJeff 10-18-2015 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20607631)
What people from previous generations fail to understand is those quality blue collar jobs no longer exist. Sure it's possible to work 80 hours a week to better yourself but even the above average person is unlikely to do this

It's ok blame the individuals not the underlying problems, we can just keep kicking this can down the road until they rise up and murder us all.

They don't ? Just saw an ad 3 day's ago hiring truck drivers, starting salary $74k a year.

What is not there and never has been are positions for people that clearly have no interest in actually working.

Want to fix unemployment, simple, make it better for business owners to keep production, customer service, any part of their business in the US, move all the offshore jobs back home. massive tarrifs on goods made outside the US, add social security taxes for offshore labor.

Sure people in the US would need to accept that they can't have a new IPhone every 6 months, but more people would go back to working.

Corporations have a sole purpose of earning profit, it is why people invest in them, create them, etc.

No one is born with the right to have money, have enough of anything, simple law of nature. Some win some lose, always has been, always will be

mineistaken 10-18-2015 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20607759)
Ok so when we have automated driving cars and automated fast food restaurants and automated everything else and 35%+ unemployment in the western world do you still plan on blaming them for having no job or a barely subsistence job?

Where was I talking about blaming?
I was asking why should "they" kill "us"? Why would they blame employed people for their failures?

EliteWebmaster 10-18-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 20607812)
What am I going to eat at 2 am?

In your neck of the woods, there is A&W 24hour drive thru and their stuff taste 10x better than McCrapper

VicD 10-18-2015 09:00 AM

Hopefully the reason is that people realize how fucked up McD*****s food is..

Jel 10-18-2015 04:38 PM

mcD's is a landowner first and foremost, not a food outfit.

candyflip 10-18-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 20607241)
I can not believe how many KFCs have gone under.

They just shut down a bunch here and rebuilt brand news ones. At least 5 of them.

femdomdestiny 10-18-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20607311)
Once I entered a mcd early in the day (11 am or 12 am) to get a big mac or something like that. Turned out they ONLY served breakfast sandwiches.
I, obviously, voted with my feet and bought a whopper at BK.

That breakfast seems like most stupid thing ever. Same happened to me many times and yes, it is irritating.

Sometimes I even go to drive and order something even if I know that they are serving breakfast. I feel good when I say that I don't want to order any of that breakfast shit and I drive away.

Rochard 10-18-2015 09:20 PM

I don't eat much fast food (very rarely) but it seems to me like McDonald's is old and boring - just no excitement there. Why go to McDonald's and have the same exact burger you've been eating there for the past thirty years? There is so much more competition these days when it comes to fast food. In the past your choices were McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, or a a handful of others.

Now it seems to me there is so much new competition. And McDonald's is just the same old shit it's been since the beginning of time.

Their french fries are great however.

CarlosTheGaucho 10-19-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20607637)
Prices of MCD burgers in Eastern Europe are usually even higher than in US. And average wages of people are maybe 3 times lower than in US.
MCD is not a cheap eat there, if you can eat daily, you are considered well off.
And there is no culture of eating there daily, maybe once in a while.

That's what I'm talking about - from the franchise owner's perspective, you pay your burger flipper $ 2.50 per hour yet you sell more pricey sandwiches at about $4 - $5 a piece or a menu for $ 7.

So you get an idea about the profit margins, it's no surprise many prime locations in the city centers are rented by McDonald's franchise owners.

Now the paradox is that this is pretty much an equivalent of price that you would pay in a real restaurant or bistro for real food (that's really cheap), yet that obviously doesn't prevent locals from spending money on overpriced junk food.

Rochard 10-19-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 20609254)
That's what I'm talking about - from the franchise owner's perspective, you pay your burger flipper $ 2.50 per hour yet you sell more pricey sandwiches at about $4 - $5 a piece or a menu for $ 7.

So you get an idea about the profit margins, it's no surprise many prime locations in the city centers are usually rented by McDonald's franchise owners.

Now the paradox is that this is pretty much an equivalent of price that you would you pay in a real restaurant or bistro for real food (that's really cheap), yet it obviously doesn't prevent locals from spending money on overpriced junk food.

I think the burger flippers are paid a little bit more than $2.50 an hour....

When I worked in fast food they had everything broken down by price and profit. It was amazing really. The broke down the price of every ingredient, cost of the amount of time to prepare the item, and then factored in costs of power for the grill, bun toaster, etc.

The most profitable item was soda. It cost them nothing to produce and serve, and was pretty much pure profit.

lezinterracial 10-19-2015 01:23 PM

I wonder if this is a marketing tactic. Their name in the news gets people talking about them and thinking about Big Macs.

Corporate seems to be doing okay.
Financial Statements for McDonald's Corporation - Google Finance

Looks like 1.2 billion in net income last quarter.

pornstarlet-net 10-19-2015 02:05 PM

Their prices are insane for the quality of burger. Its like Big Mac or Fresh Burger from the local Diner? People are going to real places to eat.

baddog 10-19-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20608428)
mcD's is a landowner first and foremost, not a food outfit.

Very astute observation. If you are out in the middle of nowhere and you see a sign stating "Future Home of McDonald's" buy as much surrounding land as you can afford. They know exactly what they are doing.


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