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I don’t think Trump has been as bad as we thought. His lack of progress is a good thing if you dislike the stuff he stands for which I do. I doubt he will do much more damage and sounds like his kids have done some crimes thst he will have to pardon them for. He was part of it so it looks ugly. Pretty innocent stuff but then Clinton went down for getting a bj in the Oval Office.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22151196)

Take a look at the numbers.

The stock market reached it's low point in 2009 and has been climbing ever since. That has nothing to do with Trump. Trump wasn't in office in 2009. The stock market has been rising for the past nine years. Trump had nothing to do with the rise in the stock market in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, or 2016. At this point Trump is just riding out the stock market that has been rising for the past nine years.

Job creation under Obama was up every month and every year. Job creation was higher in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 than it was while Trump was in office during 2017. Trump - the so called "jobs president" created less than Obama did.

Unemployment now is an issue too. Under Obama we had 72 consecutive months of unemployment dropping. Trump took office - again, the so called "jobs president" and Trump had a grand total of four months of consecutive unemployment rate dropping. That's right - in the past 12 months we have only four consecutive months of the unemployment rate dropping.

Here is the numbers for the past year:

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
4.8 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.1

This is just stunning. Under Obama the stock market rose constantly and unemployment dropped every month for 72 months, but Republicans told us things were horrible. Now we have a president that has done nothing and everything is great? Bullshit.

OK fine. Now I guess you'll have to come over and thank Trump for lowering black unemployment :pimp

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22158720)

OK fine. Now I guess you'll have to come over and thank Trump for lowering black unemployment :pimp

if you guys would even be able to read and understand economic data you would know that
the labor force participating rate is on the way down - the offered jobs on the labor market decreased

now assume the situation with LESS taxpayers, SAME unemployment rate and, LOWER taxes - are you able to assume that ?

and now let the chinese stop or even decrease their buys of american bonds you will end up with HIGHER interest because the money america need have to be be paid with higher interest.

higher interst rates in a situation with a too low inflation rate (what is caused by lower importprices and not higher ones as trump promised) are the strongest indicators of a recession. domestic consumption will also not help because the level of consumer credit is already at a point where domestic consumption can no longer be increased by further lending.

so if you would really UNDERSTAND economy you would not celebrate the situation but cry about it.

but don´t worry - my words will not come true within a few months - but they will come true in not such a long time - remember it than.