here ya go, get a clue

I don't think he was denying anything, he was stating that with reason and logic and imagination and resources we can rise above our instincts and make alternate choices. to me imagination is a really vital element of this process, phrased by ilnjscb as "capacity to recognize" (apologies if I misinterpreted your intent)

agreed here 100%. those capabilities are a foundation though, we do have some agency in our interactions with the world

Oh yeah! We're all primal and capable of anything at any time so hating Jews or "fill in the blank" is ok because it could be worse and because it's being done it's only natural.

Such bullshit and intellectually lazy at best.

Humans are mammals, a social animal with a societal structure. You can have 5 people in an elevator that breaks down (all people the same sex, color & race) .

If one of those people starts jumping up and down to be an asshole theres gonna be a problem for that person, that's who racists, xenophobes and other haters are in our society. Its not natural to be a loud mouthed hater, it's obnoxious.

Oh it's settled then. War. Killing. Prejudice. Bigotry.... is all over now. My bad. That was easy. Only took a few million years or so.

Yes. It's easy to prove bibles wrong, impossible to prove them as fact.

From the very beginning of Man's tribal existence, there are relics showing they were worshiping something in the hope it would make their lives easier. Hunting and Birth being the main ones.

Judaism is a relatively new one and invented to keep a tribe together in troubled times. They're not a chosen people they would be top of the food chain if they were. Like Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, or any other invented religion.

Here's the rub. If Jews are following the word of a god. They have to follow it to the letter, there's no room for change. Read the rules and see how many are ignored.

He was wrong about Yugoslavia pre-war being peaceful.

There's enough traffic online for us all to make a decent living. So why do some try to get it all?

We are programmed to want as much as we can get. Assuming reason and logic and imagination and resources would make us deny our instincts has never worked.

And there's your problem. The asshole can be a group who don't act like the majority. They choose to be different and expect the majority to accept any degree of difference. Even for the majority to accept that they can live by their rules and not the majorities.

Then it comes down to degrees of differences. Should Orthodox Christians, Jews and Muslims be allowed to live by their rules and not the country they live in laws?

yeah what the fuck do I know I only lived there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


bill clinton would never lie :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That is precisely what I meant. Even if we accept the idea that "humans are inherently base" which is in no way verified, we need to see that the best of what we've done has been accomplished by looking away from those tendencies.

I don't know whether your memory is failing or you were too poor to travel but the second most popular overseas holiday destination for people from the UK in the 1980s was Yugoslavia.

I remember my dads boss warning us about terror attacks in london back in the 80-s when I lived there, yugo was so peaceful that london seemed like a terribly frightening place in comparison...its a good thing paul knows better than me :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The hate it's about it's not religion or beliefs but simple plain hatred just because.

In the 70s and 80s whenever we visited London it was perfectly normal that you wouldn't be allowed in a department store, museum, or any other large building without having a security guard empty your bag out on to a table to check the contents.

Largely funded by NORAID, before the Americans thought terrorism was anything other than a bit of fun in a far away land, the IRA blowing things up was a genuine worry. One office block my dad worked in even had their own Wheelbarrow robot :Oh crap

free will implies we choose our actions. I agree, it always better to purse positive courses of action. I see that people sometimes prefer a group decision rather to an individual decision, with the end result being only the leadership of the group prospers, while others are denied their dignity. yet even those that choose to relinquish their free will are responsible for their actions and decisions.

Why do you choose to hate blacks, Gays & Jewish people?

the only thing I really disagree with is what was done to you as a child by the media, you had no choice as a child... it's a real pity for sure... :2 cents: (btw I'm well aware your comments are public attacks against my person, my business and my family. you are painting me as a racist, homophobe and whatever the fuck hews haters are called... for a future search on my name. I am well aware of this. I specifically stated previously that if any post causes me issues in the future I will sue the wholly fuck out of you. you clear asswipe??)

Why deflect from explaining your hate? Let's have an open discussion :thumbsup

Did a black guy cuck you? Did a Gay guy seduce you? Did a "Jew" take your money?

Or was it the trifecta? A black Gay Jew fucked you and took your money? :1orglaugh

I'm talking about the 40s. Tito was in power in the 80s and kept the warring parties under control.

Distrust of what we don't know, understand or contradicts our ethics and morals is easy to stir up. Once that's done all that's needed is belief in a god that made no appearance got 200,000 years and in terms of Man's life on Earth a newcomer.

You can now tell the sheeple they will go to Heaven if they go grab what the other people have and if they don't they will go to hell. More Man-Made bullshit.

The leaders can impose a regime that executes those who break ranks. Impose rules that contradict how we are made.

Cruchie. Read more about how savage your country iw.

https://espressostalinist.com/genoci...tion-genocide/

Ghost of Draza Mihailovic Still Divides Serbia :: Balkan Insight

There's a lot more about how Yugoslavs killed each other. https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...g+each+oth er

Go on keep comparing the 80s, when we had The Troubles and you had Tito keeping a tight lid on the country. Your country only stopped the genocide in the 90s after the US started to bomb. The warnings were falling on deaf ears.

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-med...4-6ED745D6.jpg

It was originally estimated that at least 200,000 people were killed and more than 2,000,000 displaced during the 1992?95 war. Subsequent studies, however, concluded that the death toll was actually about 100,000.

So only 100,000 murdered. Because Serbs hate Bosnians for no other reason than they're different.

What religion did the, what we now call Jews, follow before they invented Judaism?

Why did their god wait for 200,000 to select them as his chosen people to be crushed, invaded, and generally shitted upon for the next 8,000 years?

Why couldn't Jesus prove to Pontious Polite that he was the son of god and converted the Roman Empire in 35 AD? Or get off the cross or out of the cave and go tell Pontious Polite he had risen from the dead?

Because it's all fiction.

Imagine there was such a god that loved us and was wise and merciful. We wouldn't have been killing each other for 100,000 of years.

Or we are his Hunger Games entertainment, Better than HBP, Netflix and Amazon all rolled up together?

Best choice is to admit it's all fake.

in the 40s the brits were starving indians to death by the millions...and in the USA the black man was not allowed in school and sat at the end of the bus...and jews came knocking on doors in palestine and said "according to this holy book our ancestors lived here, move out" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And in the 90s you people were carrying out genocide. Taking up from the previous campaigns of genocide. When NATO wasn't there to bomb the country into stopping. Would they start again if they weren't too scared to?

Yes, we know what Britain and America did. Is Serbia likely to carry on?

No we still live in peace without US war mongering and support for separatists and terrorists...like we lived 50 years before US support for separatists and terrorists...and UK ass licking of US foreign policy...

The UK fucked itself over it just got a shit load of immigrants in return...enjoy the Albanians ROR!

I've got no problems with Jews.

Who do you have a problem with?