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Bladewire 10-12-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22034563)
[LIST=1][*]They cannot vote in Presidential contests.

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

thommy 10-12-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22034577)
That ship has left the port... Puerto Rico declared bankruptcy even before the hurricane hit...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/b...rico-debt.html

i know - already obama tried to find a way how to prevent that and the case was kind of "on hold" - now after the hurrican it is even worse because the point is the the us CAN NOT help by law because puerto rico is not an official state.

this is YOUR GREECE now !!!
letīs see if you manage it better as EU did and WHO will pay it at the end - this is a case for a REAL economist - sorry that there isnīt one in the white house.

PbG 10-12-2017 01:28 PM

Wow that's harsh! It's still someone's home and could very well be your home one day suffering from a disaster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22034357)
fuck PR

place has always been a shithole

tell em all they got 8 weeks to move to usa or wherever

then turn PR into bombing range for the us military


Steve Rupe 10-12-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034581)
Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

They are allowed to pledge at the party conventions but they are not allowed to vote come election day, so not they are not allowed to vote in Federal Elections. Period.

Rochard 10-12-2017 01:42 PM

Didn't trump have a golf course in Puerto Rico that went bankrupt, and he wrote off $30 million there?

thommy 10-12-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22034563)
[LIST=1]

Trump floated the idea to allow Puerto Rico to declare Bankruptcy and settle their debt at some discount. A *haircut* to the investors of state and municipal bonds. Should that happen: Interest rates on that class of bonds will rise dramatically and all states and cities will faced increased costs. There is no US constitutional guarantee of state, city (and territorial) bond principal.

correct and he canīt do a lot more because of the missing state status of puerto rico.

more funny is the this status does also nor allow to use the bankruptcy code and the "Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act" is under fire from trump
and can be canceled in case his morning coffee is not hot enough.

so yes what happend here was already in movement but another consequence of US foreign policy.
this country was used to produce cheap and did not have a VAT for that reason (if so if would be more expensive to produce there).
the imports from PR to USA have been cheaper for that reason and the tax on the profit
(for work done outside the USA) was paid in USA.

from WHAT should this country live if they do not have tax income ????

now the second funny part:

this "Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act" gave the PR government the ability to set up VAT and with that a tax income.
THIS tax income was used as value for bonds and those bonds where allowed to buy from hedge and pensions fonds AFTER TRUMP CANCELED THE REGULATIONS OF THE FINANCIAL MARKET.

all this fonds have been allowed again to buy that high risk papers with the money of their members.

and here the circle closes and approves that trump have NO FUCKING CLUE of international and national economy - he is a pure and very bad amateur and i think even paul markham could beat him in this position.

however that will end it will be paid by the US taxpayer - there is NO WAY OUT !

the only question is if the big society is shouldering that mess or if it will be paid by the poor assholes who wanted to safe something for the time when they are old.

Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2017 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034581)
Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

google > In US Federal elections -- primaries are for the political parties -- the vote is non binding. and get back with me

I'll make it easy
https://www.google.com/search?q=In+U...is+non+binding.

Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2017 02:10 PM

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The legal case is not technically considered a bankruptcy filing under the federal code that governs municipal cases, but it's similar. Instead, it was filed through a bankruptcy-like mechanism dubbed Title III of legislation authorized by Congress and signed into law by President Obama in 2016.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...tcy/101243686/

The Congress and Obama made a new law that will control Puerto Rico's insolvency. SO?

Bottom line -- they will be able to adjudicate the discount or the termination and release of the territory's debt. Governments just make new laws.

What matters is that the decisions made will influence the risk status and the corresponding interest rates of state and municipal debt. If your city or county wants to pay for a road -- they sell bonds in the public markets. If a state government wants to build a new university the state will sell bonds in the public markets. The taxpayers of the state or city issuing the bonds will repay these bonds. Bond rates affect tax rates. Higher interest rates on bonds require tax rate increases or government spending cuts -- states and cities cannot just print more money like the US Federal government does.

Bladewire 10-12-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22034639)
google > In US Federal elections -- primaries are for the political parties -- the vote is non binding. and get back with me

I'll make it easy
https://www.google.com/search?q=In+U...is+non+binding.

Don't deviate from what I said bro, Puerto Ricans vote in our elections. Your like the 4th person I've had to explain this to in this thread :1orglaugh

I've learned a lot about Puerto Rico today that I really don't give a shit about in my day to day life LOL

It's odd how they are citizens, but not citizen citizens you know what I mean? It'll be best off just moving to America and becoming full citizens by living in one of the 48 Mainland state or Hawaii or Alaska

Steve Rupe 10-12-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034687)
Don't deviate from what I said bro, Puerto Ricans vote in our elections. Your like the 4th person I've had to explain this to in this thread :1orglaugh

I've learned a lot about Puerto Rico today that I really don't give a shit about in my day to day life LOL

It's odd how they are citizens, but not citizen citizens you know what I mean? It'll be best off just moving to America and becoming full citizens by living in one of the 48 Mainland state or Hawaii or Alaska

No they do not, dumb ass.

TheDynasty 10-12-2017 02:18 PM

Trump acts like PR isn't even part of the US!

Bladewire 10-12-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22034691)
No they do not, dumb ass.

Yes they do vote in our presidential elections idiot

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary - Business Insider

slapass 10-12-2017 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22034387)
Puerto Rico has no value to America

period

Neither does Louisiana by your standard. Some states leach off the other states as well. federal largesse is not equally distributed.

Bladewire 10-12-2017 02:28 PM

^^^ Truth

Most Southern states leech off the federal government while states like California & New York have billions in surpluses that the Southern States leech off of while talking shit about us :1orglaugh

Rochard 10-12-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034699)
Yes they do vote in our presidential elections idiot

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary - Business Insider

You are wrong. They do not vote in the election.

You are talking about the primaries, where the parties pick their nominees to run for President. They do not take vote in electing the President itself.

kane 10-12-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034699)
Yes they do vote in our presidential elections idiot

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary - Business Insider

It's a little sad and amusing to me that the people of Puerto Rico get to vote in the presidential primary election, but as a registered independent I don't.

bronco67 10-12-2017 02:48 PM

Because as far as Trump is concerned, they're dirty Puerto Ricans.

Matt 26z 10-12-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034717)
^^^ Truth

Most Southern states leech off the federal government while states like California & New York have billions in surpluses that the Southern States leech off of while talking shit about us :1orglaugh

You can thank the high percentage of blacks and browns in those states.

Matt 26z 10-12-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22034751)
Because as far as Trump is concerned, they're dirty Puerto Ricans.

Puerto Rico contributes absolutely nothing to human society.

The whole island could sink into the ocean and the world wouldn't even notice.

Bladewire 10-12-2017 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034791)
You can thank the high percentage of blacks and browns in those states.

Have you applied for your American citizenship yet? Or did you decide to apply for Russian citizenship?

Bladewire 10-12-2017 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034797)
Puerto Rico contributes absolutely nothing to human society.

The whole island could sink into the ocean and the world wouldn't even notice.

Why Puerto Rico attracts billionaires despite economic woes

You always post about shit you have no knowledge of you parasite.

RedFred 10-12-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034797)
Puerto Rico contributes absolutely nothing to human society.

The whole island could sink into the ocean and the world wouldn't even notice.


What exactly do you contribute other than spewing racial ignorance day and night?

Funny thing about karma, it never forgets where you live.

thommy 10-12-2017 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034797)
Puerto Rico contributes absolutely nothing to human society.

The whole island could sink into the ocean and the world wouldn't even notice.

oh than it would be a very good place for you !

thommy 10-12-2017 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22034807)
What exactly do you contribute other than spewing racial ignorance day and night?

Funny thing about karma, it never forgets where you live.

donīt tell him about karma - he thinks thatīs a cacao what he would not drink because it is brown.

Smack dat 10-12-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034803)
Why Puerto Rico attracts billionaires despite economic woes

You always post about shit you have no knowledge of you parasite.

So it's basically a tax haven for the rich to avoid paying taxes. The rich get richer living on an island that gives them huge tax breaks on a personal and business level while the rest of the island continues to live in poverty.

DBS.US 10-12-2017 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034797)
Puerto Rico contributes absolutely nothing to human society.

The whole island could sink into the ocean and the world wouldn't even notice.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_Rican_rums :winkwink:

Bladewire 10-12-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22034845)
So it's basically a tax haven for the rich to avoid paying taxes. The rich get richer living on an island that gives them huge tax breaks on a personal and business level while the rest of the island continues to live in poverty.

Puerto Rico exports $66 billion worth of goods to America every year and makes $2 billion in tourism every year. That's not bad for 3.4 million people that populate Puerto Rico.

Rochard 10-12-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22034791)
You can thank the high percentage of blacks and browns in those states.

And Russia's advertising.

Matt 26z 10-12-2017 04:14 PM

Pathetic!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ican_inventors

GFED 10-12-2017 04:23 PM

I rather money go to those in need rather than starting wars. Prophecy is intriguing.

Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2017 05:30 PM

they do in bladewireland

Primaries are part of the party nominating process.

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Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2017 07:25 PM

why are Puerto Rico and Guam not on the electoral college list?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...lts_ by_state

directfiesta 10-12-2017 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22034367)
The people who live in PR look like Mexicans and Chump is unable to distinguish the difference. Hence he could care less about PR because he is an obvious racist !


dillonaire 10-12-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22034371)
Incorrect, they do vote in U.S. elections.

They also don't need a passport or VISA to leave devastated Puerto Rico and settle on the American mainland which they've been doing by the thousands the last few weeks :winkwink:

Its florida. no one will notice.

Bladewire 10-13-2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22034953)
they do in bladewireland

Primaries are part of the party nominating process.

Yes they do vote in our presidential elections

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary - Business Insider

Rochard 10-13-2017 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22035169)
Yes they do vote in our presidential elections

Puerto Rico Primary Results ? 2016 Election

They vote in the primaries, which are a part of our federal elections.

"Like other territories, Puerto Rico can participate in the presidential primary process. It holds a primary election in the spring of each presidential election year. Then the parties choose delegates to the Republican and Democratic National Convention, who are pledged to vote at that convention for the winners of Puerto Rico's primary"

Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico Democratic presidential primary - Business Insider

They vote in the primaries, not the elections. They can vote on the nominees, but cannot vote in the general election to select the President.

The Business Insider article you posted says Hillary won the nomination in Puerto Rico.

Bladewire 10-13-2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22035175)
They vote in the primaries, not the elections. They can vote on the nominees, but cannot vote in the general election to select the President.

The Business Insider article you posted says Hillary won the nomination in Puerto Rico.

Voting on the nominee is part of the election Rochard. Puerto Rico impacts our elections by voting for the nominee.

Barry-xlovecam 10-13-2017 12:33 AM

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Can they vote in national elections?

You might think so, given that they are citizens, but on the biggest stage, the answer is no. Puerto Rico has no representation in the Electoral College, so its people cannot vote in general presidential elections unless they establish residency in one of the 50 states. It does, however, have a say in presidential nominations: Last year, Marco Rubio won the Republican primary there, and Hillary Clinton won the Democratic primary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/u...-american.html

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pimpmaster9000 10-13-2017 02:18 AM

deal with the US gov and you get the shaft...


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