"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." - Abraham Lincoln

He should have been banned months ago :2 cents:

John1975 / JohnnyClips / JohnnyNight /Joshua G

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But the stock market is Trump, right ??????

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But you CAN be a fool all of the time ( i.e. Trump )

Not necessarily, where will electric cars get their power from ?

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Yes, digging up dirt to burn for energy is evil. Meanwhile...

The UK's £1billion carbon-belcher raping US forests

Protected forests in Europe felled to meet EU renewable targets – report

You seem like a reasonable guy. If you don't see the lunacy is this then I would have to conclude that my assumption about you is wrong.




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i absolutely agree, just because I dislike one thing, it doesn't mean that I automatically approve others.

i strongly believe that our energy problem can solved - not today, not tomorrow, but in a process over the next 20-30 years - by:

- first and foremost SAVING energy. more energy efficient technology (LED lights for example are a huge improvement in that) but also better building insulation for example. You can acutally build houses that heat and cool themselves without heating or air condition. Very expensive today but this is what R&D are for - backward thinking and religion have no place here.

- also focussing on renewable energy like wind, sun, geothermal, water - there are still many uncharted possibilities here

- and because the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine and we have not developed sufficient methods of storing surplus energy YET, natural gas (no fracking!) plants to even out the energy demand - also because you can power those up and down quickly, opposed to coal for example. Problem here: those gas plants are not very profitable when you just use them when the renewables do not match demand and therefore private for profit energy suppliers don't want to build them.

And that's why - even as company owner working for profit - I do not believe that unrestrained capitalism is the answer to everything. Because in some things longterm thinking is more important.

Still pissed at this.

Go out to dinner, have some fun. The world is still spinning when you're done.

And within the next 8 years time the world will look a whole of a lot better. Guaranteed. Unless the establishment manages to assassinate Trump - then you'll have the same shitty corrupt Washington veterans Clintons, Bushes and Obama causing wars, mayhem, division and racism across the globe.

What is it with you Trump haters being so obsessed? 99% of your worries are based on empty headlines of corporate media constantly bashing him just to brainwash you.

50 less coal particulates in your lungs.

You are right about appliances, etc, being more efficient than ever before. Hell, even in my house we've been working on changing out our light bulbs with more energy efficient ones.

But I disagree with you about the electric cars... There will be an increased demand for power due to electric cars, but this will be handled at the household level and will not pull from the "power grid". Meaning, the house itself will generate enough power to power up the house and power the cars. Well, at least in sunny states.

The new light bulbs are poison.

So not Trump's fault. More like Obama's fault.