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Jigster715 06-07-2016 12:38 PM

Haha.
Fuck I have no sig to spam.

Paul Markham 06-07-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20946131)
why do you pretend you want an "outsider", when you really want a socialist?
Trump is 10x more of an "outsider" than Sanders ever was... and yet given the choice between "outsider" Trump and career-politician Hillary whose presidency will 100% surely result in 4 more years of status quo, you pick Hillary... :error

100% wrong. In the UK I would vote for a right wing party, UKIP.

If you want to see change you have to stop voting for the same thing every time. The problem is as you say Trump is 10x more of an outsider. Verging on the edge of disaster.

He has now said America is broken, infrastructure is terrible, unemployment high, etc. He's spot on. Americans don't pay enough taxes. That's the only way to reduce debt, build more and better schools, roads, healthcare, jobs, etc. Yet he wants to double the spending on military which some are delusional enough to think he will never use.

My suggestion goes beyond Sanders, it's to keep voting for people who don't follow the rules. More than once every four years. Then the major parties will listen to you.

Paul Markham 06-07-2016 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20946293)
FYI Criminal Fraud in the US requires proof beyond doubt of criminal mens rea or what is common known as intent.

Failing in a business venture and by circumstance screwing customers, employees and/or creditors is failing in business -- civil fraud with suits for damages claimed by the plaintiffs.

There is no criminal law barring fucking-up or being stupid -- we couldn't afford to build the jail space if there was:2 cents:

Failing by not doing well enough, is a civil matter. Promising something and not supplying it is fraud.

Paul Markham 06-07-2016 10:41 PM

Last night it became official. Clinton will be the next US President.

Because the outsider in the race is batshit crazy and proven to be incapable of supplying what he promises, crooked, fails too often. And a Blowhard.

He's also been in court and lost more times than is comfortable.

Until Americans start to vote in ways to scare the two parties, nothing will change. The problem of voting for Trump is he's not credible so after this nothing will change.

Vote for someone who will change the way things are done and have a chance of getting elected, or go on being ruled by those who buy politicians. You had a chance with Obama, then voted for Republicans to stop all the changes. Because Obama might take a bit more money from you.

When greed comes first, you're in the pockets of the men with the money.

CaptainHowdy 06-08-2016 09:35 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz...6oc3o1_500.gif

jscott 06-08-2016 10:13 AM

I'm willing to put a wager on the election if anyone is interested ;) (Mutt??? hehehe)

ilnjscb 06-08-2016 10:19 AM

Stop worrying so much, republicans. If she does win, Clinton will face a divided senate and a republican house, and it will probably get worse at mid-terms, if history is any guide.

Joshua G 06-08-2016 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20947547)
100% wrong. In the UK I would vote for a right wing party, UKIP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20947559)
You had a chance with Obama, then voted for Republicans to stop all the changes. Because Obama might take a bit more money from you.

so in markham world, the USA must move left to be saved. But you would vote for right wing in your country.

nothing you say makes any sense, at all. :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 06-08-2016 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20947553)
Failing by not doing well enough, is a civil matter. Promising something and not supplying it is fraud.

Civil fraud and criminal fraud are not the same thing -- US mens rea doctrine is from English common law
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_r...land_and_Wales
You should know better.

Criminal Fraud is almost as hard to convict someone of as a capital crime.

That's how these guys always skate in civil courts and bankruptcy courts -- rules of evidence :2 cents:

Bladewire 06-08-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20944799)
isn't california and new jersey voting today, with high delegate counts?

i mean, one week indicted, the next president..

You're confusing her with Trump.

Trump was federally indicted and lost to the Department of Justice. Hillary has never been indicted or guilty of any crime.

United States of America, Plaintiff v. Donald J. Trump, Defendant.

FTC MATTER/FILE NUMBER: 861 0148

CIVIL ACTION NUMBER: 88-CV-0929

FEDERAL COURT: District of Columbia

https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/case...mp-donald-j-us

Bladewire 06-08-2016 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20946131)
why do you pretend you want an "outsider", when you really want a socialist?
Trump is 10x more of an "outsider" than Sanders ever was... and yet given the choice between "outsider" Trump and career-politician Hillary whose presidency will 100% surely result in 4 more years of status quo, you pick Hillary... :error

Wait. A billionaire that had Hillary Clinton in the first row of his wedding is an outsider?

This guy is a non status quo outsider?


2MuchMark 06-08-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20946341)
yes, ********** is right. Americans like me need to suck up the fact that foreigners like him and the op support corrupt politicians like hillary to run another country, thank you **********, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...rkprinces.html


high 5!

You're reality is askew, Mr. Mo. I did not say I support her, and I did not say I support corrupt politicians. It's amazing how much imaginary stuff you insert into everything and instantly label as fact.

And like it or not Dyna, what happens in the US affects the entire world, and we Canadians really care about one of our biggest trading partners.

You and I share nearly the same culture, the same value of currency, and are practically next-door neighbours. You and I are even in the same business sector (or so you claim), and are on the same industry forum. Why you choose to get so hostile about my PREDICTION (not opinion), is bewildering. But then again, you are extremely hostile to everyone else on GFY for anything and everything anyone ever says, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

Good luck to you. I hope you don't vote Trump.

2MuchMark 06-08-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20947559)
Last night it became official. Clinton will be the next US President.
.

And Trump will be that last GOP Nominee!

(Thanks Stephen Colbert for that joke).

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 20948909)
I'm willing to put a wager on the election if anyone is interested ;) (Mutt??? hehehe)

So am I. Who else?

woj 06-08-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20949533)
Wait. A billionaire that had Hillary Clinton in the first row of his wedding is an outsider?

This guy is a non status quo outsider?

but Bernie, a guy who was a politician most of his life, is? or Hillary? :error

getting invited to a wedding suggests he is an "outsider" that has some connections in high places... actually working in politics most of one's life makes one not an "outsider"... so Hillary or Bernie certainly are not "outsiders"...

dyna mo 06-08-2016 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20949545)

And like it or not Dyna, what happens in the US affects the entire world, and we Canadians really care about one of our biggest trading partners.

You and I share nearly the same culture, the same value of currency, and are practically next-door neighbours. You and I are even in the same business sector (or so you claim), and are on the same industry forum. Why you choose to get so hostile about my PREDICTION (not opinion), is bewildering. But then again, you are extremely hostile to everyone else on GFY for anything and everything anyone ever says, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

Good luck to you. I hope you don't vote Trump.

My reply was hostile on your eyes? Im extremely hostile to everyone who says anything on GFY?

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahah

High5!

Bladewire 06-08-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20949686)
My reply was hostile on your eyes? Im extremely hostile to everyone who says anything on GFY?

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahah

High5!

What's your SnapChat?

dyna mo 06-08-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20946320)
Suck it up, Dynamo:

Hillary will win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20946341)
yes, ********** is right. Americans like me need to suck up the fact that foreigners like him and the op support corrupt politicians like hillary to run another country, thank you **********, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...rkprinces.html


high 5!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20949545)
Why you choose to get so hostile about my PREDICTION (not opinion), is bewildering. But then again, you are extremely hostile to everyone else on GFY for anything and everything anyone ever says, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

so extremely hostile.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it's also weird how you're stepping back from supporting your girl hillary though, warts and all.

this is why you crack me up **********


high 5!

dyna mo 06-08-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20949689)
What's your SnapChat?

i'm not really a snappychatter.

Joshua G 06-08-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20949509)
You're confusing her with Trump.

Trump was federally indicted and lost to the Department of Justice. Hillary has never been indicted or guilty of any crime.

United States of America, Plaintiff v. Donald J. Trump, Defendant.

FTC MATTER/FILE NUMBER: 861 0148

CIVIL ACTION NUMBER: 88-CV-0929

FEDERAL COURT: District of Columbia

https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/case...mp-donald-j-us

bladwire again, sees only what he wants to see.

on january 20, 2017, trump will be taking oath of office, because he was not under FBI investigation during campaign. hilary will be meeting with her attorneys over her legal issues surrounding not only emails, but the clinton foundation.

but in bladewires mind, a civil judgement is worse than investigations for espionage, obstruction of justice & selling state favors for cash.

tick tock goes the FBI clock...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 06-08-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20949752)
bladwire again, sees only what he wants to see.

on january 20, 2017, trump will be taking oath of office, because he was not under FBI investigation during campaign. hilary will be meeting with her attorneys over her legal issues surrounding not only emails, but the clinton foundation.

but in bladewires mind, a civil judgement is worse than investigations for espionage, obstruction of justice & selling state favors for cash.

tick tock goes the FBI clock...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The judge traded a criminal conviction for $750,000 in penalties. He was federally indicted and lost. Pointing false fingers at Hillary isn't reality. Trump losing in federal court, on federal indictments, actually happened, you can't deflect from that.

2MuchMark 06-08-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20949722)
so extremely hostile.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it's also weird how you're stepping back from supporting your girl hillary though, warts and all.

this is why you crack me up **********


high 5!

Wrong, Mo. I never supported Hillary. I wanted Bernie to win, but I have been predicting in about 90% of my posts that Hillary would win.

I crack you up? Strange.

Bladewire 06-08-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20949854)
Wrong, Mo. I never supported Hillary. I wanted Bernie to win, but I have been predicting in about 90% of my posts that Hillary would win.

I crack you up? Strange.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:thumbsup

dyna mo 06-08-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20949854)
Wrong, Mo. I never supported Hillary. I wanted Bernie to win, but I have been predicting in about 90% of my posts that Hillary would win.

I crack you up? Strange.

oopsie. you busted me.

support, prediction, opinion, whatever you want to call it, obviously i don't bother to make sense of any of it. i guess it's becoming obvious to you that i don't pay any real attention to your posts at all.


high 5!

Jman 06-08-2016 04:46 PM

Bill will have so many memories moving back in the house ;)

Sednub997 06-08-2016 10:10 PM

Wonder If she has balls for this prestigious title

Paul Markham 06-08-2016 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20949371)
so in markham world, the USA must move left to be saved. But you would vote for right wing in your country.

nothing you say makes any sense, at all. :2 cents:

I can see most things are above your pay grade. So I will explain it for you.

Politicians no longer fear the voters. Because the voters keep voting for the same old time and again. In the US politicians are mostly led by corporations and Right Wing. Only one person on the GOP had a chance of scaring the status quo. Trump. The problem is he's batshit crazy. If he were saner and appeared to understand and have better answers than "I'm great" I would support him.

On the Democrat side, the person is Sanders. He's not batshit crazy, knows the problems and wants to break the stranglehold billionaires have on both parties. His only downside is immigration.

In the UK the established politicians mostly support being in the EU and ruled by it. The EU is moving to rule Europe from the center. The UK economy is marginally stronger by being in the EU. Most Britains are poorer by being in the EU. Because their wages have stagnated and prices rose.

UKIP are the party to break the EU, along with a few others in Europe who are also dedicated to retaining their countries ability to rule their own country.

On both occasions, I'm saying vote for the anti-establishment man to break the establishment.

Trump is a joke. He had a real chance of being President. He threw it away by going crazy. Or maybe he already was. Some of his aims are great. His policies are crap. And if you want to debate me on that I'm prepared to do it.

Paul Markham 06-08-2016 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20949464)
Civil fraud and criminal fraud are not the same thing -- US mens rea doctrine is from English common law
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_r...land_and_Wales
You should know better.

Criminal Fraud is almost as hard to convict someone of as a capital crime.

That's how these guys always skate in civil courts and bankruptcy courts -- rules of evidence :2 cents:

Proving it in court is a problem, doesn't make him innocent of the crime. With the Public.

He either had nothing to do with setting up the school, or was hands on. He claims he was hands on. Over and over again he claims one thing and doesn't supply it. Infact had no intention to supply it.

Paul Markham 06-08-2016 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20949560)
And Trump will be that last GOP Nominee!

(Thanks Stephen Colbert for that joke).

The GOP needs to start thinking about its voters and not its puppet masters.

Obama was asked if he thinks the GOP are happy with Trump. His reply.

"I know we are" :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 06-08-2016 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20949644)
but Bernie, a guy who was a politician most of his life, is? or Hillary? :error

getting invited to a wedding suggests he is an "outsider" that has some connections in high places... actually working in politics most of one's life makes one not an "outsider"... so Hillary or Bernie certainly are not "outsiders"...

He can still be an outsider and work in politics. UK has Corbyn. Look at their record not job title.

Paul Markham 06-08-2016 11:34 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us...ettlement.html

Donald Trump Will See You in Court

And he still doesn't know a Mexican can't be a judge.

2MuchMark 06-09-2016 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20950469)

Wow he's really quite the piece of work....

Joshua G 06-09-2016 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20949815)
The judge traded a criminal conviction for $750,000 in penalties. He was federally indicted and lost. Pointing false fingers at Hillary isn't reality. Trump losing in federal court, on federal indictments, actually happened, you can't deflect from that.

So in bladewire-land, the FBI is not investigating hilary for high crimes & misdemeanors. & you used the word reality in the same sentence.

:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 06-10-2016 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20949932)
oopsie. you busted me.

support, prediction, opinion, whatever you want to call it, obviously i don't bother to make sense of any of it. i guess it's becoming obvious to you that i don't pay any real attention to your posts at all.


high 5!


Yet you take the time to reply to every single one of them.

dyna mo 06-10-2016 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20953259)
Yet you take the time to reply to every single one of them.

i know you like to think that, not much i can do about that. but seriously, predictions, support, opinion, you don't clearly define the nuances you claim between those, so i don't worry about it either. you don't post about Sanders, so you're not voting for him. you post a lot of anti-Trump stuff, which helps Trump, maybe you're a Trump guy, you're not a hillary guy, as you claim, there's nobody left for you to cast your vote for.

Jigster715 06-10-2016 10:04 AM

Two quick drops on hillary
 
Interview with one of the contractor spec ops guys on the ground.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/346092-hi...nghazi-attack/

+++

The Parties of Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR Are Dead

by Stephen Lendman

America was never beautiful. Today it?s unfit and unsafe to live in, a monster threatening humanity?s survival.

US duopoly power replaced the eras of Jefferson, Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. No JFKs exist, a peacemaker assassinated for opposing war, urging nuclear disarmament and rapprochement with Soviet Russia.

New Deal, Fair Deal and Great Society programs are heading for history?s dust bin. Bipartisan neocons infesting Washington want social justice ended, neoliberal enslavement replacing it, fascist police state harshness enforcing it.

America is a gangster state, criminals running it - beginning in the 1990s under Bill Clinton, hardened under George W. Bush, institutionalized under Obama, certain to worsen no matter who succeeds him.

US voters in November get to choose between deplorable, unacceptable choices - Clinton the most recklessly dangerous presidential aspirant in US history, Trump a billionaire, racist demagogue, both self-serving, mindless of popular needs and concerns.

Four more years of endless imperial wars are certain. America will resemble Guatemala before they end, its people impoverished, terrorized by police state harshness, constitutional rights replaced by full-blown tyranny.

Most disturbing is how uninformed and indifferent most Americans are about a ruthless system destroying their lives, welfare and futures.

Elections accomplish nothing, rigged to sustain continuity, benefitting wealth, privilege and power exclusively over progressive governance of, by and for everyone equitably.

The nation I grew up in from the 1930s through the 60s no longer exists, unfit and unsafe to live in since neocons usurped power - Hillary Clinton their current standard bearer.

Will November?s election (sic) be rigged to install her? Corporate controlled electronic voting machines make it simple. So does disenfranchising millions of unwanted voters.

Green party presidential aspirant Jill Stein blasted the Democrat party, calling it ?a disgrace?blatantly rigging the system? for Clinton, the corrupted media establishment supporting her, an unindicted racketeer, war criminal, major threat to world peace.

Late in my life, I can?t shake a deep foreboding for what I fear coming, dangers threatening everyone, youths with no futures, endless wars on a slippery slope toward possible mass annihilation.

Poet TS Eliot once mused about the world one day ending ?not with a bang but a whimper.? Thermonuclear weapons in the hands of neocons like Hillary Clinton risk otherwise.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at [email protected].

JamesM83 06-27-2016 10:05 PM

She sure will !

Hannes 06-27-2016 10:36 PM

were gonna be screwed

Bladewire 06-27-2016 10:45 PM

Trump will fuck the nation over for all his lones forgiven from allthe banks he has loans with and said Hillary is corrupt for Deutsche Bank, etc.


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