Good point, I meant to my blogs :/

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I am doing okay promoting cam and dating sites as an affiliate butt I am making real money, cash daily promoting independent escorts!

I am still making a good money with chaturbate, so if you have a quality traffic it still can make you a decent bank.

I made $9 with them so far today at under 10 uniques/day where I have no idea where it's coming from.. :upsidedow

The question is are there affiliates making good money. You think you can make 7 figures a year running a blog network and submitting galleries?

Yes and probably not. There's a certain ceiling most affiliates hit with blogs/tgps/submitting and I'd say its low to low-mid six figures. Now I wish I just got in sooner. :P

I would suggest something like this if people wanted to make some long term money.

1. License a ton of content, and build free sites where you use email as point of access.
2. Take those emails, sort out the junk, then mail them mainstream/porn offers.
3. From those who are opener/clickers sort accordingly by vertical (ex: health, diet, finance, etc).
4. At this point, you can opt to start focusing on less volume mail and more niche targeted. You could also start selling your lists off if you were so included, as there is always someone willing to pay for active, new, or legacy data out there.


Sure, you will get some who use 10 minute email and things of that nature, but you just filter that kind of crap out. Not everyone is that smart, and you would even make your own 10 minute email and advertise it on the rotating banner ads for your site. Make sure your TOS/AUP says you are going to be using their email for third party offers, and you can do whatever you want with their info as a cost of free porn.

If you can build sites and collect data and emails (double opt-in, CAN-SPAM compliant), there is a ton of ways to make money off of that. There are people willing to pay for different verticals, you can partner with different sponsors who target those niches, or you can mail them yourself. If you have a lot of one particular vertical, you can find products of your own to send them. If you have a tube or some other website generating 100's of daily LEGIT sign ups, there are people willing to pay for feeds of fresh data.

While none of this touches on mailing and delivery, you get the overall broad strokes here. Essentially this comes down to effective data management and ways to get it. From there, you have to clean it up, and do much more narrow targeted offers to them in sends. If you have the right offers, you bank. Or you can do a volume blast. Whatever your pleasure.

My point here is that if you are a webmaster who can build websites, and generate traffic to the point you can collect fresh email/sign ups, you should change your business model to one where you can create some value and start working towards a long term membership or buyer management tracking business model. Versus hoping someone comes, and buys a membership or views shit every day for free. You need to know this email address or member is interested in X, Y, Z so I am going to keep sending them more offers in line with that they are clicking, opening, buying. Easier said than done, but as I said, you get the jist of the concept.

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Pretty much.

The same basic principals are there, you just have to look at it from a different perspective. What you should really be focusing on is membership or POC (point of contact) longevity. By that I mean, find out what these people like or want and get them new offerings until they unsubscribe or stop coming around.

In the past, when someone canceled a membership, you 'might' hit them back up with a discount offer, but few bothered to do anything beyond that. You know this guy has a credit card, you know he is willing to buy online. Why are you not sending him mainstream offers? It would be common sense.

if the only way to make good money is to spam then adult affiliate marketing is dead.

There is more traffic available today to small time affiliates than ever before. You can literally buy front page ads on the biggest websites in the world for pennies and put whatever you want on it. This doesn't exist in most other industries.

Plenty of non-spam money to be made by people who can figure out creative, testing, and analytics.

This is a phenomenal business plan. It's too bad most of GFY will give up before they get to step 3, if they even start.

This actually is a good plan, it inspired me to look further into it. I want to get past step 3 fuze! :winkwink:

guess the mailing lists that every website in the world now pops and builds is "spam" ...

Agreed.

This is what most mainstream affiliates and programs focus on in a nutshell once they get an email, or information on someone. They will put it into a database and track and trial different offers over and over again until they opt-out or unsubscribe whatever. They essentially build a profile on that email address as to what is of interest to that client, and what converts. You then tailor those offers accordingly. The owner of that email address which holds LONG TERM value to any effective email marketing company or ad network who knows what to do with it via an API.

In adult, once the member cancels for the most part the webmaster or company seems to be afraid to send him other offers which "bother" or "spam" him. Um, he already canceled. You know he has a credit card and willing to buy online. Why are you not sending him new offers to try and get more sales? Any other company outside of adult does this. I have found this mindset interesting when talking to different people at the adult conferences in regard to effective email marketing, and the power of data management. Many just choose to leave that money on the table despite sinking sales. :Oh crap

While effective email marketing is one way to accomplish what I am laying out in the rough business plan suggestion above, ultimately this really comes down to data management for the long term so you can hit up those same buyers over and over again trying to sell them something. They are WILLING TO BUY if you find out what it is they want, and tailor it accordingly with the right offer.

These are the same guys, with that mindset, who were left in the dust when tubes came on the scene unfortunately. :(

Email marketing is not illegal or unethical. Almost every major company or brand does it, or tries to get your email address. Why is that?

Food for thought.

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Ok, I am going to tell you how I made $500 a day with a couple hundred uniques.
It was simple but took a lot of hard work. I was focused though.

I started in adult back in 2003 and have always down cams. Back then iFriends paid me close to $1000 a week, every week and I only had a crappy 2 bit site.

Couple of years back I decided to do review sites, I made 3. Each a little different but promoting the sponsors that pay the most.
For example ImLive currently have a promo on that pays $250 per free signup. No minimum.
I was converting review sites at around 1:60.

I spent a fuck load of time writing the reviews and paying people to review though.

it can be illegal and unethical. not sure what its like these days but im sure you remember dark mailer and all the people who used that and similar programs with trojan proxies and stolen lists to make money.

Sure. It 'could' be used for nefarious purposes, the same was a tube or any website or many applications can be if one were so inclined. But just because someone does email marketing does not mean they are not being compliant with their list sources or can-spam. the same as running a tube site does not mean all of your content is stolen.

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I guess I was loosing tons of money on my niche blogs if I've missed to ask for their e-mails in previous years.

Any advice what is best wordpress plugin to collect their emails?

thanks

there is still money in porn, but not for lazy asses

Not only that, but if you had built a niche mailing list (and maintained it) over the years, you would be able to charge people to send mailings to your lists in addition to your own offers. You would be able to essentially 'double dip'.

* Sell the List
* Mail Your Own Offers
* Send Out Email Blasts for Other Niche Webmasters Willing to Pay

Once you have data and emails you have a lot of different options.

PM sent . thanks

Mine is over $1,000 but from only 3 months. Looks like I have better to stop promoting them.

I've earned up to $7,000 a month as a TGP/MGP submitter and owner before the Tube rise and future Manwin programs screw us (for me JuggCash).

I've stop creating anything new except my Playboy blog from 2009 and went down to $1,250 a few months ago.

So I try to create a few new sites and one of them has success with Google, so last month I've made $2,500 but I think I should remove the $500 from Naughty America :(

OK, putting away my usual smart ass, there is a LOT of absolute genius in this thread.

That's how it was a decade ago. These days affiliates are shouldered with a significant risk by programs they promote. I have lost mid six digits from programs failing to pay or bankrupts processors/AVS systems. I am certain the same has happened to other affiliates.

Affiliates who build new traffic networks to explore new niches need to make similar investments in various resources from media buying to employees to reach their goals. As such the investments are similar compared to programs, but of course, the margin is better.

I think what your saying is affiliates run a risk in terms of programs going under and not paying them?

Yes, that happens. And Ive had payments that didn't come for one reason or another. Bank issues, Program closes etc (thankfully not HUGE, maybe low xx,xxx being the most at any one time) But if I look at the $$$ Ive made and then the payments I got screwed on, Id think its WELL under 0.01%. Now most of the companies I promote ares LARGE, established programs who do and have done thousands of sales a day for years, so Im lucky. Im sure guys promoting smaller, niche pay site programs deal with this more often.

I have to agree with this, I've recently started right back where I began a long time ago... As an affiliate. From an affiliate's standpoint it makes sense to go with the larger programs that you know aren't going anywhere, It even though there are some issues with saturation.

From a program owner's perspective, if you are new, it kind of sucks what a bunch of shady fuckers have done in the past are ruining your chance to come up.

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I'm not sure where you live but you should keep in mind that if you are in the US some states could go after you for that.

Still making $$. :pimp

Curated content is where it's at. The Huffington post has been doing that for almost a decade.

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i am making real money, someone is making fake money?

That's the obvious reason. The other thing that comes to my mind is exploitation and lack of loyality. I.e. some programs take methods of successful affiliates and spread the word to other, competing partners: ..... that can be pretty harmful, resulting in large financial losses since others can avoid the cost of research and development.

I'm making ok money with my promotions. But it's not easy. In between battling the ban hammer on twitter to the purge and ban hammer on tumblr, it's an uphill battle. So fat I make enough to make up the difference to make my mortgage payment and my car payment without having to put overtime. BUT it's not really where I want to be. I run blogs and white labels and it's still not easy. But the thing is to keep going because those who quit leave open space for you!

Make $3.50 ppl and $35.00 per sign up click here weekly payouts.

we still have a lot of afiliates doing significant amount every pay period

I doubt that if you can't even see that you are bumping a 4 year old thread :1orglaugh

Definitely earn money by PublisherPick

I maintain a website mostly to check how my script does seo wise. I used to make good money from PPS/RevShare however since nastydollars was sold i didnt make any sales (i had and still have the same search engine traffic for good keywords), then amakins used to make good sales, then none make good sales (same traffic), but they all buy my traffic via PPC from companies where i'm a publisher...so yeah its kinda weird :)) bumping old thread :))

yeahhhhhh

I'm good with conversational interactive non-spammy business threads like this being bumped regularly.

I think there is a whole new wave of people coming online to look at affiliate offers. You see it with these millennial owned campaigns running Facebook ads for their new "agencies" and whatnot.
It's actually funny to go through their comment section and remind everyone that porn is the most sought after product on the internet and to stop wasting time and effort scamming people into MLM programs?
I think the main thing is to stay flexible and keep testing your traffic. Even if it means going back to old projects or websites and starting them from a clean slate. Several of my old sites have links/redirects that are dead (not helping ANYONE) or have clunky code from outdated CMS.
Hell even signatures in forums are good to refresh since they stick around forever.

**Just noticed the original thread was created in 2015. Kind of a indicator how affiliate marketing isn't dead and how it's important to be patient when looking for results.
Seriously though....go fuck yourself.

Working inside the industry I can safely say that there are many affiliates doing large numbers.
However, this doesn't come without a lot of sweat and tears.
Yes the golden days are far behind us but as many have said on this thread, new ideas, products and opportunities arise every month.
Just keep your eyes open and stay consistent.

Most programs don't even bother with affiliates anymore because most affiliates can't send sales anymore

bumping non-political threads to the front page