Next up? TEXIT! And then taking this idea of secession all the way down to its logical conclusion: the individual.

I am not against westerners having high paid jobs or anything like that...I am just addressing the factual reality that nobody wants to employ them or invest in a company that employs them for obvious reasons...building a "wall" does not solve this in any way...

trade agreements go both ways...you can not protect domestic production without hurting exports...impose a tax on imports = expect same tax imposed on you for your own exports...it goes both ways...always...

oh and nobody will buy the goods...you are spot on with your argument, the only problem is capitalism wants its money NOW...it does not matter what will happen in 20-30 years...you take the money NOW and run or you do not take the money and somebody else does...

interesting times are ahead....

This is normal option, why would UK give brisell rights to command them anything

Yup, its also another bullshit layer of government, who also doent pay attention to, the wishes of those they rule :2 cents:

It wouldn't be taxpayers money that's stolen.

Are you for being ruled from Brussels or from the Parliament only your country can vote for?

Trade is great, but look around you and see how much we buy from outside the EU. So it's not as if we wouldn't trade with each other without the EU. When we sell goods to any country they have to conform to that countries rules. The idea of having one set of rules for the EU is good. So long as there aren't 1,000s of bureaucrats whose jobs rely on constantly coming up with new rules.

https://fullfact.org/europe/two-thirds-uk-law-made-eu/

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-w...influenced-eu/

What percentage of laws come from the EU? |

It's a mess.

Perfect timing for a Europe trip... Let's crash those currencies into the ground guys...

It's this simple. Balanced trade deals. For every $ you sell, you buy a $'s worth from us. This way you protect domestic production and boost exports.

I lived in the days when we made clothes and electrical goods in the UK. We had less poverty and less living on the Governments tit.

its not a fair system at all. only 52% want to be out. it should have to be 70%

I hear since this morning, Britain's already poorer than France & the French are sending all their refugees over to England, taxes are rising & Spain wants Gib back. As for the Brussels ruling, that was never the case. The EU top dogs were a group & not just ruling from Brussels. Now Britain's going to find cost of living goes up as they purchase from international countries like Germany, rather than from the EU.

I'm not sure how things will change from Brits abroad, but I'm pleased I'm not living in the UK now, The prisoners island :2 cents:

You could actually be one of the worst effected by all of this. Who is to say Spain don't kick you out? How long have you been domiciled there now, less than 60 months?

oh yes. Just imagine how Spaniards kick out tourists and the people that bring money to Spanish economy..it would be really wise move of Spanish government :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
unemployment would rise few more percent and real estate would suffer even more

Well I'm not talking about tourists for a start but you are right, I think it is unlikely that expats would be kicked out possibly more a case of 'forced out' if they lose health care, social services and other current benefits.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh yes... like Brits would be taking any benefits from spanish state. its rather the opposite
there are few that would be the case...90 % overall is giving, not taking

you can not dictate terms with a trade deficit :2 cents: your goods are not attractive enough to be purchased whilst you are IN the EU...when you go OUT your goods are even less attractive...in turn you sell less and become less attractive for investment...

its literally like this: you either lick the asshole of big money, or big money goes elsewhere...

big money wants profits NOW<---this



time machine paul...30 years ago china was not the production powerhouse it is today...emerging economies have cheap as fuck labor and little regulation...big money was not so international as it is today...

the USA already lost its fight with big money...production is not in the USA any more...

nobody will ever want to employ high paid workers...this will never change...30 years ago china was not an option....today it is a very real option...

what makes you think you will win a fight the USA lost?

Enjoy your day!

UK and EU Bonds will be have their credit ratings downgraded.
You will pay in higher interest and inflation rates.
The globalists you love to hate will buy your national assets at discount rates.

The dollar will rise.
The GBP has fallen to record lows;

The DJI futures are predicting a 650 point loss today -- I hope there is a chain of losses. I love buying discounted assets. Keep up the good work :thumbsup

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

dont be so excited. give it a few months to get back to normal
and "you loving buying assets" means shit. wait as the Chinese will say "check", then you are fucked:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah I knew that you will say that. They even repeated it 10 times here in Spanish TV with one older british lady saying that now she will "have to move". typical propaganda bullshit, just like Cameron was saying that British pensions wont be "secure" after Brexit.
i stand my point: 90 % of british expats give more than take. and most of them have some kind of insurance from their home coountry. Its not US here. here such things are few times cheaper than in US. usually

@klinton
I have 5 times more asset worth than what I had in 2007 :)
Keep dreaming ...

Who is talking about the US? It's got nothing to do with the US. Again, I'm guessing your 90% figure is a best guess instead of published data?

And if their income source is in GBP it's just heading down in value. So, the Euro is going to take part of the hit.

Chart is too big >> https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/...4/v2/-1x-1.png

"blood in the waters!"
Nice work :upsidedow

I can see the scare tactics worked on you.

The rise in prices on imports will make people buy British. And devastate the EU economy. How will Spain do when the Spanish on benefits in the UK, have to go home?

How's unemployment in Spain?

Congrats LEAVE people.......

looks like MI5 killed Cox for absolutely nothing.

Exactly this. Spain wants British & other nationalities living here, bringing income, raising the economy of Spain. They want their country back, Gib does trading with the US & the Spanish government have seen Britain leaving the EU as a golden egg.

As for the UK, the masses of overseas, European deliveries to & from the UK will either rise in costs or the consumer will quit purchasing & again, less business for the UK.

Already the lies have began from Farage, saying his campaign to leave was a mistake & the money isn't now going to help the NHS, I bet it will help line their pockets though :2 cents:

I wonder when porn & all adult rated sites will be banned? Government control is coming!

not any more, I'd have thought I'll have to have personal insurance now the UK's left the EU.

lucky bastard ! if you invested in NYSE since 2010 thats basically what had happened... thanks to "quantative easing".... what a beautiful word, isnt it ? you may even use the same type of eufemism if you go to make shit in the toilet :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

The only people who will be kicked out are those who don't support themselves and not taking a job from a native. The EU committed suicide when they wrote that law.

Look at the average wage and taxes paid to see where the break-even point is. Then look at national debt. You'll see very few actually contribute a lot. In the UK the top 20% pay more in taxes than the rest combined. Gary, Madalton, me, we contribute. Even today me pensions make me a net contributor.

All migration should be judged on this basis.

its a "best guess" based on what I see here. and usually guys that live here + 6 months and are from UK... have real estate...and they are being "properly" taxed on that :winkwink::winkwink:

it is already banned in UK, in case you dont know. probably the only EU country...
well, maybe not banned, but banned by default by ISPs. you have to "ask" to have pron websites enabled unless you use VPN from UK :winkwink:

So the Chinese lose out. The UK can buy from countries willing to buy our goods.


China wasn't. Hong Kong, Japan and others were. Please get some facts.

If the 300,000 expats cost Spain more than they contribute. Why the fuck should they be in Spain?

This notion of people going from one country to leech off another is the problem and applies to Brits.

It's true, British models are fugly as Hell.

So from an American perspective: this all sounds like "soft" Naziism to me. That, plus pure capitalism.

The eternal struggle is this: average people want to be paid a living wage, poor people will work for dirt, rich people like poor people. Rich control everything, average people get fucked, poor people make enough $ to barely survive while the rich get richer.

Any of that wrong? Any of that ever going to change?

The end of United Kingdom .... :2 cents:

The only reason Scotland stayed in the UK was the fear of being out of EU for qute a few years ... Now, they are out anyway ...

Ireland will split also , as they are considered 3rd rate citizens ...

:2 cents:

Once the UK establishes a decent trade deal all will settle down. Should the EU bureaucrats decide to shut down trade deals with the UK. A lot of big companies and millions of workers will go apeshit over losing jobs and money.

But let's just assume German Carmakers and the rest of EU industries are happy to sell less. The UK economy drops. 100,000s of migrants will leave the UK. They're their because the economy is thriving, benefits subsidise low paid migrant workers and as I pointed out. Very few contribute.

This will open up 100,000s of jobs.

The reason so many voted out is, they're not seeing the benefits of the EU. Look at how people's incomes have been hit for proof.

Only if the people vote for change. The rich people are penniless unless the rest buy their goods. Tell me how many would be rich if not for us buying?

At the moment we're sending ur jobs East. We need a Government that says to China and the others, buy more hi-tech from us or we won't buy from you.

Not EU Governments that allow Airbus to open factories in China. If they can move East, what's to stop Mercedes, BMW? Whoops, to late look under the bonnet of your car.

Smart move. Can't take care of dead beats all the time

You only have to do this with mobile phones, home broadband it's under your own control. Well it is with BT anyway.

what did you say your I.Q. was again Gary?

So it is more fair to do as 48% wants instead of 52% wants? :1orglaugh