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but deep in my heart i am german and i still worry about the country where i was born, educated and growing up. no one who is not german will ever understand how we really are. there is no "the german" we have many different minds and many different meanings but if things getting hard we are still a unit. germans can be very loud when they do not agree but they respect if someone have listened to it. so there is nothing wrong when the chancellor of the country listens and changes - this is what we expect from politicians. |
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and for funny trump played his role in that. if you have a look at the polls iīve posted a bit earlier you can read the german minds in that. after trump, germans also looked for some "outsider" to do the things different. schulz was not even a well known or even popular person in Germany because he was not involved in the countries politics in the last years. so nobody knew really who he is and for what he stands. they just wanted to have a change. but after trump appeared and everybody SAW what can happen when an amateur is trying to lead a country they changed their minds in MASSES. what have really changed in the german (and i am pretty sure in most european) mentality is, that people do not trust the older generation anymore because this generation does not understand the world anymore. too many things have changed with the internet and the world is turning faster and faster. this world need other solutions and visioneers and not old dumbs who do not even know how to switch on a computer. you can see this trend in france, in austria and even in Germany where Lindner came like phoenix from the ashes and nearly tripled up the votes for his party. you can see the same thing happening in canada with truedeau and you will see more and more that people are willing to give this world in the hands of them who will have to take care it next. our planet is sick from people who are afraid of the futire. people who want easy solutions, where is no easy solution. people who do not even know where they stand politicly. look paul is a communist - but he does not even know it. look all this other trump supporters here - they are right radicalists and do not even know it. how can you change the world with people who do not realize who they are and what kind of ideology they are part? i caould tell you a lot of things what could be changed in this world to resolve the problems we have. but first of all you need the minds for that - and we are poor in smart minds. |
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a bigger country have more consumers - more consumers= more work additionally better educations helps to resolve MANY global problems. Quote:
the OPPOSITE of what trump is doing. Quote:
these people entered in italy, greece, hungary and wherever. look at the map if germany is a country where they can enter ! she was acting HUMAN and helped the neigbours who acted human too. Quote:
if you whistle behind a women in Geramy it is a sex crime - did you know that? and this law became valid unfortunately in the same time when the refugees came. Quote:
did she send them somewhere else? where does she get the power from to give visa for foreign countries? she was dealing with even non EU-countries to spread them in fair numbers. and do not forget - these people are not immigrants at all. these are GUESTS and we have a human mandatory to help them til they can go back into their own country. Quote:
countries with a strong economy pay most and countries with a low economy get from that. so what a fuck you talking abot? Germany took the MOST refugees and paid for it ALONE and BECAUSE it still is the strongest econony it pays to the other low economies TOO - the countries what did not even take refugees. you should not blame Geramyn for that you should say "THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT LOAD FROM OUR SHOULDERS BECAUSE WE OLD FARTS ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO HANDLE IT" |
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She did encourage them. Angela Merkel's historic error on immigration She has now changed her mind, after pols told her Germans don't want migrants. Germany offers asylum seekers up to ?1,200 each to voluntarily return to their home countries Quote:
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http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2_EUDEBT_0.jpg It's Not Just Greece: Total European Debt Hits New All Time High | Zero Hedge How do you propose the EU gets out of that mess? |
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jesus fucking christ... |
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how can you expect humanity from people what you don not want to treat human? Quote:
if you doubt that you are simply not human. [QUOTE] She has now changed her mind, after pols told her Germans don't want migrants. Germany offers asylum seekers up to ?1,200 each to voluntarily return to their home countries that is pretty obvious becasue SHE KNOWS that she does not own germany. and if smart or not smart she have to follow the will of the people WHAT SHE DID - what is wrong with it? Quote:
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/im...3590578492.png the light blue line shows you the number of sexual delicts from immigrants within the whole categorie. now you can see that the % of that doubled up from 2015 to 2016. but this is the brainwash rethoric for people like you or nico. because in the same time we had 3 times more immigrants comming to Germany. so in fact the TOTAL number of this crimes WENT DOWN AND NOT UP !!! a little bit maths is sometimes helpful to understand facts. Quote:
these people from africa came with the refugees and because Germany had to do the work alone it was impossible to find out who is a refugee and who is a moneygrant. Quote:
because of uncontrolled financial market we had one of the biggest financial crisises in the last 100 years. show me ONE country what could go out of that without more depts to push into the markets for making the economy moving. obama was fucking sucsessful with that - but this have to be paid back one day somehow. the only thing trump has done successfully up to now was to eliminate the laws what should protect us from another crisis. he will throw america in poorness and with it the whole world. Quote:
yes it is strong very strong and that proves the opposite of your meaning. Quote:
and i do not even complain that because chech republic grow from a piece of shit to a serous economy. but they did it because they did NOT share your thoughts or follow the rules of the brainwashed. Quote:
you would not even understand the visions i have on that because they are based on knowledge from a university and 40 years of experience and not from a beer bar discussion. |
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All for the German economy. Screw the rest of the countries and the identities they had. Cheap money cause of the Greece debts.
This says it all: "if you whistle behind a women in Geramy it is a sex crime - did you know that? and this law became valid unfortunately in the same time when the refugees came." Why did they introduce these new laws ....? But i must admit, in south america whistling works :) Luckily not everyone in Germany thinks money is most important and you have to give up your identity for that. Merkel wants a European Army. Holland doesn't (they say now, that will change soon). That will be the whole plan, a European army. Well, we saw in Srebrenica how much we can trust our 'állies'. And keep attacking Trump, why? If they don't sign a Paris Climate paper, just go on with it without the USA and wait 3 years till there is another president. Or does she think he will stay 7 more years? They use Trump to get things done that a lot of people don't want. Merkel is very happy with Trump. Without Trump an European army wouldn't have so much support. Most remarkable, people see the German Car Industry as good guys. They are worse than bankers with their emission fraud. The german car industry took billions of tax payers money from all over the world to make money and keep the cars low priced and destroy the environment. And now we must feel sorry for the bastards when they get an extra import tax in the USA? Trump must just call it an extra 'green'tax on cars, that is what other leaders would have called it. |
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i can also not answer the question why in kanton bern (switzerland) they can not use the words "vater" (father) and "mutter" (mother) anymore in their official language. Quote:
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it is a together through all - and i think this is a phantasic idea. we just have to prevent the mistakes of USA. Quote:
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but the car industry is still the biggest job industry germany have. but to be honest - as good as german cars are when we talk about combustion engines as far behind are this guys when it comes to the farthinking perpesctive. i have a mercedes and i have a tesla and soon i will have 2 teslas because i am not willing to support stupidness. i really think you guys just have to open your mind for really big visions. maybe i will not be here anymore but i promise you already that this war-game will go on not much more than 20 years. up to then everybody should have learned how a economy works and there will be no gear from globalizm anymore. if THAT is the case you will see how many genius ideas will come up and make the world a better place. |
or rather - how BRAVE dutch soldiers are and how strong is their manhood :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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We all know why the 'whistling" laws are introduced. To keep the German tradition that you don't whistle when you see a woman. And about a European army, again something most people don't want. But will be forced upon. Cause most countries have nothing to say. That is the 'democracy' of the EU. And everybody knows this, but a referendum or other democratic move will be sabotaged so in the end there will be a EU army. So the whole Paris thing is just complaining about Trump to look good themselves. The USA don't need to sign it. So what is the problem. The EU knew already for years something was wrong with the emission of german cars. They looked away for years to protect their industry and tax income. But they want to look good know, signing a piece of paper. Un the end every governement will fuck you. And than i rather be fucked by politicians you can sent away than EU politicians you don't even know. I don't know if Globalisation will be the best way. I doubt it. I used to think that is good, but on many things about globalization i changed my mind. What i am sure of is that the globalisation isn't the best for the environment in many cases. And i don't want to be ruled from Brussels with heir ideas. Take the new plans that you have to pay by kilometer you are on the road. Every car will be checked 24/7. In Holland they tried it for many years but it could be stopped. Now the EU will try it again. For me that is already enough reason to stop the influence of the EU. |
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Everyone knew it couldn't be protected, but they went anyway. And both sides did their crimes. And the Dutch are blamed. |
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but it's fun to watch right wing brainwashed peeps going apeshit everytime her name is dropped (and I never voted for her) |
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but even if we take it the way you say it, it is the perfect reason why Germans don't want to be involved by any wars today - especially when they are started for the wrong reasons. Because you want to learn from history - something lots of people out there and on this board are not very good at, |
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This is why we need them as an ally - to ensure we do not have WWIII. But whatever. |
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Is he responsible for the bombing in Afghanistan today Boko Harem and all the other Muslim terrorists? |
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As more companies automate or/and send jobs to the Third World, replacing someone on a Western Wage by someone on a Third World wage. There is no gain in buying power for the West as the West loses jobs and buying power. This has been EU policy from the beginning and it continues to be their policy. Except for the UK. Who it will punish and make the EU poorer to make sure no other country dares to think about breaking away from its grip. The UK is the EUs biggest single export market. But they have people like Thommy fooled who thinks a Thai factory worker is going to be buying as many German goods as a German factory worker and the more people spending money in the system. That only applies if the extra people put in their own money. Which they clearly do not. The only thing keeping the EU dream alive is massive borrowing. Should that end or slow down, see Greece for an example of what happens. |
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with money what is not spend will not be bought anything - if it is not bought it dontīīt have to be produced - if it is not produced nobody will be paid for the production. that is also a second reason for low interest because the money on the banks does not help to cure the economy. Quote:
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trump is working on a bigger desaster than that. Quote:
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does that mean their religion is a crime? lets take duerste - trump admits him a lot. he gave EVERY civillian the right to shot whoever just for assuming this guy have to do with drugs. in the conflict with the mustlims he declared a war to them and ADVISED to rape the women of this muslims. "to rape 3 women is ok" this is what he ORDERED. and this guy is christian and trump admits him. what do you think will be the answer from 1,3 billion of muslims? Quote:
why donīt you start your investigation at a point where one one the most modern countries of the middle east with the highest level of social structures and the highest per head income was destroyed for oil. you should really read a bit the story of gadhafi and lybia from several sources and look how the country was before and how it is now. Quote:
do not understand facts. in 2105 there have been 32.079 delicts agains the so called "sexual self-determination" (what includes trumpīs "grab her by the pussy" because that is a crime im Germany). in this 32.079 delicts have been 4,8% imigrants involved. in 2016 the number went up from 4,8 to 9,9% but in the same time we had 3 times more refugees in the country. so calculate - if they would bring more of that into the country it should be 4,8 x3 = 14,6 and not 9,9. Quote:
but your argument is the same bullshit as the argument from german youth-protectors what denied EVERY kind of age verification because they found in every system something what can be abused. they should not even let you in in chech republic - just because the law what letīs you in can be abused. Germany did NOT call illegal immigrants and I donīt know why everone is talking about that because they are a problem but not the biggest problem. look the example of spain, france, netherlands, britain - they do not have a problem with illegal immigrants they have a problem with LEGALS who have the right to be there. Germany never had big oversea territories. they also never had a time of slavery where they imported slaves from other countries and the decendants of them are still there. this is something where this countries have to blame their own history and not make Germany guilty for it. Quote:
so every country needs depts. the problem of rising depts are not made in europe - they are made in USA and if a country is using depts to heat up the own economy it forces all others to do the same. i donīt know how i can explain you that issues because you do not have knowledge of this things and thatīs why we canīt talk on the same level. Quote:
obama at least tried to prevent the next crash with kind of a minilaw (a better one was stopped by the republicans) - but even this mini-protection is gone with a trump decreet and the markets are hotter than before because every lie and speculation is allowed again. Quote:
i know why you are a trump supporter. Quote:
maybe you can try to become the next president in US and do everything better. you canīt be any worse than trump and after his era you can also not destory anything anymore because he have done this job already. |
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you are so fucking smart. Quote:
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by waiting till they are 3 billion and run us over? i donīt know if you have children but if so you do not really care them. Quote:
well i think i can find even a bigger percentage of bads in christianity. so for your understanding all of them have to go. Quote:
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the west is slavering the third world by using their cheap labour to give people in the west prosperity. you maths is not working paul - that is childish. Quote:
it is a questions of months til he is either impeached or we are in the middle of a biggly war. you replaced a sniff with cancer. |
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means again that you think that 99% of all scientiests in the world are wrong and the old idot and you are smart? did i understand that correct? |
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Good luck, I must come ad visit you in your fantasy world. Here in the real world things are a bit tougher. |
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worldwide private savings 2015: 155 TRILLION Euros what is 260 % of the world GTP (4,9% more as in the year before) worldwide depts 39 TRILLION EUROS (4,5% more as in the year before) are you still thinking that low wages are the problem and that money is spend ? if you would take that money from the banks and pay ALL EXISTING DEPTS FROM EVERBODY IN THE WORLD (including the depts of ALL COUNTRIES) ther would still be 116 TRILLION LEFT in the saving accounts. now imagin what would happen if this 115 TRILLION suddenly goes into the markets. can you imagin that or is that still too high for you? Quote:
only because of that they are able to buy 10 things instad of one and this is called PROSPERITY. Quote:
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but itīs fine - that will finish his era much earlier because 2/3 of US citizens want to stay in the paris agreement. but trump does not care that - he is controlled by bannon and his infinite self-assessment. |
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paul > angela merkel and entire german gov
trump > science |
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But his goal is to weaken Europe for Putin and weaken all American allie ties which he's trying to do. So far he's attacked Australia, Canada, Mexico, Germany, NATO, Paris Agreement, and more. He's praised Duterte, Assad, Erdogan & Putin. Not a single bad word about the dictators, only Americas allies. |
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china is now signing in and a bunch of other countries - even india. that means that 80% of the civilisation is in it. so think a bit further what they can do to get on to their targets. climate is not an issue from a country - it effects the whole planet. if 80% of the world are in this contract the next step is that they will only trade with countries what are producing clean and accept the climate contract. ok us will suffer for a few month - then they will kick him out and the next president will hopefully be smarter. climate contract is not the brexit - it is a desicion for a limited time. |
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- 80% of the money will disappear in corrupt countries that only collect the money. - Is germany prepared to risk to lose all export of cars to the USA if there is only a trade with countries that sign the Paris Paper? - In the mean time you talk about economic growth in all countries, and as we know that will damage the natural resources more than the world can handle. imagine all chines take 3 holidays by plane a year and also buy two cars... The banks in Brazil where more easy with loans and suddenly everyone got a (german) car that in the future will be made by robots. And than they have goals like only 1 degree warmer in the next 100 years. A few vulcano's and the temparture will rise. Or some other things and the tempurature will be lower. And to get all this CO2 reduction will be payed by the enduser in the western countries. The mondial crises was the best thing for the environment. I predict this Paris Paper will be like the ongoing money to africa to help them, but in the end did nothing for the people that needed it. It is the new way to keep burnng money. And a new way to gater all your privacy, like they want to do now with a box in your car that register where, when and how fast you drive. Keep dreaming. |
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there will be other partners and there HAVE TO BE other partners because what trump is doing makes the people poorer and they will not be able to buy expensive cars anyway. also the german car industry needs that kick in the ass to change their vision. the exports to USA are one reason why German car-companies are not investing in cleaner cars yet. tesla is a very good example. there is not ONE country yet (and the worst in their own country) what could give them enough sales yet to survive. they are surviving and growing in a worlwide market. Quote:
and WHY are you afraid of robots? these are the legal slaves of the future and if mankind is smart enough they can bring HUGE prosperity if you do not think in a brain prison. Quote:
we see already the consequences of this human made climate change and if the world seas are getting much warmer as they are already it is the end of the sea live and if the sealive ends we do not need to buy a new aircondition anymore. all human beeing is connected to the sea live. and it will end with the sealive. that some idiot populists throwing different paroles around does not make things better. they do not have an alternative. the 2 choices we have is to do something and try to survice or to do nothing and hope the populists are right. the chance of the last is as high as a win in the lottery. Quote:
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Trump is telling Europe it should be able to stand on its own militarily. What's wrong with that?
Merkel doesn't like this because she believes America should protect the EU, pay the lion's share of NATO budgets and make up most of NATO forces. With EU/US GDPs running at near parallel lines, why should America foot the bill? |
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but one thing is sure and there you are completely right - Europe did nothing to prevent the circumstances we have to deal with now. and the other thing what is wrong is, that he can nor order countries how much they have to spend for their own protection. if it is nessecary they will do it alone. the one and only reason why trump wants that is, that he want to sell the weapons. america is a war nation with a war economy and to keep the trades going he needs more war nations BUT Europe accepted that for centuries and have to decide now how to go on. the worst what can happen (also for trump) is that Germany goes back to use his technological and engeneering power to produce that ugly stuff again and take this market over. i really HOPE that this will never happen again. |
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