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MetaMan 03-09-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20760624)
Did you buy this account? I mean I have seen you around, but....damn you are boring and really bad at GFYing. Talking to you is like batting around a drunk, concussed kitten. Thanks Captain Who Cares. I live in Spain, but we are based in Seattle.

So you live in Spain (which is a beautiful country I must say)... which is a country that has a suffering economy, large youth unemployment, regions talking about separation and you obsess over American politics?

I'm hoping you're at least an American living in Spain. Even at that point it makes no sense with your obsession of an American politician.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20760627)
Where do you see that? I have talked to people face to face from a majority of the EU and have yet to find one that doesn't think he is a joke.

Everyone i know from the EU is now pro Trump especially after the migrant crisis. Same goes for random areas in social media I have seen. Your story/stories do not add up.

Rochard 03-09-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20760405)
... because all the plans and all the talk of all the politician ex- and present president turned out so great right.

Plans dont mean shit. Backbone against the establishment in Washington matters. Being able to hold your own against the influence from big corps in the White House matters. Drumpf is the only one who is used to dealing with big corps, and it at least will be tough for them to make him a puppet like every other president.
Also Drumpf is the first one in history calling out every single mainstream media outlet for what they are: Propaganda machines. When he thinks something he says it - absolutely unique.

The above is enough to see that a vote for him is always a better than for those politicians with pretty stories. And if you don't like Drumpf, see it as a protest vote against the political establishment.

I agree with this 100%.

I honestly believe that all Presidents go into the office with the best intentions. They have certain plans and goals, but once they get into office they figure out EVERYTHING is an uphill battle. And while the President fights these battles, new problems, emergencies, and scandals pop up. It will be a bridge falling (now we have to do something about infrastructure), or a hurricane hits Florida (better act fast - oh wait - the new President hasn't given any thought at all to FEMA) or some government agency the new President has never even given to consideration to is going to have a scandal that no one saw coming.

dyna mo 03-09-2016 01:24 PM

if you agreed with it 100% you wouldn't have felt the need to alter the spelling of Trump's name in it in a disparaging manner.

Rochard 03-09-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20760654)
Not what he said; not that is matters to you since this has been pointed out to you numerous times.

No, that's exactly what he said.

?When Mexico sends its people, they?re not sending their best. They?re not sending you. They?re not sending you. They?re sending people that have lots of problems, and they?re bringing those problems to us. They?re bringing drugs.They?re bringing crime. They?re rapists."

That is exactly what he said.

He said they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, and they are rapists.

420 03-09-2016 01:30 PM


MetaMan 03-09-2016 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760732)
No, that's exactly what he said.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

That is exactly what he said.

He said they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, and they are rapists.

Of course they aren't Mexico's best. You think the elites in Mexico want to pay for these people? Of course they do not. The Mexican government and the elites love that the illegals are leaving. So they don't have to pay for them.

Where else do you think drugs come from? If you don't think a shit tons of Mexicans are illegally crossing with drugs everyday your head is in the clouds.

I'm wondering if you have an answer for this:

How would Donald Trump being president cause your Lebanese wife and daughter to be deported? (makes 0 sense)

2MuchMark 03-09-2016 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760336)
Trump / Palin all the way. Hell, I might even support that just for the entertainment value alone.

Me too. I would love to see Palin asked to be his running mate. This would be enough to bring Jon Stewart out of retirement thats for sure.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20760420)
SO when Obama says in the speech that under his administration 14 million jobs were created when the real number is 9 million, you don't have a problem with that? He is not counting the first year, guess he gets a mulligan on that?

Hi Vend,

You've said this many times in the past but to be honest I don't know where you get this. Can you post some links? Here in Canadian news, we're told that the unemployment rate in the US is now less than 5%, and something like 200,000+ new jobs have been added this month, and each month beforehand. Are you saying that they are lying? Or is there some how some kind of difference when it comes to measuring jobs?

ps I'm not challenging you - I'm just asking for clarity. peace.



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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20760717)
if you agreed with it 100% you wouldn't have felt the need to alter the spelling of Trump's name in it in a disparaging manner.

#makedonalddrumphagain

dyna mo 03-09-2016 01:33 PM


dyna mo 03-09-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20760744)

i was also referring to the changing of someone's post of who they support for POTUS in that manner.

Vendzilla 03-09-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760732)
No, that's exactly what he said.

?When Mexico sends its people, they?re not sending their best. They?re not sending you. They?re not sending you. They?re sending people that have lots of problems, and they?re bringing those problems to us. They?re bringing drugs.They?re bringing crime. They?re rapists."

That is exactly what he said.

He said they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, and they are rapists.

I forget which exit poll it was that showed that Trump got high marks from Latino voters, well at least higher than expected

Rochard 03-09-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20760741)

I'm wondering if you have an answer for this:

How would Donald Drumpf being president cause your Lebanese wife and daughter to be deported? (makes 0 sense)

My wife was already denied a passport. I can imagine it would get worse under Trump.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760795)
My wife was already denied a passport. I can imagine it would get worse under Trump.

Something doesnt add up. Something you are leaving out 100%. How is she "denied a passport"?

You are an American. She is your wife. If she entered legally. You can sponsor her for a green card. (3-6 months + proof of income 24k)

After 5 years of receiving her green card. She becomes a citizen + passport.

You ARE NOT telling the whole story.

Vendzilla 03-09-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760795)
My wife was already denied a passport. I can imagine it would get worse under Trump.

Where do you get this, Trumps wife is foreign born, that would effect her.

L-Pink 03-09-2016 02:06 PM

Right now I'm living in El Paso Texas, my house is 7 miles from Mexico. I see the border everyday and a wall is already there, lol. It's enlightening to hear the locals/Hispanics discussing Trump and immigration. These are professionals, legal residents not afraid to voice their opinions. For the most part they agree with Trump on immigration.

The complex legal immigration process, years and years of waiting to legally become US citizens is being ignored, circumvented by criminals and opportunists. Honest productive, law abiding people/familys are waiting while all sorts of people illegally enter. It pisses them off.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20760870)
Right now I'm living in El Paso Texas, my house is 7 miles from Mexico. It's enlightening to hear the locals/Hispanics discussing Trump and immigration. These are professionals, legal residents not afraid to voice their opinions. For the most part they agree with Trump on immigration.

The complex legal immigration process, years and years of waiting to legally become US citizens is being ignored, circumvented by criminals and opportunists. Honest productive immigrants are waiting while all sorts of people illegally enter. It pisses them off.

Yep. Majority of people who have done it legally understand the hardship of the expierience. They wait years, spend thousands, be apart from family and then people speak about illegals receiving amnesty? Causing longer wait times for those who do it legally.

It's completetly disgusting. 0 respect for the law.

Why would i feel sorry for people who have already spent years with family because they entered the USA illegally. All the energy should be those that had to endure hardships and still respect the law.

Im still waiting on Rochard to explain his magical situation where his wife cant get a passporte and will be deported along woth his daughter under trump.

I can already take guesses but wont post a guess.

Dvae 03-09-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760354)
I am not ranting or raving; I am just stunned that Americans fall for this. "Mexicans are raptists" and "we need to stop Muslims from entering the country" and "We are going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it". This is all nonsense.

Your right, all Mexicans are Mexicans and all rapists are rapists - wasn't that what you said in another thread?

Rochard 03-09-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20760834)
Something doesnt add up. Something you are leaving out 100%. How is she "denied a passport"?

You are an American. She is your wife. If she entered legally. You can sponsor her for a green card. (3-6 months + proof of income 24k)

After 5 years of receiving her green card. She becomes a citizen + passport.

You ARE NOT telling the whole story.

My wife was born in the United States, so there is no argument about her citizenship. There is no green card involved. We applied for a passport shortly after 9/11 - we did together. I got mine, hers was denied. We've tried twice since then. All three times we were told her paperwork was in order, but it was denied.

xKingx 03-09-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758893)
You are stunned that people are "allowed" to vote for whom they wish?

Well...I guess you have a point. The media and the establishment have tried to destroy him since the day he announced.

Maybe you forgot that the govt. of the United States is supposed to be "We the People of the United States"
Not "We the ruled over by the handpicked nominees of the ruling party establishment".

I don't understand how you can openly wish to be ruled by the same people who have spied on us, drove our country into debt, started war after war, and enriched themselves at the expense of the rest of us.

I guess you think you are right. But man...you are so wrong if you think we should all be sheep and just accept what they tell us to do.

Trump was not ALLOWED, he is being VOTED for by the PEOPLE.

They will have another chance in the general election to vote again. And I predict the establishment is going to double down on the already unprecedented attacks on Trump.

Maybe you will be happy and they will still be able to pull a last minute miracle and install their handpicked ruler over the people's wishes.
Maybe Hillary will win. Maybe they will have to fix the votes. Or maybe they will do something far more deadly.

And then you can be happy. The establishment will have won and the lifetime career/bureaucrats can go back to business as usual.

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plaster 03-09-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20760783)
I forget which exit poll it was that showed that Trump got high marks from Latino voters, well at least higher than expected

Nevada:
Donald Trump Takes the Hispanic Vote in Nevada Caucuses - The Atlantic

Rochard 03-09-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20760861)
Where do you get this, Drumpfs wife is foreign born, that would effect her.

We've had this debate before..... My wife's family is Lebanese. Would they be restricted from coming to visit? I imagine it would be hard for them to prove if they are Christian or otherwise. Would they be denied?

dyna mo 03-09-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20761272)

But according to op, Hispanics will never vote for Trump.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761197)
My wife was born in the United States, so there is no argument about her citizenship. There is no green card involved. We applied for a passport shortly after 9/11 - we did together. I got mine, hers was denied. We've tried twice since then. All three times we were told her paperwork was in order, but it was denied.

You are not telling the entire story!

They legally cannot deny a USA citizen a passport unless they are a felon.

What was the reason for denial!? When they deny you they provide you with reasons.

Why don't you just come out and explain the story? Your "facts" DO NOT add up.

Joshua G 03-09-2016 05:45 PM

104 rochard inconsistencies.

i vote republican, but i dont vote. i dont care about the election until 2 candidates left, but i post political threads. & i am not a media drone, but parrot media criticisms of the donald like, a media drone.

rochard - can you even spell your own name? i hope hanging chads dont throw you off in november.

:1orglaugh

MetaMan 03-09-2016 05:52 PM

If as a USA citizen you cannot get a passport (especially for 7 years and multiple applications) you're are either a complete idiot that cannot fill out a form or you are LYING!

Your "story" of your wife wreaks!

What are these magical reasons that she would maybe be the ONLY US Citizen in legal standing not able to get their passport?

MetaMan 03-09-2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761197)
All three times we were told her paperwork was in order, but it was denied.

NO NO AND NO! That IS NOT how it works. They tell you EXACTLY why your denial happened! Stop pretending like there is a conspiracy! You are not telling the entire truth! You are picking "facts" from your situation to play victim!

I can smell it!

If you're somehow the ONE CASE where the government is breaking the law and stopping your US citizen/born wife from receiving a passport you have a multi million dollar lawsuit for discrimination you could EASILY win. There is probably a few thousand lawyers who would take your case for free.

BUT something STINKS!

oppoten 03-09-2016 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 20758815)
Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2

millions and millions!

baddog 03-09-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20760732)
No, that's exactly what he said.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

That is exactly what he said.

He said they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, and they are rapists.

I am relatively confident it would be rather easy to prove that some illegals have committed rape or not.

And I find it laughable that you are concerned that when Trump is elected your wife and child could be deported.

Rochard 03-09-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20761473)
NO NO AND NO! That IS NOT how it works. They tell you EXACTLY why your denial happened! Stop pretending like there is a conspiracy! You are not telling the entire truth! You are picking "facts" from your situation to play victim!

I can smell it!

If you're somehow the ONE CASE where the government is breaking the law and stopping your US citizen/born wife from receiving a passport you have a multi million dollar lawsuit for discrimination you could EASILY win. There is probably a few thousand lawyers who would take your case for free.

BUT something STINKS!

No, nothing at all stinks. We filed directly after 9/11 when it was a bit difficult to get a passport. They seem to be unable to verify her birth although she has a birth certificate.

Rochard 03-09-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20761461)
104 rochard inconsistencies.

i vote republican, but i dont vote. i dont care about the election until 2 candidates left, but i post political threads. & i am not a media drone, but parrot media criticisms of the donald like, a media drone.

I have voted Republican before in the past, and I usually vote. I usually do not pay much attention to an election until we have the final two candidates. But with Trump I feel a bit different.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20761461)

rochard - can you even spell your own name? i hope hanging chads dont throw you off in november.

D-I-C-K

Rochard 03-09-2016 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20761590)
I am relatively confident it would be rather easy to prove that some illegals have committed rape or not.

He didn't say "some of them are rapists". He said they are. Then he went on to say "Some of them are nice people". That implies the majority of Hispanics are rapists.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20761590)
And I find it laughable that you are concerned that when Drumpf is elected your wife and child could be deported.

You are correct, I am not concerned about this at all. She is a US citizen.

Rochard 03-09-2016 07:12 PM

Here is another lie:

"Whites killed by whites — 16%. Whites killed by blacks — 81%," said an image he shared on Twitter. Pants on Fire. Most people are killed by someone they know, and someone of the same race. The correct number for whites killed by whites was 82 percent in 2014, while the number of whites killed by blacks was 15 percent.

Doe he just make up stats?

Robbie 03-09-2016 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761632)
He didn't say "some of them are rapists". He said they are. Then he went on to say "Some of them are nice people". That implies the majority of Hispanics are rapists.

Why do you want to make yourself look so dumb? And again...don't you think you are doing your employer a disservice by doing that?

Let's explain it AGAIN to you (it's already been done about a hundred times).

Trump was talking about illegal immigrants. Period.

And it's a FACT that the human smugglers taking advantage of people in Mexico were raping the women.

Matter of fact...remember the Huffington Post going ballistic on Trump for talking about that rape?

Here is a story THEY RAN THEMSELVES in 2014:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Now Rochard...please answer just ONE question.
Do you now understand that Trump was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico? Or do you still want to embarrass yourself and the company you work for by acting like you can't comprehend that?

Wow...

TheSquealer 03-09-2016 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761620)
No, nothing at all stinks. We filed directly after 9/11 when it was a bit difficult to get a passport. They seem to be unable to verify her birth although she has a birth certificate.

Uhmm... yeah. A US Citizen, born in the USA can't get a passport and no one will tell you why. You are obviously lying. You are lying as you try to call out someone for lying. Quick, talk about the Marines!

Dvae 03-09-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761632)
He didn't say "some of them are rapists". He said they are. Then he went on to say "Some of them are nice people". That implies the majority of Hispanics are rapists.

Hillary calls black men super-predators.
No outrage from you.
By your logic on what Trump said about rapists it implies the majority of young black men are super predators.

?That speech? was a 1996 address at New Hampshire?s Keene State College in support of the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act, otherwise known as the crime bill. In her remarks, then-first lady Clinton said, ?They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called ?superpredators.? No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.?

Obama called some Mexicans gang-bangers.

Again using your logic it would imply that the majority of Mexicans are gang-bangers

We should not be encouraging illegal immigration,? he remarked to the group. ?What we should be doing is setting up a smart legal immigration system that doesn?t separate families but does focus on making sure that people who are dangerous, people who are, you know, gang-bangers, who are criminals that we?re deporting as quickly as possible.?

Robbie 03-09-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20761674)
Hillary calls black men super-predators.
No outrage from you.
By your logic on what Trump said about rapists it implies the majority of young black men are super predators.

Not only that...but Hillary also said that young blacks need to be "BROUGHT TO HEEL".

But of course Rochard won't say a damn thing about that. It's embarrassing.


Rochard 03-09-2016 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20761647)
Why do you want to make yourself look so dumb? And again...don't you think you are doing your employer a disservice by doing that?

Let's explain it AGAIN to you (it's already been done about a hundred times).

Drumpf was talking about illegal immigrants. Period.

And it's a FACT that the human smugglers taking advantage of people in Mexico were raping the women.

Matter of fact...remember the Huffington Post going ballistic on Drumpf for talking about that rape?

Here is a story THEY RAN THEMSELVES in 2014:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Now Rochard...please answer just ONE question.
Do you now understand that Drumpf was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico? Or do you still want to embarrass yourself and the company you work for by acting like you can't comprehend that?

Wow...

Where exactly did he say he was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants? Did I miss that?

He didn't say anything about ILLEGAL immigrants.

The story in the Huffington Post isn't Hispanics being rapists, but are about how people crossing the border are victims.

Rochard 03-09-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20761683)
Not only that...but Hillary also said that young blacks need to be "BROUGHT TO HEEL".

But of course Rochard won't say a damn thing about that. It's embarrassing.


Sorry, I am not a Hillary supporter. I am so not about to defend anything she does. I wish she wasn't running either.

dyna mo 03-09-2016 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20761647)
Why do you want to make yourself look so dumb? And again...don't you think you are doing your employer a disservice by doing that?

Let's explain it AGAIN to you (it's already been done about a hundred times).

Trump was talking about illegal immigrants. Period.

And it's a FACT that the human smugglers taking advantage of people in Mexico were raping the women.

Matter of fact...remember the Huffington Post going ballistic on Trump for talking about that rape?

Here is a story THEY RAN THEMSELVES in 2014:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Now Rochard...please answer just ONE question.
Do you now understand that Trump was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico? Or do you still want to embarrass yourself and the company you work for by acting like you can't comprehend that?

Wow...

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Robbie 03-09-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20761743)
He didn't say anything about ILLEGAL immigrants.

I guess you've answered the question. You want to continue to appear as if you don't understand what was being said.
Congrats.


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