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ALL TRAFFIC, and I do mean all traffic, is about 80% bot now.

It's unregulated and one of the biggest scams online today.

Do you homework. Don't believe me, just google the facts.

You might find some real banner traffic some place, but most of them now are all sending skim traffic to your banner. Shit skim traffic to your banner. How meaningless is that?

Pop unders? LOL you are buying numbers on a screen.

10-15 years ago, you might've been able to buy real traffic, but not anymore.

Don't believe any of these fucking crooked ass reps and brokers. All lies. Don't be fooled by fancy websites or those fucking brokers from Russia. All crooks.

Just buy any service, and start checking incoming IP's. You will know EXACTLY what I'm writing about. The bots are so sophisticated now, they even can click on a link on your page, to simulate a surfer. I know, I've tested 6 major brokers. I'd place a super tiny invisible link on a TGP, where the pics had no links, and the bots would hit the super tiny link every time. I've even replaced the banner image with a total blank and would still get hits!! All bot hits.

These fucking crooked ass traffic brokers should all be indicted and tossed in prison.
I'm talking about the major brokers here.

But don't worry, when you buy and bust them, you'll get the same speech, every single time... "oh, sorry, we are working on removing bots from our system, but sometimes they get thru, thanks for bringing it to our attention."

MAY THEY ALL BURN IN FUCKING HELL. ALL THIEVES WITH MEANINGLESS INDUSTRY AWARDS TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK LEGIT.

"But how can they make money if they rip people off??"

Because Sucker, there is a new webmaster that wants to make a killing born every 60 seconds. Adult webmasters are fish in a barrel with money to spend.

But, don't believe me.... go spend your money and your time, then come back in a few days with your IP reports...so we both can have a good laugh. at your expense.

IF the traffic was real, do you think they would sell it to you for pennies a click? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Those pennies really add up fast. Pure profit.

I was going to buy pop under traffic in bulk but after this i have to think about it:thumbsup:thumbsup

This is just plain bullshit, sorry.

Are there bots? Of course there are, but the fact is already factored in the price, keep in mind it's all auction based.

Let's say I'm paying 10 cents CPM now for banner traffic, with all the bots in the mix. If all bots went away, all that would happen is that the price would rise to 20 cents CPM.

Bots are just an annoyance, because they fuck up the optimization process, but that's something any media buyer has to learn to live with.

Some sources are taking it too far obviously, when there is too many bots, there is not much you can do, but such sources are shortlived usually. I'm also not happy about the fact that traffic sources know about it and tolerate it.

But saying that all traffic that's being sold is crap and you cannot make money from it ... it's nonsense. I'm buying multiple $1000s worth of adult traffic daily, and I can assure you I'm not making it for fun.

I m seller popup ad, I selling 130k real visitors to ad company every day, ad company opening 5 redirect ad for my 1 visitor and sell to advertisers. I win $2k for 1 month - ad company win $8k - advertisers paying $10k. Life is good for ad companies :)

what do you waiting for, run to ad companies!

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Tolerate it?? The sources are the ones installing it. They stuff bots into every program and it's to the point now where even you, are "accepting it as part of the norm." They all have their loopholes, and pre written responses to anybody that catches them selling bot traffic. They've been running the game since the internet started. It's unregulated and corrupt to the core. It's the biggest con online to date.

Well, it's not part of the norm, and it's felony fraud on a grand scale. One day, somebody with balls and money will hire some lawyers and sue the shit out of these online traffic broker thieves. They have deep pockets so I'm surprised nobody has come forward to put an end to the mass corruption.

All traffic companies have bot traffic. Anyone that's says they don't is flat out lying. However, If you don't buy on RON and only build a whitelist of trusted pubs there is still good traffic out there. If a rep is decent at his or her job they will help you build a white list for you. However it's going to cost you a lot more per impression than RON obviously. In the long run it will be worth it. Anymore selling tier 1 pop traffic under $2cpm you will be getting nothing but shit traffic.

And i thought that calculus was difficult...is this another "SEO is dead" thread??? With everybody having different opinion? Very confusing...

....so how do I measure a success of any campaign.... and BTW I have not yet figured out my SEO either...:helpme

For popunder traffic you can register to AdMaven, they have like half a billion impressions from pops every day.

Think about that for a second. Half a billion eh?