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CAHEK 03-26-2017 06:34 AM

50 Mad Russians

klinton 03-26-2017 07:18 AM

yes, the western media already covers it (and it is antirussian conspiracy of course) :winkwink:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-across-russia
so they didnt put that guy Navalny into mental hospital yet ? like they were doing in good old times of USSR ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...e_Soviet_Union
its very easy to diagnose "schizoprenia without symptoms" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
yeah...joking aside...
well, I think that I will stand for my 80 % supporting him, not like I would be proPutin or whatever...
(I am not Russian of course, I almost dont speak Russian, and I never been to Russia, so maybe I know shit :) )

who supports him IMO ? all guys that their lives depends on budget and federal spending - military, intelligence services, police, army, and ALL THEIR FAMILIES AND SOCIAL CIRCLES IMO.
That would be maybe around 20 % of his supporters.

The rest are average Russians - homo sovieticus - afraid of changes, that need stability and once again - are afraid of changes (remembering maybe 90s). Usually these guys are over 40 and 50 imo. also - avergae type of guys. less educated probably, dont know....
also, Sarn supports him so ask Sarn who he is. Here we have two Russians in this topic talking already, so it is 50 % already for Putin. and bear in mind that this is not average statistical represnatation of russia here, so it should be even worse for Vlad here:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
KremDayn is coming !:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

well, make that 70 %, not 80 % ! still majority, silent majority !
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21656158)
klinton, do you understand that your point of view is a nonce? What 80% are you talking about? Show me at least one person who supports Putin for his own will (not for money). Only cops "support" the thief here. The live feeds are still in air - just watch them. I can see only the protestors there and zero Putin's supporters... How come?

Over 130 were already arrested in Moscow today (don't even mention the arrests in about 100 Russians cities). For no reason. Federal television controlled by the thief keeps silence. Do you think the Western media will cover it?


Sarn 03-26-2017 07:35 AM

>so they didnt put that guy Navalny into mental hospital yet ? like they were doing in good old times of USSR ?

He write in twitter
https://twitter.com/navalny

>Sarn supports him
:1orglaugh

Sarn 03-26-2017 08:16 AM

First Police officer die
https://pic.twitter.com/YSZlzoLyZb

just a punk 03-26-2017 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 21656410)
first police officer die
https://pic.twitter.com/yszlzolyzb

А федеральные СМИ говорят, москвичи радостно вышли на праздник весны. Вот же как неловко получилось...

P.S. Nobody has died of course. According to the recent reports about 500 arrested in Moscow today.

Sarn 03-26-2017 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21656584)
А федеральные СМИ говорят, москвичи радостно вышли на праздник весны. Вот же как неловко получилось...

Не мент вроде живой, просто шею сломали. Ну какой праздник без этого.

http://i.imgur.com/cij6PnJ.jpg

https://wtf.jpg.wtf/700/b6/b7/149053...039ea7914.jpeg

just a punk 03-26-2017 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 21656650)
Не мент вроде живой, просто шею сломали. Ну какой праздник без этого.

Шею? Откуда инфа? Тут пишут, что шлем не помог против фофана. Может совесть ему сломали? В детстве еще...

Я помню, в 2011 у одного мента эмаль на зубе треснула и он испытал нестерпимые страдания (это дословная цитата из уголовного дела). В результате мент получил деньги на стоматолога и бесплатную(!) квартиру, а злобный студент-очкарик, что нанес ему травму, несовместимую с жизнью (вот ты бы смог жить с треснувшей эмалью?) сел на 3.5 года в тюрьму.

Sarn 03-26-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 21656662)
Шею? Откуда инфа? Тут пишут, что шлем не помог против фофана. Может совесть ему сломали? В детстве еще...

Я помню, в 2011 у одного мента эмаль на зубе треснула и он испытал нестерпимые страдания (это дословная цитата из уголовного дела). В результате мент получил деньги на стоматолога и бесплатную(!) квартиру, а злобный студент-очкарик, что нанес ему травму, несовместимую с жизнью (вот ты бы смог жить с треснувшей эмалью?) сел на 3.5 года в тюрьму.

Ну еще бы, когда идешь свергать криминального боса сросшегося с полицией - глупо рассчитывать на правосудие. Поэтому я и писал что это все саботаж(ракование) и слив протеста в свисток. Провели как бы репетицию перед выборами, думаю не последнюю.
https://pp.userapi.com/c837223/v8372...erarjWMt6o.jpg

Bladewire 03-26-2017 10:51 AM

Putin is toxic for Russian & USA relations. You need a fresh new leader for us to come together like we need to for world success.
Our whole government of Republicans & Democrats here feels betrayed by Putin's manipulation and many agencies have multiple investigations open and ordered not to work with Putin until investigations are complete.

Canadians are seeing red flags now too after Putin backed Le Pen met Putin in Russia, they see the smug look on Putin's face and alarms went off on social media. Putin is making many mistakes.



just a punk 03-26-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21656308)
who supports him IMO ?

These protest were the first ones that involved lots of students and people under 18. The arrested ones are mostly 16-25 years old. So most of protestors have grown up when Putin was a president of Russia. They can't remember 90's, because they were not even born...

klinton 03-26-2017 11:10 AM

heh I see that you got really emotional here...There was one guy with nick MrDeiz here also...He also got emotional about Maidan, and later he dissapeared...
Happy Easter :winkwink: !
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21656713)
These protest were first the first ones with lots of students and people under 18. The arrested ones are mostly 16-25 years old. Most of them don't know any other president than Putin.


just a punk 03-26-2017 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21656716)
heh I see that you got really emotional here...

Had I ever been loyal to Putin some time or other? Yesterday or maybe 10 years ago?


klinton 03-26-2017 11:41 AM

I'm just saying that sometimes being emotional means also being easy to manipulate....
look what happened to Ukraine after Maydan ;-) they elected even worse thieves than before....
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21656731)
Had I ever been loyal to Putin some time or other? Yesterday or maybe 10 years ago?



klinton 03-26-2017 12:01 PM

lol lol lol.....:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://static-ssl.businessinsider.c...bs-in-2010.jpg

just a punk 03-26-2017 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21656920)
lol lol lol.....:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://static-ssl.businessinsider.c...bs-in-2010.jpg

I have serious doubts the clown will be back after everything that has happened today...


Sarn 03-26-2017 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21656704)
Putin is toxic for Russian & USA relations. You need a fresh new leader for us to come together like we need to for world success.
Our whole government of Republicans & Democrats here feels betrayed by Putin's manipulation and many agencies have multiple investigations open and ordered not to work with Putin until investigations are complete.

Canadians are seeing red flags now too after Putin backed Le Pen met Putin in Russia, they see the smug look on Putin's face and alarms went off on social media. Putin is making many mistakes.

I will vote for Putin twice :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
All "toxic" come from media.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21656809)
I'm just saying that sometimes being emotional means also being easy to manipulate....
look what happened to Ukraine after Maydan ;-) they elected even worse thieves than before....

No one not promise will be easy(for all :1orglaugh) :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-26-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21657067)
I will vote for Putin twice :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
All "toxic" come from media.

You are brainwashed. You don't see the big picture because you'll feel more powerless fighting against a dictator who has to always have his finger on power, no matter your governments rules & the will of your people.

The two political challengers that were most viable against Putin were murdered. Facts

Stopping citizens from protesting. Facts

Muzzling non state media via threats & murder. Facts

Rigged elections. Fact

Fake public opinion polls with huge numbers favoring Putin. Facts

Sarn 03-26-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21657097)
You are brainwashed. You don't see the big picture because you'll feel more powerless fighting against a dictator who has to always have his finger on power, no matter your governments rules & the will of your people.

The two political challengers that were most viable against Putin were murdered. Facts

Stopping citizens from protesting. Facts

Muzzling non state media via threats & murder. Facts

Rigged elections. Fact

Fake public opinion polls with huge numbers favoring Putin. Facts

A i'm agree with you, Putin soft clown.

just a punk 03-26-2017 09:41 PM

According to the latest news, over 900 anti-Putin protesters were arrested yesterday in Moscow only. 80% approval, may ass :1orglaugh






Sarn 03-27-2017 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21657910)
According to the latest news, over 900 anti-Putin protesters were arrested yesterday in Moscow only. 80% approval, may ass :1orglaugh

It's important who pays)) Not who "support" :2 cents:
Putin pay only for 20% of people = his antiliberal-antidemocratic regime lives on external threats and on money from Germany=EU.
Soros sponsored protests, but majority understand that it not change his quality of life for the better.
http://americafans.com/wp-content/up...orge-soros.png

klinton 03-27-2017 09:13 AM

what does Vladimir Bukovsky think about these protests and whole situation ?:winkwink::winkwink:

just a punk 03-27-2017 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659047)
what does Vladimir Bukovsky think about these protests and whole situation ?:winkwink::winkwink:

Have no idea who is that. But I know who these homos are and they are definitely not friends of Russia:

http://s14.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/7602480/

http://via-midgard.info//uploads/pos...2810434f2.jpeg

P.S. As about Navalny. He has got his usual 15 days in prison for "resisting to police" (nobody is surprised here). As usually he will win the case in the European court and he will receive a compensation from the Russian government. So Putin has two weeks to dry up his pants and decide what he has to do this time to proof he is not an asswipe. I wish him good luck!



So your Putin is nothing but a little girl scared to shit like now. Man, the belly kisser is really fuckin' scared.

Bladewire 03-27-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21659110)
Have no idea who is that. But I know who these homos are and they are definitely not friends of Russia:

http://bestanimations.com/Flags/USA/...flag-gif-8.gif

https://m.popkey.co/8d77eb/bg1oK.gif


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

klinton 03-27-2017 10:03 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Bukovsky
quoting from wiki:
British and European psychiatrists assessing the documents on psychiatric abuse released by Bukovsky characterized him in 1971: "The information we have about [Vladimir Bukovsky] suggests that he is the sort of person who might be embarrassing to authorities in any country because he seems unwilling to compromise for convenience and personal comfort, and believes in saying what he thinks in situations which he clearly knows could endanger him. But such people often have much to contribute, and deserve considerable respect.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:

also, I just watched some 2007 Navalny clip telling/speaking about "rodents" in Russia that should be killed with pistols...and now I know where did you get your "cockroaches" word saying about Koreans, Cubans etc.
rather sad situation actually...
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21659110)
Have no idea who is that. But I know who these homos are and they are definitely not friends of Russia:

http://s14.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/7602480/

http://via-midgard.info//uploads/pos...2810434f2.jpeg

P.S. As about Navalny. He has got his usual 15 days in prison for "resisting to police" (nobody is surprised here). As usually he will win the case in the European court and he will receive a compensation from the Russian government. So Putin has two weeks to dry up his pants and decide what he has to do this time to proof he is not an asswipe. I wish him good luck!



So your Putin is nothing but a little girl scared to shit like now. Man, the belly kisser is really fuckin' scared.


just a punk 03-27-2017 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659179)
also, I just watched some 2007 Navalny clip telling/speaking about "rodents" in Russia that should be killed with pistols...

It was in 2008 when regular Georgian army has attacked Russian peacekeepers and Ossetian civilians. He was taking about the Georgian soldiers and he has apologized for this word, but not for his attitude towards the Georgian army.

klinton 03-27-2017 10:37 AM

yeah, I also red that :winkwink:
now, maybe I'm stupid or not, but but...what kind of interest would have country 100 times smaller, less powerful in attacking country like 100 times bigger and more powerful ? I guess that they had to assume/at least suspect :) that they will lose, so...what could be the reasons ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:
enlighten me, just being curious.....:winkwink:
what/where :) would be the logic here ?
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21659230)
It was in 2008 when regular Georgian army has attacked Russian peacekeepers and Ossetian civilians. He was taking about the Georgian soldiers and he has apologized for this word, but not for his attitude towards the Georgian army.


just a punk 03-27-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659257)
now, maybe I'm stupid or not, but but...what kind of interest would have country 100 times smaller, less powerful in attacking country like 100 times bigger and more powerful ?

A hint: maybe because Saakashvili thought he has the US support? His army was trained, equipped and funded by the USA. But as a result he has ate his necktie (the video below is not a fake) when he thought that Russian army goes after him, since George Bush Jr. was not ready to start WIII because of Georgia...



Or maybe you should ask this girl?



Or maybe you should read the official report of the EU commission on that?

Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili blamed for starting Russian war | World news | The Guardian

EU-sponsored report says Georgia started 2008 war

EU report states Georgia started 2008 war with Russia - World Socialist Web Site

EU blames Georgia for starting war with Russia - Telegraph

EU Report: Independent Experts Blame Georgia for South Ossetia War - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Georgia started war with Russia: EU-backed report | Reuters

etc...

The only thing Russia is blamed for there is that Russia has "invaded its neighbor in response to the attack". The Israelis would occupy their territory for that. The Americans would hung up their president. And Russians just came into the country and destroyed/captured their military arsenals, ships, tanks etc to give them a lesson. Everything (a whole war) took 5 days only and then Russian soldiers were pulled back. A big deal, right?

P.S. It was not some kind of a full-scale war. Only a part of North Caucasian military regiment was involved: 19,000 Russian troops vs 17,000 Georgian ones.

Sarn 03-27-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659179)

Russia it is not USSR! Comrade :1orglaugh
http://www.peoples.ru/state/king/pol...uzelskiy_1.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659257)
yeah, I also red that :winkwink:
now, maybe I'm stupid or not, but but...what kind of interest would have country 100 times smaller, less powerful in attacking country like 100 times bigger and more powerful ? I guess that they had to assume/at least suspect :) that they will lose, so...what could be the reasons ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:
enlighten me, just being curious.....:winkwink:
what/where :) would be the logic here ?

What logic have Bin Laden with Afghanistan when attacked USA in 9/11?

klinton 03-27-2017 11:42 AM

yeah, that could be also possible..and stupid of Georgians.
but stupidity is nothing new for humans:winkwink::winkwink:
I also have read on wiki that whole situation in 2008 before that "events" was kind of tense...like fire here, fire there...provocations, maybe not provocations...emotions...
well, those tensions were quickly "relief" after september :winkwink::winkwink:
also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic..._South_Ossetia
anyway, off with this shithole...:winkwink:
in the computer of that guy Bukovsky they found child porn in 2014...He says that its KGB specop to burn him publicly..yet, he will die anyway soon, old enough...
also, we have art like this that rather makes this situation stinking...
Russian dissident Vladimir Bukovsky 'didn't know it was forbidden' to download thousands of indecent images of children - Cambridge News
blah. I remember one thing: in 2004 or 2003 one guy from british band Massive Attack had also problems like this. The british guy. Strong opponent of Iraq invasion by US-UK, lots of concerts on that idea, lots of speeches...and yet, soon, later the British police also enters his house, as he becomes "suspect" in child porn ring. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:
guy of course denies, but who would believe child molester ? burned publicly...months pass, they did find nothing on his disks and memory sticks ;-)
Bukovsky wanted to sue british police for that claims that he is a pedophile, guy from Massive Attack was also considering that, what would the Russian in Russia do ? would he also consider suing the state if he would be falsely accused ?:winkwink::winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21659326)
A hint: maybe because Saakashvili thought he has the US support? He army was trained and funded by the USA. But as a result he has ate his necktie?



Or maybe you should ask this girl?



Or maybe you should read the official report of the EU commission on that?

Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili blamed for starting Russian war | World news | The Guardian

EU-sponsored report says Georgia started 2008 war

EU report states Georgia started 2008 war with Russia - World Socialist Web Site

EU blames Georgia for starting war with Russia - Telegraph

EU Report: Independent Experts Blame Georgia for South Ossetia War - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Georgia started war with Russia: EU-backed report | Reuters

etc...

The only thing Russia is blamed for there is that Russia has "invading its neighbor in response to the attack". The Israelis would occupy their territory for that. The Americans would hung up their president. And Russians just came into the country and destroyed/captured their ships, tanks etc to give them a lesson. Everything too 5 days only and then Russian soldiers were pulled back. A big deal, right?


klinton 03-27-2017 11:44 AM

"strong political views" or "advanced psychosis", feel free to pickup any of these two :winkwink::winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21659398)
What logic have Bin Laden with Afghanistan when attacked USA in 9/11?


Sarn 03-27-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21659326)
A hint: maybe because Saakashvili thought he has the US support? His army was trained, equipped and funded by the USA. But as a result he has ate his necktie, because Bush was not ready to start WIII because of Georgia...

Maybe Ukraine will have success with start WIII :1orglaugh
They are trying so hard :1orglaugh
http://liport.ru/uploads/posts/2014-...-soldat_1.jpeg

If this does not work, they will use the plan "B" (Poland and the Baltic countries) :1orglaugh
They brought the army from all countries to the same target))
https://pp.userapi.com/c637630/v6376...8Yg6f07liM.jpg

klinton 03-27-2017 12:18 PM

of course. thats why you have to stand united as a nation and vote for good party that will save you. Hell, there is one party like that ! They even have good name for that - United Russia !ever heard about them ?
my comrad friends tell me that they are the best !
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21659434)
Maybe Ukraine will have success with start WIII :1orglaugh
They are trying so hard :1orglaugh
http://liport.ru/uploads/posts/2014-...-soldat_1.jpeg

If this does not work, they will use the plan "B" (Poland and the Baltic countries) :1orglaugh
They brought the army from all countries to the same target))
https://pp.userapi.com/c637630/v6376...8Yg6f07liM.jpg


Sarn 03-27-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659515)
of course. thats why you have to stand united as a nation and vote for good party that will save you. Hell, there is one party like that ! They even have good name for that - United Russia !ever heard about them ?
my comrad friends tell me that they are the best !

Believe me :1orglaugh
http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/1703/2c/0fe09981c5d8t.jpg

PR_Glen 03-27-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21659434)
Maybe Ukraine will have success with start WIII :1orglaugh
They are trying so hard :1orglaugh

If this does not work, they will use the plan "B" (Poland and the Baltic countries) :1orglaugh
They brought the army from all countries to the same target))

I have to ask this again... why is any of this hilarious to you? What happens if your country goes to war? are you some how exempt from being drafted?

klinton 03-27-2017 01:38 PM

well comrade, politruks have to be really low on funds these days if they let you out to spread propaganda on english forum without knowledge of english !
unless you do it for free of course !:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21659689)


Sarn 03-27-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21659737)
I have to ask this again... why is any of this hilarious to you? What happens if your country goes to war? are you some how exempt from being drafted?

Comment from video) "do your job well and find joy doing it"

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659878)
well comrade, politruks have to be really low on funds these days if they let you out to spread propaganda on english forum without knowledge of english !
unless you do it for free of course !:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The next stage after paranoia is a persecution mania :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just a punk 03-27-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21659737)
I have to ask this again... why is any of this hilarious to you? What happens if your country goes to war? are you some how exempt from being drafted?

He said he has a weak heart, so he hopes to stay home during a war :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21659878)
well comrade, politruks have to be really low on funds these days if they let you out to spread propaganda on english forum without knowledge of english !

Don't be surprised, but internet trolls from United Russia (also known as Party of Crooks and Thieves) barely know Russian too :1orglaugh

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._poster_v2.png

Sarn 03-27-2017 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21660658)
He said he has a weak heart, so he hopes to stay home during a war :winkwink:

with heart all good) For service during the war, too.
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21660658)
Don't be surprised, but internet trolls from United Russia (also known as Party of Crooks and Thieves) barely know Russian too :1orglaugh

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._poster_v2.png

:1orglaugh
http://politkuhnya.info/uploads/imag...d36ac541ae.jpg

klinton 03-27-2017 10:42 PM

still too young for that ! i will let you know when i will obtain level of paranoia equal to your KGB chiefs:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21660187)
The next stage after paranoia is a persecution mania :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


klinton 03-27-2017 10:45 PM

I bet that you are just usual normal average crook, not a thief :)
heck, im not even sure if you are not person that is being robbed actually........ !
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21660802)
with heart all good) For service during the war, too.

:1orglaugh
http://politkuhnya.info/uploads/imag...d36ac541ae.jpg


klinton 03-27-2017 11:06 PM

Organizers? claims to activists that Sunday?s rallies in Moscow and at some other locations were sanctioned were ?false and provocative,? the Kremlin spokesman says, following a thousands-strong opposition rally in the center of the Russian capital.

He added that the Russian government was not concerned with the protests as such, but that using public anger over the perceived corruption of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to make people act in violation of the law was a serious issue.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/uploads/image/pravda.jpg

https://themoscowtimes.com/static/up...6d5ea507db.jpg

just a punk 03-27-2017 11:09 PM

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6418...f83d506_XL.jpg

Sarn 03-28-2017 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21660982)
still too young for that ! i will let you know when i will obtain level of paranoia equal to your KGB chiefs:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink:

this is good!
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21660988)
I bet that you are just usual normal average crook, not a thief :)
heck, im not even sure if you are not person that is being robbed actually........ !

I am an honest man. But west goebbels's make even for me some demonization.


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