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and yes indeed the base of economy is to produce whatever on the cheapest possible price. if that would not be that case you would be never the owner of a camera - because you could nor afford it. and IF your products have to be sold that expensive that nobody can buy them. you missed even lesson one in economy - you should not try to talk about later lessons before you do not understand the basics. |
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refugee are NOT immigrants - they are a product of wars for economic interests and in the near future they will be a product of damaged environment - also for economic interests. you should not mix one with the other. the refugee crisis is made by the west - we can not turn around and close our eyes. immigrants in britain, holland and france are the late bill for imperialism - donīt have to blame refugees for that. these 3 countries where full of immigrants already 50 years ago. |
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and I really hope i can sit here with my popcorn and watch that desaster. btw. i am NOT a friend of illegal immigration - if you read that from my words you read something wrong. i only look further to the roots of the problem and i see the complete facts within the rules of world economy. and tell me - if trump really wants to get rid of them why are his golf resorts one of the biggest employers for mexicans ? are THESE mexicans not take a job from a us worker ? you guys are hypocrites - you bend the truth by day and within the scope of your imagination and no truth at all will be respected from your little brains when it is not one what goes along with right radical ideology. in the history of mankind there has never been a peaceful together without compromise. there is no america first and no eu first if we want to transfer this planet still to the next generation. |
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I use refugee and immigrant together cause it is all the same now. There are millions of people that want to go to Europe as refugee or immigrant. They try both ways. And we pay the african countries and Turkey to stop them all. Ps, when the former colonies in Indonesia felt, some came to Holland. No problems there. That the colonies got independent was cause germany started WW2. Surinams, Antilles, Indonesia, Chinese, no big problem in Holland now. And we could fase the other problems. But we keep trying to solve the problem while we don't stop the new ones first. That is why Holland has strong migration laws so current immigrants don't bring their whole family later. You realy have no clue about a lot of things. You live with a WW2 quilt complex, but has no problem with modern slavery, the race to the bottom. And than saying that Holland has to blame itself for imperialism. Tou are just plain nuts. You would become the new slave owner imperialist if you had the change. I don't know, maybe you already have some cambodian illegals working for you. |
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I am not a trump supporter, but i don't see why what he is doing is so different from what EU is doing. But it is Trump, so everybody has to attack him. About the climate agreement etcetra, while China is suddenly the hero. Dictator country China that pollutes the most and helps another dictator building h-bombs is suddenly our best friend... you must be kidding. In the meantime Brazil decided to cut down more of the amazon. But hey, at least they signed that piece of paper in Paris! That is how stupid people become when they only fixate on Trump. And let other countries point at Trump to hide their own agenda. Mexico is great in that, a big corrupt president. But when he aims at Trump, he realised he get some applause... |
Trump is the exact reason why there should be more rules for (i)llegal immigration. The race to the bottom. Trump is not crazier than other presidents. They use Trump to get applause cause he might be a little worse than the others. The people changed their minds on many things, now that they stand on the sideline. They look how to get the most applause to try to get in power in the next elections.
legal immigarants, illegal, refugees, all are causing problems at this moment. You know that because of all the immigration rules, it is for a lot of people not possible to have a wife outside Holland and get her to Holland. They didn't make that rules so strict cause of natural born dutchman that want to mary a woman in Thailand, Brazil, Mexico or other country... they made it so strict of other reason you might not talk about cause than you are suddenly racist. But for sure the Dutch government don't want more coming in, and the left and right party's agree on that. But there is a "Belgian route', first live in Belgium for one year and than move to Holland... And so many rules can be avoided by good, but also by bad, people. |
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Your point on the lowest price to protect the economy is right. So use slave labor or but in from China. But then that fucks most of the people in favor of the few. China has a great economy, but would you want to be working in a Chinese factory? The South had a great economy while it had slavery. You missed the lessons on humanity. |
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Migrants in Britain, Holland and France are from Poland, Czech, and other EU countries. The old colonies chose independence to run their own countries, not to come to the UK and permanently leave their country. You really do talk a load of bollox without checking the facts. Changes in UK population over the last 50 years - ONS http://backup.ons.gov.uk/wp-content/...ember-2015.pdf https://thesocietypages.org/socimage...012/11/117.jpg https://thesocietypages.org/socimage...012/11/117.jpg |
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They are your customers, you sell ad space. So their low wages and unemployment are affecting your income. You can't only sell to the top 20%. |
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This guy says it best https://www.facebook.com/DavidJHarri...c_location=ufi
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Every citizen has a bill to pay to pay to run the country he/she lives in. This is how it works in the US. https://www.fool.com/taxes/2017/03/1...-in-taxes.aspx So if your job doesn't make enough in wages, turnover, and profits to raise that amount of tax. You are contributing, someone else is picking up part of your bill. If you're unemployed, on minimum wage, low wage, child, housewife, you don't contribute. So just having a job doesn't make you a contributor. Should you put someone else out of work by taking a lower salary you're a double hit on the economy. Because the unemployed don't disappear, they need welfare payments to survive. Ship a job out of the US the men that worked there are now unemployed, give a to a robot the men who worked there are not unemployed. Do it slowly enough and a lot of people will think this is the norm. Which allows the bosses to make even more money. People like Bladewire, Crockett, Rochard, Thommy, etc. Are you making more this year than last and none will make more next year? Will your customer base be slowly destroyed? At the moment the missing $trillions are in the debt mountain. http://2oqz471sa19h3vbwa53m33yj.wpen...ling-chart.jpg This is out of date, it's about to top $20 trillion. Those cheap shirts, iPhones, plastics, etc, aren't so cheap anymore. http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...20to%20GDP.jpg The UK and many EU countries are in the same boat. For the same reasons. |
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In America if you buy gas, food or anything you're contributing by paying tax on all items. If you work, you're contributing to society, to your employer and to their customers. You are on the dole, so according to your logic, you don't contribute to society even though you're a father, husband, homeowner, vehicle owner, etc. Blocked hate troll Boozer will post in 3.. 2.. 1.. |
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For instance, there are schooling, healthcare, policing, etc all to be paid for. Some people take out more than they put in. This is why government debt is so high. You look at things like a 6-year-old child. |
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the low wages underpaid workers are doing more for a country as any high paid or owner of a big company. economy lives from money what is SPEND back to the circle. the lower class does not have the chance so save money what means: they put all back into the circle. with everything they buy the pay tax and founding work. products are only produced because many people can buy them. on the other hand rich people or people with very high wages will save money and make more money from interest. making money from interest is not a production and not a service - interests are only leading to more money in the circle without any value on the other side. so in fact it would help the society when this low paid workers are paying less taxes. with less taxes they could buy more and bring more work and more consumption into the circle. low taxes would not mean that a government have to have less in the cash because it is not a question of % of tax - it is just a question how fast the dollar goes from one hand into the next. no matter how high a tax is the complete dollar will end up in the governments cashbox. but if taxes are lower, more money would be spend and it would go faster from hand to hand. what again means that more people can enjoy the prosperity what is connected to the money they CAN spend. this fact alone shows you how wrong trumpīs tax policy is. because he want to decrease taxes for exactly this people who are not even able to spend the money they make and give it back to the market to create prosperity. this people will have even more money to save and lend to others for interest (what is not a product and not a production). money is the equivalent for work and services - with interest the equivalent becomes the product and that is what kills prosperity. so whenever you buy a glas of water you do it from the money the people spend and reached you on one or the other way. and when you buy this glas of water you do the same. and as more people can do that BEFORE that few cents you spend for it are in the governments cash box as more prosperity you create. |
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If everyone was employed this analogy might be less wrong. Not right just less wrong. As low paid migrants put native workers out of work and lower wages the result is the government has to subsidise or ay welfare to the unemployed or low paid. Then there are the children of the migrants, they are a drain on the economy until they reach an age they are able to earn enough to contribute. Housewives are also a drain. Then there are the costs every person in a country incurs. Housing is the biggest cost. It costs somewhere between $150,000 - $500,000 to house a family. An average US/EU family unit is 4.5. So every family costs $33,333 - $111,111 to house. Should they earn enough to buy their own home they contribute. Should they need to be housed by the Government or some organisation, they cost. Then there are the healthcare, education, policing, prisons, etc. But the biggest costs of mass migration is the people put out of work of having their wages suppressed. This cuts taxes and raises welfare. Hence the terrible debt many US/EU countries are finding themselves in. As for making money for interest. This shows how out of touch Thommy is. Interests rates today are lower than the rate of inflation, so putting money into a bank loses money. He is right about low tax rates. The US has a terrible tax rate. This shows how much Government spending is running riot. http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/up...venue-6002.jpg This shows where the money is spent. https://media.nationalpriorities.org...15_enacted.png 62% on Social Security, Medicare, and Housing. Reduce the number of people, that bill will reduce. Maybe they could cut military spending a bit, but that's not the problem. The UK is the same. https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images...ernmen-010.jpg It makes no difference about the number in work if the wages are so low they can't contribute more than they cost. Because as my charts prove, there are costs people incur, the more people the higher the costs. However, he is right about Trump's tax plans. People spending do not raise as much tax as they used to. most of the goods bought today are imported, so the tax raised is less than it was when goods were made in the country of purchase. From design to the shop there are taxes raised, today the goods arrive at a port and all the taxes raised by manufacturing are raised outside the country of purchase. . |
@ paul - i aske you again for your economic skills.
I HAVE studied this "bollox" and i have a master degree - where is your prove that qualifies you to post bullshit and deny thousands of years old rules of economies ???? no wonder that you have to live in CZ because with your knowledge of commerce and economy you would live under the bridge in britain. |
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