301 reasons bullshit shows.

No one knows what you send out unless you can show your audited account.

I asked a very important question which you ignored.

Why is it so hard for the webcam studio model, to earn enough to pay Western girls?

We know Western Girls are webcamming, we know the sites with them are getting more traffic, we know they want more than Third World girls. So why can't you afford them?

Thanks for proving me right, I couldn't be bothered.

I have been licensing and having custom content created for my sites since 1995. So for you to suggest I don't deal with content is just stupidity on your part. Especially when I have licensed content that I have purchased from you in the past and more recently from you via AdultCentro.

As always, you just end up contradicting yourself.

Because it is not 1999 and the prices of a private are $4-$6/min.
The easy pickins are gone.
Running a porn business in the USA is problematic from the point legal requirements. Free-lancers is the only way to go in the USA or Canada. As far as other native English speaking countries I will defer to persons in AU GB NZ etc.

Why don't you return to the UK and open a studio?
Or open a studio in Prague where there is a large population pool that will work for 1/3 of the wages in the USA or Western Europe -- teach your models better English. Build cubicles that are separated with hollow walls and install windows -- light them correctly for the correct time zones you want https://gfy.com/images/icons/lightbulbdg.gif

Boom -- that model looks like she is in California, London or Sidney. If she talks the talk and looks like she is in the right place --WTF-- we sell fantacyland anyway.


Why don't you spend $500 and buy credits on various cam sites and report back to us here? See what you are charged and who and what you get for your money?

You might begin to understand what you are talking about instead of shooting your mouth off with no factual knowledge. If $500.00 is too much for you to invest in exploring a business' viability -- you are hopeless.

Why don't you do something if you think you can reinvent the wheel?

Just showing your claim about running a big company is bullshit.

As for buying content for failed paysites making you an expert on porn content. :1orglaugh

At last you admit it's better for English Speaking girls not to join studios.

When will you get it that I have no need to work? Unless that's a standard reply to avoid the proper one.

Wxactly so building the fantasy beyond the cubicles you have girls in. Will sell more.

I don't need to buy time with porn models to know what sells to the guys looking for fantasy.

I know for fact girls who speak the language of the customer will earn more your Third World girls, you just confirmed it. Thank you for answering my question about why you can't attract First World Girls.

Are webmasters better off doing deals with select freelance models to spearhead their promotion and bring in more whales than Third World studios? Or is it so easy the First World girls can do it themselves?

You are working running your mouth off.

Clueless. :2 cents:

This is why we shouldn;t listen to webmasters when they lecture us about porn.

We've now established that girls who can and do talk to their customers sell better than those who don't. It follows that the more one knows about those girls, the more she will appeal to viewers. More than some girl from let's say Russian doing the same porn scene every other girl does.

I learned this 25 years ago when selling porn the UK. Because the girls who couldn't talk well to camera were harder to sell than those who could do it well as this is a good way to involve the viewer into the action happening on screen.

There are many ways to expand this by getting the model or someone posing as her to tweet, post on FB about their life. What;s essential is the model must create content outside her porn scenes about herself and her life. She's creating herself into a personality. Consumer recognition starts and grows the more successful the marketing is.

This isn't for everyone and that's the best thing about it, if everyone does it, it's the norm. Imagine being the only site with HD porn. Those who can't, so what.

For webcams, this is essential for those who want the big money customers. For paysites, it just means more joins. For affiliates, they have content that's superior to those who don't do it. It's not jerk off material, it's marketing material.

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And the bigger the experience the more the sales.

See, smart fella that AdultKing. He was saying in 2003 what it took Paul Markham until 2016 to start a seven page thread about - with one exception - he said it's the webmasters who need to build the experience for the surfer, which is still true today.

Without the Internet marketers or the webmasters you can have the best content in the world and nobody will get to see it because people like you don't know how to get content in front of the surfer.

When Paul Markham tried to step in to the role of webmaster this is what happened:

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I was never a webmaster, the pay's too low.

I was marketing products long before I got into porn, while in porn offline and carried on marketing online.

You claimed to own a big Australian company and now been exposed as a loser webmaster/programmer.

You're now trolling thread about a subject you think is good. So not very good at trolling.

The bonus of this method is few can use it, the people who do win, the rest lose.

Affiliates can pre-sell a model rather than a site. The webmastering part of getting the traffic remains the same. What webmasters must not do is get involved in the creation of the product and stay out of all discussions on it. It will and always has been a problem keeping trolls out of threads where they have nothing of worth to add.

The improvement for affiliates is when a surfer lands on their site, he sees more than the usual stuff everyone else has. These are suggestions, an interview with the model or interviews explaining who she is, what she does, why she likes it, and so on there are so many things she can talk about. Behind the Scenes stuff of her, selfies at work, selfie videos after a great day or scene.

I was using this as a marketing tool back in the 90s. Shoot a small clip of the girl after the day's work is done telling people what fun it was. Compile a sample video and sell it to old customers and new ones.

There's nothing revolutionary about this. The change is you're actually selling the girl in a better way than text, picture or video of her fucking.

It's also making the site more appealing and will increase bookmarking numbers. The sites using this method have more reasons for surfers to return to. More reasons to stop to look and listen to the girls. Or guys. Even if they don't lie the first girl, they might like te second one and so on. Those who want a 20-minute jerk off aren't the target market.

There's no great skill in creating the content, the more real it is, the better. A little direction from a marketing man who understands his market, customers and models is essential. So no good for Barry who thinks he needs to employ me because he can't do it. :winkwink:

This can be done for webcam models as well. All they need is to speak good English.

You :2 cents: are :2 cents: clueless :2 cents: :2 cents:

Where do you think the investment came from to build Node.XXX ?

How do you think dozens of servers are paid for every month ?

What makes you think you know what websites I own and what I don't ? How do you measure my footprint in adult when only a few of my properties are openly advertised ?

And just because I won't directly link to my mainstream enterprises from GFY doesn't make you the expert on my business affairs.

I've been starting, running and selling adult businesses since the late 1980s. I've been involved in service delivery, physical adult product sales, magazines, mail order, video sales, brothels, dating, phone sex and websites.

While you might have linked to some examples where I have been exasperated at the state of the industry at various times, I'm still in it - unlike you who flunked out years ago. :2 cents:

Your legacy in porn is your whole content library available for peanuts.

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For webcams, this is essential for those who want the big money customers.

We have customers that have been customers for years and have spent 1000's. But the Great Paul Markham says we don't know what we are doing -- generating millions of euros a month is nothing compared to a GFY broke-dick shooting his mouth off -- isn't the Internet fun?

The is nothing stopping affiliates from creating compelling marketing referral content -- we provide a lot of content that is taken from our website -- this is what the models and studios make available.

As far as speaking English -- they should study English to a more advanced level if their native language is Romanian or Spanish -- if the want a better foothold in that market.

Most understand basic English and the customers' chat is not usually that complex. I have heard the Czech girls speak English LOLZ and I am sure your Czech models spoke perfect English ...

It is not my job or obligation to pay for contractors' English lessons. If studios want to to have the service of the Markham Marketing System they can pay for it out of their own pocket (*revenue-share).

Go talk to some studios or herd your own cats and teach them your way -- you can be a disruptive sales and marketing program innovator -- but I would expect you to fall flat on your face because you think you know it all and as my Uncle once said to me "If you build your house on sand the foundation will not last long."

Bottom line, keep yapping you are hitting on some points like 10% the rest is total bullshit -- typical Markham.

Paul let me ask you a serious question: how uch money do you think a "webmaster" makes selling porn? How much do you think I make selling porn?

You always say being a Webmaster doesn't pay enough yet how do you know HOW much a Webmaster makes?

Personally I think you just think everyone in this thread is NOT successful so you can feel better about your arguments. It's rather silly Sir.

Not as much as a pornographer.

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We had customers that were customers for years and spent $1000's. Edited to show what happens to those who don't adapt. Happens to every.

Agree there's nothing stopping affiliates creating great content. What's stopping you from doing it? The stuff you give affiliates is poor.

And from here on I know I'm dealing with a rep who has no power or someone who's so stuck in yesterday's model. It makes me look like the progressive and you a dinosaur.

The business is constantly evolving. The new webcam model is the present and will be the only one in the future. Affiliates who send get traffic will soon know if what content gets the best customers and what sites convert bes.

Which takes us back to the loyalty question. How loyal will old customers and affiliates be once they find something better?

So adapting is paramount. Once we see those stats fall we have to analyse why they're falling. Look at where the traffic is going because overall porn traffic does nothing but grow as populations grow. Webmasters is a term I used for those who have no real knowledge of porn, porn consumers or the people creating it. I can look at a site and see why it converts great, or why it fails miserably. I had to as a producer who spent money a lot of money up front. With no guaranty "traffic" would lead to a profit. 2003 if one couldn't make a paysite work, one was a fuck up.

Stats will tell you a site is getting less popular, not converting like it used to why the site's failing. Why more traffic that doesn't buy isn't the solution. Getting a better mousetrap is the solution once one knows how to drive traffic. There's the problem, that requires knowledge and money and some webmasters don't know enough or earn enough. To get a bettre mouse trap.

See that right there is a snarky answer Paul. It was a serious question and you could not answer it.

According to Paul Markham the only people who understand porn are pornographers.
There are not any 'pornographers' left except....Paul Markham!!

Convenient circular logic.

THIS is why no one truly respects your views and will not hire you as a Consultant. You pontificate without any real knowledge or data and when asked a serious question you act like a teenager in the schoolyard.

A porn Webmaster can earn low-to-mid (to sometimes high) six figures a year (or more). That is more than you make now, made then or have EVER made in your entire working life Paul.

Bye.

It was a stupid question, so I gave a stupid answer. Does the top porn webmaster earn as much as the top pornographer? Now name them and we can take a poke at it.

Webmasters very often don't. You think I can't look at a scene and tell you what's wrong with it. I did and your comeback excuse was BS, for the reasons I pointed out. You would know those reasons if you were a pornographer. This is the same as a programmer knowing what works and doesn't, or a car mechanic knowing what's wrong with a motor.

So someone with no real knowledge produced porn for over 30 years and made a very good living from it. It's a lot harder than you think. You would know that if you had ever shot porn.

A pornographer making 6 figures is the norm. You don't have a clue what I make now or made then. I can tell you I made enough money to wait 6 months to get the first payment on a magazine set and still keep producing 4-5 sets a week with 2 to 3 models a week. Nothing special about that, it's the norm for my profession. You would know that if you had a clue.

What I most certainly can do is look at stats and know a site sucks at getting traffic, because the sample content isn't good and sucks at converting because there's better porn to be bought. Mind you those things are dead easy.

Analysing stats shows people how the market and their product is changing. This is so easy today.

So the bullshit some are dishing out here, needs to stop.

Coming up with solutions needs more than stats, it needs knowledge of the customer, product. and market. None of the losers here have offered anything but "We are making loads of money and you aren't,". I'll bet some of that is based on their incomes past and present. And arrogance that they know everything.

I only know about marketing, selling, and porn. Dumping people onto a site is a skill I never bothered to learn.

I am pretty sure what we're witnessing here is early onset dementia :2 cents:

Feels real good to have someone assume you make no money, doesn't it Paul? Yet that is what you CONSISTENTLY do to everyone in this thread.

"I can look at stats and..." What stats Paul? Alexa? That's not a good indicator of whether or not a site is profitable so it's bogus. Any other STATS Paul you may be looking at to make your brilliant analysis? You know, like traffic sources, bounce rate, time on site, form hits, etc etc? NO because (like everyone else) you do not have access to such stats. So no Paul, you do NOT "look at stats" to make your judgments.

You did NOT make six figures a year back when you were shooting, even adjusted for today's rates. You have never made six figures income in one year in your entire adult life.

I am a former journalist who actually wrote for Penthouse magazine. I KNOW what "pornographers" got for their work. I also wrote for Oui and Swank and Hustler and...you get the point. So I can calculate exactly what someone got paid yearly and perhaps THE biggest shooters make 100K but YOU were certainly not an Earl Miller.

Paul -- Read this HARD https://gfy.com/18495435-post1.html save me the typing TROLL Since 2011.

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I can look at the crap dated content you have, I know a lot of it is revshare and see you can't afford to buy anything decent because you don't earn enough

OK tell people what all the magazines paid, while I sort out their invoices of what we got paid for non exclusive licenses. The price of content is why you can't afford to buy good content, why you can't afford mine and wanted a revshare deal which wouldn't be worth it to me. You know nothing and just bullshitting.

give us your best traffic site and we can see how much you have.

I said back off.

In the last two years, your traffic has halved, Chaturbate has soared. Trying to Bullshit people that it's only the freeloaders who moved, won't work. They have more intelligence.

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Do you want to see more stats of why your style is losing and the new one is winning?

Since Paul keeps quoting Alexa stats, maybe he could explain the following.

1. How are Alexa statistics gathered ?

2. How do Alexa statistics provide an indication of profitability ?

3. What the relationship is between traffic and profit ?

So reveal your stats to show otherwise. We can compare the two.

The link between traffic and profits is clear as daylight and I find it amazing you don't know this.

Since the birth of TGPs there has been a section of the market that used to buy porn magazines switched to jerking off with the free images on TGPs. We saw ratios drop as more came online. Traffic swelled faster than the free jerk off surfers.

Then Tubes hit the business and those who used to pay for videos now were able to get them for free. Sales plummetted. Piracy made it worse or are you saying it didn't.

Now free webcams have hit you like a sledgehammer. People who used to pay for webcams now get them for free. But there's an indication the some of these free webcam sites are doing better. The quality of models. Barry has said his model isn't good enough to have Western Girls. The free webcams have Western Girls. Or are you going to bullshit us that those girls are earning less than his?

I understand simple logic is beyond you, a webmaster. Any businessman would see this as clear as daylight. I'm quoting what happened and you tried to fight against.

So tell us about this big company you own. :1orglaugh

Paul, stop avoiding the questions that have not been answered by you.

You keep quoting Alexa statistics, it would be good to know if you understand how to use them in context, so answer these three questions.

1. How are Alexa statistics gathered ?

2. How do Alexa statistics provide an indication of profitability ?

3. What the relationship is between traffic and profit ?

Tell us about the big company you own and stop trying to avoid the question.

Only an indication of people who like the site. How long they stay is a good indication. It's not as good as being able to look at the product and say you will need enough traffic to sell shit here because it's shit.

Well again if the product is shit and they don't have enough traffic to sell shit. The profits aren't there.

Assuming a CTR is 1-20 a site will need 2,000,000 a day to make an average income. 10,000 @ $4 per 1,000 = $400 a day. $146,000 a year less costs. Can your search engine hit that number seeing as it's not very good from the surfer's perspective?

I have asked, and you have avoided, the question. What's your marketing strategy to tell surfers where your surf engine is?

I very much doubt, surfers will be interested in buying anything on the paysites you charge for advertising. They might just go to Tube sites and stay there. When surfers enter free porn, will you send them to paysites?

Now you tell us what you think the links are. Unless you're on a bullshit trail.

Thanks for establishing that you don't understand how Alexa gathers it's statistics, you don't understand how to use Alexa data and you have zero understanding of the relationship between traffic and profit.

You've now confirmed for everyone what they already knew. You don't have any clue what you waffle on about.

As for my mainstream company, you have already been told several times that I am not posting that on an adult industry forum. It has no connection to adult and I'm going to keep it that way.

As for Node.XXX, you obviously don't read anything people say to you because it's been stated several times in this thread that we do NOT sell advertising.

The only person on a bullshit trail in this thread is you Paul.

You continually quote figures without substantiating them, you link to Alexa statistics without understanding them, you have no idea what anyone's traffic is because nobody is going to show you their internal statistics on a public forum.

However you know that people won't reveal their secret sauce, so you use that in your spin against them as not providing proof about what they are saying. It's a classic Markham trick and it's getting old.

How about you tell us about these lucrative property investments you say you have ? No ? Didn't think so.

You're full of shit.

For a very short time surfers were amazed there was porn online and joined on that impulse. Today more than ever content is GOD.

This is proven with every set of stats from where ever you find them. All the top traffic sites in any field are the ones with the best reasons for being there. Xhamster, Pornhub, Youporn beat even Brazzers because those free tubes have the best product to supply the need porn has always supplied.

Webmasters like AK, PN, Dig, Barry refuse to get that. Because not only don't they understand porn, they're clueless about marketing and selling. People with a clue have changed. Many have left selling porn altogether, some have gone to mainstream dating, some have left the online business altogether. How do I know? I'm still friends with people who bought my content. And some we see here.

My idea of bringing out the personality rather than the sex act works and has worked for decades. claiming "it's different online" needs backing up with evidence. Have the trolls given any?

If your content isn't the best or near it, Fewer people will bother to stop and look, fewer will buy, fewer people will send traffic and the only way online to stay in business is to adapt. Something I always did.

Here's Paul Markham's real ability as shown by real statistics.

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I don't work the site. I retired in 2008 and Eva stopped shooting to care for me. Yes for two years we could afford to not work. And if that's the best you can do, you failed.

You have yet to say why I'm wrong, you just say I am. You have yet to say why the link to how Alexa collects traffic is wrong. In fact, all you do is say I'm wrong.

You don't own anything except for your webmaster sites. At 8.00 in the evening, you're online working to keep the rent paid. As for not selling traffic from Node.xxx. You are right you won't be selling much as you won't have much.

Getting snarky now ? What a surprise! Another example from the Paul Markham book of bullshit.

If you're going to quote statistics then at least have some understanding of how they are gathered and the correct context in which to use them. You have neither.

1. I own over 100 websites.

2. I don't pay rent.

3. I spent most of the day at home with my other half after a morning breakfast meeting with my staff.

4. Node.XXX is very new. However the traffic is coming in, in bursts, mostly aligned with when it's been discussed in various online forums. I know it's not a lot, but it's a great start for a brand new site. See the current week below:

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Welcome to my ignore list.

Yeah I really didn't want my personal Twitter account posted here. What an asshole.

lol keep my name out your mouth troll.. why aren't you banned yet? Giving out personal information, calling people's family, you're a piece of shit. Go find some broke teenagers to lech over you gross old bastard.

It's obvious that the lengthy period of time Paul Markham was banned from this forum did nothing to teach him how to behave. :2 cents:

Alexa was measuring all of our ad broker traffic it was going to the domain -- it isn't now. Alexa doesn't see it. The Bounce Rate is too high on that bulk traffic. We did it intentionally so dummies that use the Alexa Traffic and Bounce rates are fooled.

Smoke and Mirrors

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Paul I showed you high quality sites that have EXPENSIVE content (more than you could afford, and better than you could ever shoot) and you dismissed it. The sites I listed in this thread make dozens of sales a day and they do not even represent all my sales. LOL

I can afford to buy and sell your whole family dude. Just because I choose to go revshare which, at the end of the day is MORE profitable (to me), should give you a clue but it doesn't so why bother. LOL

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I showed you this site in the past and your comment was (I still have the email): "I cannot offer any advice here. The content is fantastic."

No please, go ahead and dismiss this site just to prove your pointless points.

EDIT: While I was typing this post I made 3 sales, including two $99.95 sales, for the site listed above. :)

Also: I would never, ever 'offer you revshare' or offer to work with you in any way whatsoever. Your content is crap, your attitude is pissy and annoying and you are a clueless fool when it comes to making money on the Internet.

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He's clueless about everything.

However I can clue him up about one thing. He's going to really regret posting my personal Twitter account on GFY.

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15 hours on GFY and running a big business and dealing with employees. Or maybe bullshitting.

Difference between him and you is when he's not posting on GFY, he's actually working. You're on GFY all day EVERY day and you don't do shit except talk about how awesome you are. You were a B-level photographer years ago, nobody's first option. The guy they called when they couldn't get someone really good. That's it. A nobody even in your best days. It's astounding that you are so completely lacking in humility, self-awareness and common sense that you think you have the knowledge to answer anything more than whether to use flash in daylight or not. You're like a slow motion train wreck. You know it's going to come to a very bad end, but you just can't look away.

There's a little checkbox where you log that says "Remember Me".

It keeps you logged in.

Considering I have GFY open on 3 Macs at any one time, it's unsurprising I'll show as online even while I am asleep, away, doing other stuff.

Yes you have a couple of good sites, the problem is all the bad ones. Like you getting a BJ from a girl who looks bored anr your tiny dick refusing to rise. Must be you beceause you said so on the site. now you are denying it because......

The content you showed doesn't look like HD let alone 4K. You have to tell people it's HD inside the site.

You did offer to do revshare with me and I offered you to buy the license outright. However you judge of porn quality and my wealth is something you're clueless about.

Those were posts, you don't understand how GFY works.

Only Paul Markham understands GFY :1orglaugh

Retention is King.

Unless a site can convince people it's worth staying on and returning it, it's going to fail to maximise the traffic. So whether it's a Search Engine, Tube, Blog, TGP there has to be a lot of effort to convince people to stop and look, or better still listen.

Around 1980 we in the porn business learned that we are losing a lot of business to videos. That got increasingly worse, no worries mags were funded by advertising and still bought in huge numbers. Come TGPs sales dropped, there was a new and better way to get porn pictures. The video industry hadn't suffered much as B/W was too expensive to deliver the quality a DVD could. Once B/W costs dropped, the offline porn industry dropped.

None of the offline businesses were able to retain customers. They were old standard. Same with scanned, to SSD, to HD desperate hopes 3D and VR will bring back people to the old standard. Tubes are the new standard everyone competes with. Then there are other sites in the same niche to compete with. Both set the standard for customers.

Saying something is 4k, HD or whatever. Makes no difference. One has to prove it to the surfer.

Which one of these looks like HD let alone 4k?

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