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MetaMan 02-02-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20718480)
Sorry Mr. Trump, your card expired yesterday.

http://s29.postimg.org/h22gv6xtj/index2.jpg

Holy crap you're a loser. :1orglaugh

You're desperately posting this in multiple threads like a small depressed woman craving for attention.

dyna mo 02-02-2016 11:00 AM

MetaMan kicking hippie's asses and raising hell!

astronaut x 02-02-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20718482)
Holy crap you're a loser. :1orglaugh

You're desperately posting this in multiple threads like a small depressed woman craving for attention.

Yes, 2 threads = multiple threads....it's ok though, my card still works...

http://s23.postimg.org/sk27jk4hn/multipass.jpg

The Porn Nerd 02-02-2016 11:17 AM

C'mon (American) people! Donald Trump has always been a joke living off his daddy's money and making 'deals' that went bankrupt, etc. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think the idiot who goes, 'You're fired!' could become PRESIDENT? This is just a spoiled, egotistic Baby Boomer billionaire who thinks he can own/play with anything, including the Presidency. Spank this little child in his fat ass and send him on his way already.

You're fired Trump!!

Rochard 02-02-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20718473)
Huh?
He was born in NY. His father also in NY.

I meant to say NY.

I was born and raised in NJ. Not much of a difference really.

Rochard 02-02-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20718474)
How is 3.4 points huge and 1.2 (Trump over Rubio) just barely slipping?

Considering on the Democratic side the win is being decided by tenths of a point... 3.4 points is rather large.

crockett 02-02-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20718465)
Mike Huckabee 2008
Rick Santorum 2012
Ted Cruz 2016

As I said you guys are day dreaming.. Republicans split 75% of their votes across 3 establishment candidates. It will be Rubio or Cruz out of those 3 and once it's down to that 1 guy Trump is finished.

Trump only looks like he stands a chance now because the establishment voters are splitting their vote across 3 candidates making Trump's support look like more than it is.

He's not going to win..Yesterday was your reality check. Even if he wins the next go round he still will not beat the establishment vote.

Right now it's a 4 way race.. when it's down to 2.. He will drop out because he will still have only 25-30%.

2MuchMark 02-02-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20718317)
Loser.com now directs to Donald Trump??s Wikipedia page :1orglaugh





http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...er3n-3-web.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yanks_Todd 02-02-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20718478)
And what exactly is a better country to you? A socialist running things, religious nut jobs or career politicians?

Some of you are to funny. 99% certain that you have homo tendencies and will enjoy the impeding getting fucked of the white man. Enjoy. :thumbsup

No Trump as President. I thought that was clear. :thumbsup

MetaMan 02-02-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20718630)
No Trump as President. I thought that was clear. :thumbsup

Trumps alpha male status threatens you. You have hidden homo erotic feelings inside yourself and he scares you because fact is you aren't a real man. You tremble like a little girl when you hear his voice. But now you are secretly obsessed with him. Turned on. In fact I'm sure you're in love with him. You spend all your day discussing only him to your friends and on GFY. It's like abused wife syndrome.

Secretly you are turned on the fact he reminds you of deep seeded childhood issues where you were taught to be the lesser man you are. Let it out, we don't want to see you doing anything to yourself you would regret.

Say it with me you little dress wearing homo. CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP

artwilliams 02-02-2016 02:04 PM

Trump is a loser.

Rochard 02-02-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20718636)
Trumps alpha male status threatens you. You have hidden homo erotic feelings inside yourself and he scares you because fact is you aren't a real man. You tremble like a little girl when you hear his voice. But now you are secretly obsessed with him. Turned on. In fact I'm sure you're in love with him. You spend all your day discussing only him to your friends and on GFY. It's like abused wife syndrome.

Secretly you are turned on the fact he reminds you of deep seeded childhood issues where you were taught to be the lesser man you are. Let it out, we don't want to see you doing anything to yourself you would regret.

Say it with me you little dress wearing homo. CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP

OR

Trump is tacky.

CarlosTheGaucho 02-02-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20718326)
the donald may be out of his depth with these sharks and vipers.

Ted Cruz erased Trump's Iowa lead by spending millions on voter targeting | US news | The Guardian

The federally mandated release of expenditure filings on Sunday shows a crescendo of spending as well-funded campaigns and their allied Super Pacs bolster their digital firepower by pouring record amounts of cash into the so-called ??micro-targeting? of voters across social media with increasingly personal ads.

Cruz has deepened his ties to the little-known data analytics firm, Cambridge Analytica, directing around 20% of overall spending during the reporting period to the data scientists embedded at Cruz??s campaign headquarters in Houston.

In December, the Guardian uncovered long-standing privacy and ethical issues around the way Cambridge Analytica??s parent company had acquired detailed psychological data on tens of millions of voters using data harvested from largely unwitting Facebook users.

Very interesting

Yes this is who you're cheering for. No matter if Donald makes it or not there's something groundbreaking that he already achieved.

His presence and media bait antics managed to expose the utterly self-destructive absurdity of today.

All these crooked career politicians are 'good' as long as the media say so and as long as they are politically correct. It doesn't matter if they lie, steal, if there were people killed or impoverished because of their horrible decisions.

All of this is fine and perfectly accepted.

Somebody who straight out lied about everything and put its country and countrymen in danger, that all while being busy cashing insane checks from Wall Street (Clinton) or even one of the worst war criminals of all time (Cheney) are portrayed as 'respectable' politicians.

Yet the guy who has nothing to do with any of the above, the only one that showed true leadership during his career (as opposed to the career politicians), one with a high chance of not being in anyone's pocket is grilled by the media, labeled as 'dangerous', crucified by the debating voters (see this thread for reference) day in and day out because of the fact that he 'said' something.

Joshua G 02-02-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20718589)
As I said you guys are day dreaming.. Republicans split 75% of their votes across 3 establishment candidates. It will be Rubio or Cruz out of those 3 and once it's down to that 1 guy Trump is finished.

Trump only looks like he stands a chance now because the establishment voters are splitting their vote across 3 candidates making Trump's support look like more than it is.

He's not going to win..Yesterday was your reality check. Even if he wins the next go round he still will not beat the establishment vote.

Right now it's a 4 way race.. when it's down to 2.. He will drop out because he will still have only 25-30%.

you sure read a lot out of a state that votes for christian nutters.

Joshua G 02-02-2016 03:44 PM

you leftists are doing a shit job of pointing it out, so i will help you.

the donald, has a weakness in his right flank. & that is, frankly, the conservatives think he is a trojan horse liberal.

so an intelligent person is not suprised that Iowans, many of whom can't pronounce the name of their own state proper...(they say IIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAA instead of Iowa) had reservations for the Donald.

It is too early to write off the most popular candidate, consistent since july, after the results of a backwater state, addicted to jesus, where some counties still ban dancing. too early to say that 75% of voters are going establishment. nobody knows where the votes of dropped out candidates are going. Making assumptions, when you are a leftist, about republicans is simply comical, like me saying i understand the struggle of the black man.

maybe i'll bump some of you dumbass comments 3 weeks from now, just to point out how dumb you are.

Far-L 02-02-2016 03:54 PM

Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.

Rochard 02-02-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20718834)
Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.

That is a damn good question.

Just think - our future president might have said "Mexicans are rapists".

kane 02-02-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20718834)
Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.

A friend of mine has a theory that Trump never intended to make it this far. His theory is that Trump planned to announce, make some speeches and have a little fun getting some free publicity then put out a book and drop out of the race. When he suddenly shot to the top of the polls he was stuck. If he drops out it looks like he was making a mockery of the system and it could actually hurt him and his book sales. So he started going crazy, doing and saying things that would typically cause a politician to drop in the polls, but for some reason it didn't work. Now he is stuck in a situation where he can't drop out until he loses or is losing, but he can't make it look like he wants to lose. It's an interesting theory.

Robbie 02-02-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20718834)
In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams.

Planned Parenthood is a private organization. :)

As for a businessman being President...the Presidency is ONE branch of three equal branches.
It is the EXECUTIVE branch.

So yeah...an actual person with real life executive experience would be a great fit.

We've all seen what lifetime bureaucrats have done for us (wars, spying, 20 trillion in debt, etc.).

VRPdommy 02-02-2016 07:37 PM

Like it or not... This is a reality.

The race is in all states. While some states are stronger than others for each candidate, it is the accumulating delegates you have at the end.
If there are still 5 in the race by the end of march... trump will win this thing. Not by a large margin. Unless nobody has a clear majority, in which case it will be the biggest fight you may witness in your political life when they delegates will fight it out on the convention floor.

That can only serve to disenfranchise many voters if it comes to that. No mater who they pick, it will seem like it is non-legit and unlikely to win the general election.

Much how Hillary lost the dem run last time and probably will again.
Cruz and Rubio cant carry enough states as long as Bush takes FL, TX and Kashish takes Ohio, Penn or IN and Christie takes NJ.
Some states the winner takes all the delegates and some are proportionate to the votes.

It's the total delegate count dummies. And unless there is a clear leader after Super Tuesday, it's going to be a very bloody fight to the end at the floor of the convention.

crockett 02-02-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20718809)
you sure read a lot out of a state that votes for christian nutters.

It's not just Iowa, it's the same in all the polls. Trump, Cruz & Rubio are split in the 20's each. When the Republican establishment voters are no longer slipt, Trump stands no chance.

As I said he only looks ok now because it's always been a 4 to 3-way race. Doesn't matter if its national or specific states. It's the same percentages.

Far-L 02-02-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719005)
Planned Parenthood is a private organization. :)

As for a businessman being President...the Presidency is ONE branch of three equal branches.
It is the EXECUTIVE branch.

So yeah...an actual person with real life executive experience would be a great fit.

We've all seen what lifetime bureaucrats have done for us (wars, spying, 20 trillion in debt, etc.).


"Planned Parenthood has received federal funding since 1970
, when President Richard Nixon signed into law the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act, amending the Public Health Service Act."

Boeing is a company too but that doesn't mean that most of its money doesn't come from the Federal Government too.

Also "Executive" of business and "Executive" in politics differ in many ways. That should be obvious. You could try and say that the legislative branch is like shareholders but that would be just as misleading as saying Trump will make a great President because he was a great businessman. What do you mean by "real life experience"? Being able to build golf courses in places by bending local governments to violate people's land rights somehow is going to make him a great president? How?

TampaToker 02-02-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719005)
Planned Parenthood is a private organization. :)

As for a businessman being President...the Presidency is ONE branch of three equal branches.
It is the EXECUTIVE branch.

So yeah...an actual person with real life executive experience would be a great fit.

We've all seen what lifetime bureaucrats have done for us (wars, spying, 20 trillion in debt, etc.).

20 Trillion? lets try 101 trillion and growing! Thats about $884k per taxpayer :Oh crap

Robbie 02-02-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20719070)

"Planned Parenthood has received federal funding since 1970
, when President Richard Nixon signed into law the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act, amending the Public Health Service Act."

Boeing is a company too but that doesn't mean that most of its money doesn't come from the Federal Government too.

Also "Executive" of business and "Executive" in politics differ in many ways. That should be obvious. You could try and say that the legislative branch is like shareholders but that would be just as misleading as saying Trump will make a great President because he was a great businessman. What do you mean by "real life experience"? Being able to build golf courses in places by bending local governments to violate people's land rights somehow is going to make him a great president? How?

Getting federal funding doesn't make it a government program as you insinuated in your post.

As for Boeing...yeah, they build stuff for the military and get paid. Big difference.

And yes, I do mean owning and running a company makes you an executive. You're acting dumb about this because you just don't like Trump.

No need to make foolish statements. Just say: "I don't like the guy and I don't think he'll make a good President".
Everything else you are saying is pure foolishness...especially the parts where you feign to not understand the difference between "real life" (you know, the shit WE do...making a living) as opposed to lifetime/career bureaucrats who are not much more than leeches living off of the taxpayer teat.

Nobody gives a fuck what my opinion is. And trust me...nobody cares about yours either.

But we can both opine anyway to our hearts content.

To me you look really dumb saying an actual executive isn't qualified to run the executive branch of govt.
And that's my opinion.

Far-L 02-02-2016 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719092)
Getting federal funding doesn't make it a government program as you insinuated in your post.

As for Boeing...yeah, they build stuff for the military and get paid. Big difference.

And yes, I do mean owning and running a company makes you an executive. You're acting dumb about this because you just don't like Trump.

No need to make foolish statements. Just say: "I don't like the guy and I don't think he'll make a good President".
Everything else you are saying is pure foolishness...especially the parts where you feign to not understand the difference between "real life" (you know, the shit WE do...making a living) as opposed to lifetime/career bureaucrats who are not much more than leeches living off of the taxpayer teat.

Nobody gives a fuck what my opinion is. And trust me...nobody cares about yours either.

But we can both opine anyway to our hearts content.

To me you look really dumb saying an actual executive isn't qualified to run the executive branch of govt.
And that's my opinion.

You can call me foolish but show me the company that removes its chief executive every 8 years due to "ceo term limits".

You are right. Our opinions are worth nothing but it sure is not really making a suberb case for your great executive when you essentially run to the same immature logic he resorts to in order to make your point. Rather than actually trying to say anything salient about what would make him a good president, you just attack me as being "foolish".

Carter was a businessman. I thought he did a great job although most would say he was a failure. Obama, Clinton, attorney backgrounds, think they know about "real world" too. Politicians get "fired" all the time when they get taken out of office for poor performance. What is not "real life" about that? Besides getting Mexico to build a wall and killing entire families of terrorists, even innocent infants if necessary, what Trump policy / solution can you possibly identify? Or are all the right and left pundits asking that question too just foolish as well? Surprised he is not making a reality show out of his run. I always liked the way he said "you're fired".

Barry-xlovecam 02-03-2016 05:20 AM

The POTUS cannot tell a Justice of the SCOTUS "you're fired".

Government does not work that way in the USA.

The CEO of a business can only be fired by the corporation's Board of Directors and elected by the stockholders. Corporate governance is totally dissimilar from government.

The objective of a for-profit corporation is to make a profit.
The purpose of a government is to take money (taxes) for the benefit of the governed and for themselves.

When a corporation fucks-up royally it does a Chapter 11 and screws its creditors. The US government cannot declare bankruptcy. All debt is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. Government can only devalue its currency or increase debt -- it's a side-step bankruptcy -- but government screws all the people by taking the value of their assets.

So, when you say America needs to be run like a business you are just full of shit and a know nothing.

If the USA was run like a for-profit corporation our government would be a dictatorship -- we would do what the boss says or be shot. Governments have armies with guns and can force their will on you under penalty of death -- the government is the law -- the government is the final arbitrator. This is why there is a 2nd Amendment :2 cents:

"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." -- Barnhill, John Basil (1914).

mce 02-03-2016 02:43 PM

NH is the big test for The Donald. If he wins that and SC, he might just blast through to victory.

ilnjscb 02-03-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20719290)
The POTUS cannot tell a Justice of the SCOTUS "you're fired".

Government does not work that way in the USA.

The CEO of a business can only be fired by the corporation's Board of Directors and elected by the stockholders. Corporate governance is totally dissimilar from government.

The objective of a for-profit corporation is to make a profit.
The purpose of a government is to take money (taxes) for the benefit of the governed and for themselves.

When a corporation fucks-up royally it does a Chapter 11 and screws its creditors. The US government cannot declare bankruptcy. All debt is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. Government can only devalue its currency or increase debt -- it's a side-step bankruptcy -- but government screws all the people by taking the value of their assets.

So, when you say America needs to be run like a business you are just full of shit and a know nothing.

If the USA was run like a for-profit corporation our government would be a dictatorship -- we would do what the boss says or be shot. Governments have armies with guns and can force their will on you under penalty of death -- the government is the law -- the government is the final arbitrator. This is why there is a 2nd Amendment :2 cents:

"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." -- Barnhill, John Basil (1914).

1. Neither Sanders nor Trump could actually do what they say they can do.
2. People ARE afraid of the government. Now either party is basically the same, running up debt, fighting pointless wars by throwing cash at them, and destroying civil liberties.

Rochard 02-03-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20720287)
Neither Sanders nor Trump could actually do what they say they can do.

I think is very, very true. When a President - or leader of any country for that matter - takes office, they want to accomplish certain things. However, the truth is almost no matter what they want to do, half of the people are directly opposed to it from day one. You have to sell it to the public first, Congress second, fund it, and hope that it doesn't get shot down after it's all been approved.

Obamacare is a great example. Some of us think it's good, others bad, and we seem to be split via party lines. Obama had to sell it to the public (remember the discussions about death panels?), then Congress, and still he has to defend it.

It's very easy to say "We are going to build a wall". If it was so simple to do, why haven't we do it? I mean, other than the fact it cost hundreds of billions of dollars, take a decade to build, and for the most part would be completely ineffective? It's easy to say "We are going to beat China" but... If we impose tariffs, all our electronics will cost more. We are going to beat China by paying more for our products?

ITraffic 02-04-2016 11:44 AM

The Business of Hiring a Fake Crowd for Political Campaigns - The Atlantic

Rochard 02-04-2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20720958)

That is seriously fucked up.

TampaToker 02-04-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20720958)

Kinda funny if true since Trump got he second highest vote count ever in Iowa cacus :2 cents:

Paul Markham 02-05-2016 12:01 AM

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We've all seen what lifetime bureaucrats have done for us (wars, spying, 20 trillion in debt, etc.).
Bought and paid for "lifetime bureaucrats". So going direct to the buyers makes so much sense. :upsidedow

The reason for the debt is simple. Americans don't pay enough taxes. Big business buys political power, in order to get low taxes on businesses and the wealthy, and all the government spending.

Look where Government spending ends up, taxes on companies and the rich and you'll get a clearer picture.

Paul Markham 02-05-2016 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20720308)
I think is very, very true. When a President - or leader of any country for that matter - takes office, they want to accomplish certain things. However, the truth is almost no matter what they want to do, half of the people are directly opposed to it from day one. You have to sell it to the public first, Congress second, fund it, and hope that it doesn't get shot down after it's all been approved.

Obamacare is a great example. Some of us think it's good, others bad, and we seem to be split via party lines. Obama had to sell it to the public (remember the discussions about death panels?), then Congress, and still he has to defend it.

It's very easy to say "We are going to build a wall". If it was so simple to do, why haven't we do it? I mean, other than the fact it cost hundreds of billions of dollars, take a decade to build, and for the most part would be completely ineffective? It's easy to say "We are going to beat China" but... If we impose tariffs, all our electronics will cost more. We are going to beat China by paying more for our products?

Obamacare more than any other piece of legislation exposed the problem with politics. The people would benefit hugely with a healthcare system based on what the rest of the Modern World has. They have voted for the Presidential candidates pushing for it. I believe if given a referendum the people would vote for it. Yet once the politicians got hold of it, Obamacare rather than costing less, put costs up.

A wall is buildable, politicians won't allow it. The biggest benefactors of migration are businesses.

Yes, imposing tariffs will mean paying more for imported goods. It will lower the cost of Social Benefits, crime, justice and prisons, raise taxes and lower debt. The US was great when it was a manufacturing powerhouse to the world. The slide to number two or three, won't stop while it's a sponge soaking up cheap imported goods.


On another point. People talk about % of voters for different candidates. What were the numbers for the Democrat v Republicans? That's the most interesting figures.

mce 02-05-2016 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20720958)

Seriously? So you're saying many of those people freezing their nuts and ovaries off at NH are paid attendees?

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