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Matt-ADX 02-23-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tfto (Post 22217307)
Bladelier's reply to every post that he can't defend. Blame the Russiana...

Honest question for 2MuchMark and the rest of the gang.

I am not taking anything away from the kids and I hope they keep going. But watching the town hall, how can you really not think some of those questions were not scripted. Frankly the language used in some of them was disgusting. Telling Marco Rubio looking at him can't stop you from seeing an AR 15 and Nikolas Cruz. Those were loaded up questions.

Robbie 02-23-2018 10:27 AM

I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.

Matt-ADX 02-23-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217377)
I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.

The way they used the kids to say some pretty disgusting things to everyone is so unethical and vile. Having Emma Gonzales say to Dana that she will take care of Dana's kids because Dana can't. Calling her unfit to be a parent because she is pro gun. I mean that is vile

thommy 02-23-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22215923)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._guard s.html

In other news :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

High School Students Came Prepared to CNN's Gun Debate. Marco Rubio and the NRA Did Not.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...l-marco-rubio/

what is wrong with that? are journalists here to ask the question the one they ask want to be asked (like trump) ?

it is even a good journalistic propriety in interviews to script the questions that are asked beforehand and give it to the interviewed person.

read that again so you understand it too! they gave him the script with the QUESTIONS not a script with ANSWERS, you troll !!!

is THIS the journalism you want ?

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"I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinion on my questions," Haab said.
loooooooooool - with other words - he can do an interview with himself

Acepimp 02-23-2018 10:52 AM

^^^ It's official. Thommy had an IQ of less than 40.

:1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 02-23-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22217413)
what is wrong with that? are journalists here to ask the question the one they ask want to be asked (like trump) ?

it is even a good journalistic propriety in interviews to script the questions that are asked beforehand and give it to the interviewed person.

read that again so you understand it too! they gave him the script with the QUESTIONS not a script with ANSWERS, you troll !!!

is THIS the journalism you want ?



loooooooooool - with other words - he can do an interview with himself

Think about it for a second there.. When an interviewer scripts his questions we all know their agenda or at least an idea of where they lean. When CNN sells you a ''Town Hall'' but then everything was written and scripted (some of them in very unethical ways) Then it's not at all the same thing

Robbie 02-23-2018 01:31 PM

I'm not sure that thommy understands the context.

This was presented to the public as a "town hall meeting" with questions from the KIDS.
It wasn't supposed to be scripted. It was supposed to be a chance for the public, and the kids specifically to voice their concerns.

Instead...CNN stepped in and scripted the entire thing to push the Democrat party's political narrative.

Just disgusting to use those emotionally distraught young people as pawns in their game.
CNN has become a cancer on society in my opinion.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 02:25 PM

CNN is part of the school shooting conspiracy. Of course they are going to try and control the narrative after. Because people are starting to get fingered they tossed the lone Deputy under the bus to redirect attention. It is NOT a coincidence all of these people are linked together. There's a war going on but the general public has yet to be informed. They attempted to kill the fucking President for Christ sakes. The driver that had the gun was driving a media van. He wasn't Secret Service.

I suggest every one get your ducks in order as I just did today. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

thommy 02-23-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217548)
I'm not sure that thommy understands the context.

This was presented to the public as a "town hall meeting" with questions from the KIDS.
It wasn't supposed to be scripted. It was supposed to be a chance for the public, and the kids specifically to voice their concerns.

Instead...CNN stepped in and scripted the entire thing to push the Democrat party's political narrative.

Just disgusting to use those emotionally distraught young people as pawns in their game.
CNN has become a cancer on society in my opinion.

i think i did understand it and even watched the video.

even when CNN stated:

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According to a CNN insider Haab wanted to give an extensive speech and not just ask a question, something the network said the forum was not designed for. When the family was told this they decided to pull out of the event. The CNNer also noted the subject Haab wanted to address, arming teachers, was discussed at length in the 2-hour long town hall.
i still donīt believe that such a liveevent can be done without scripting.

just imagine if there are 10 kids allowed to speak and asking questions and EVERYONE OF THEM ask the same - how boring would that be ?

sure there is a lot of show in such things espacially in the states.
they could also let reporters ask this questions but that would be against the
american show bit rules. and this is in fact the way all issues including politics
are handled in your country.

itīs show time - so what ?

and i doubt it also for another reason that there was no script - because politicians there are so fucking good trained in rhetoric that those kids would stand in the rain - and this would be unfair.

my 2 cents on that

Rochard 02-23-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22217323)
Honest question for 2MuchMark and the rest of the gang.

I am not taking anything away from the kids and I hope they keep going. But watching the town hall, how can you really not think some of those questions were not scripted. Frankly the language used in some of them was disgusting. Telling Marco Rubio looking at him can't stop you from seeing an AR 15 and Nikolas Cruz. Those were loaded up questions.

Was it scripted? I have no idea. I didn't see it. I am sure the parents, the teachers, and CNN gave them assistance with questions. This kid is saying he wrote his own speech but yet the questions were scripted?

I'm more interested in if the "listening session" at the White House was scripted. Again, I didn't watch much of that, but the section I did watch was a man who seems to have lost his daughter. He was pissed. It was stunning to me that he said "gun control is not the answer". If this nineteen year old kid did not have a AR-15 his daughter would still be alive.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 03:57 PM

Apparently 3 additional officers were outside the school during the shooting..

tony286 02-23-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22217628)
Was it scripted? I have no idea. I didn't see it. I am sure the parents, the teachers, and CNN gave them assistance with questions. This kid is saying he wrote his own speech but yet the questions were scripted?

I'm more interested in if the "listening session" at the White House was scripted. Again, I didn't watch much of that, but the section I did watch was a man who seems to have lost his daughter. He was pissed. It was stunning to me that he said "gun control is not the answer". If this nineteen year old kid did not have a AR-15 his daughter would still be alive.

Yep and it also showed having a good guy with gun there doesnt work like in the movies.

tony286 02-23-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217377)
I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.

No way the father and kid were lying that's impossible. Guns are the answer because if he had a fucking hammer alot less people would be dead.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 04:35 PM

Additional call to FBI apparently "discovered" specifically saying he planned to shoot up a school..... "He could snap at any time"

Robbie 02-23-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22217692)
No way the father and kid were lying that's impossible. Guns are the answer because if he had a fucking hammer alot less people would be dead.

Not really sure what you are saying...I was saying that the kid and his father flat out said that they were told to submit their questions. His question was completely changed to a scripted one.

So you're saying that traumatized teen is a liar? BUT...do not even think about calling any of the others "liars"?

Tony, you really should take a deep breath.

You're correct of course about a "hammer" as opposed to a gun.
Not sure what your point is there either. The guy wanted to kill as many people as he could. So he used a gun. Duh.

So your point is you want the govt. to disarm YOU and other law-abiding citizens in order to stop crazy people from having this much easy access to a gun.

To that I would say: You have a RIGHT to own a gun. If you don't want that RIGHT anymore...then vote for politicians who will repeal the 2nd amendment.

That's the proper and legal way to disarm yourself.

But to get back to my point....CNN is fake news. And they scripted that entire event to push the narrative of Jeff Zucker.

It's disgusting and is truly a danger to our democracy to have a corporation pretend to be part of the free press while actually pushing the agenda of one political party.

Robbie 02-23-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217714)
Additional call to FBI apparently "discovered" specifically saying he planned to shoot up a school..... "He could snap at any time"

Watched a recently retired FBI agent explain all of this.

Up until 2012 when you called the FBI tip line...you were talking to an FBI agent at the closest field office to you.
In other words...that tip on this guy in Broward would have went to the closest FBI AGENT...which would have been the Miami field office.

And the call would be answered by a trained FBI field agent.

BUT...in 2012...the DOJ and FBI decided to consolidate all those calls to one central office in Clarksville West Virginia.
And the calls are answered by a staff of around 150 call center employees.

NOT FBI agents at all. Just people answering a phone.

And the people answering that phone and deciding that the tip on this guy wasn't valid are the same people who decided the tip on the brothers who ended up bombing the Boston marathon wasn't viable either.

In other words, a layer of govt. bureaucracy was put in between the public and the actual FBI field agents.

And this was the result.
And it's why the FBI missed this one, and the Boston marathon bombers, and who knows how many more. The clown answering the phone didn't feel it was "valid" so he never passed the info to the field office in Miami.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217688)
Apparently 3 additional officers were outside the school during the shooting..

https://rare.us/rare-news/school-res...hool-shooting/

Rochard 02-23-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217736)
Not really sure what you are saying...I was saying that the kid and his father flat out said that they were told to submit their questions. His question was completely changed to a scripted one.

Of course they had to submit their questions in advance. You don't get to sit on forum with a Congressman and say what ever you want. You are talking about live television.

Until we know both what his question was and what the revised question was, this is a pointless conversation. Maybe the kid wanted to ask how many pairs of pink panties does he own, and CNN gave him a better question.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217736)

So your point is you want the govt. to disarm YOU and other law-abiding citizens in order to stop crazy people from having this much easy access to a gun.
.

Not at all. You can have firearms. Just not assault rifles. Oh, sorry, they aren't "assault rifles". They are "assault weapons" used for "sport" and "target practice" and "home security".

tony286 02-28-2018 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217377)
I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.

Actually it was the father and son.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b09c872baee76d

The father of a Florida shooting survivor who accused CNN of wanting him to ask a “scripted” question during a town hall on gun rights last week admitted to altering the contents of an email he received from a producer working on the show.

Glenn Haab, the father of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student Colton Haab, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he left out some words when forwarding an email that he and his son received from CNN producer Carrie Stevenson. Haab sent an altered version of the email to HuffPost and Fox News last week in an attempt to corroborate his son’s claim.


He told AP that there was “nothing malicious behind” his decision to leave out certain words. But the omitted words show that CNN was clearly asking his son to stick to asking the question he had already submitted.

CNN hit back against the claims on Friday, releasing a copy of the email exchange that shows Stevenson was informing Haab that his son had to ask a question “that he submitted” instead of a 700-word opening statement plus three questions and a closing statement that was sent over to the network after one question had already been agreed upon. Stevenson said in the email that they wanted to allow as many students as possible to ask questions, and the version Colton’s father submitted was way too long.

Rochard 02-28-2018 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217736)
Not really sure what you are saying...I was saying that the kid and his father flat out said that they were told to submit their questions. His question was completely changed to a scripted one.

Yes Robbie, the kid was told to submit his question. This would standard in any live TV show with this kind of a format. Even more so when there are kids involved in asking politicians questions.

The kid submitted a question and was approved. However, then the kid submitted a seven hundred word opening statement, three questions, and a closing statement. The kid, most likely through this parents, was trying to hijack the entire show for whatever reason. After this the father pulled the kid from the show, and then the father doctored the emails and shopped them around to news outlets trying to make a story that wasn't a story at all.

MaDalton 02-28-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217377)
I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.

Here is Fox News setting the record straight that CNN did not do what was claimed and the father of the kid admitting that he "accidentally" (haha) changed the email

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-c...ampaign=buffer

Directly from the mouth of Fox News - directly from Tucker Carlson.

Now what?

Matt-ADX 02-28-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217736)
So your point is you want the govt. to disarm YOU and other law-abiding citizens in order to stop crazy people from having this much easy access to a gun.

To that I would say: You have a RIGHT to own a gun. If you don't want that RIGHT anymore...then vote for politicians who will repeal the 2nd amendment.

The same Government that missed 40 calls to the shooters house, 2 credible FBI warnings. Possibly 4 deputies who did not run into the school (1 for sure) Sheriffs office that may have told them to stand down (still to be determined)

So you want the Government to take your guns away and they WILL protect you? LOL

tony286 02-28-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22223545)
The same Government that missed 40 calls to the shooters house, 2 credible FBI warnings. Possibly 4 deputies who did not run into the school (1 for sure) Sheriffs office that may have told them to stand down (still to be determined)

So you want the Government to take your guns away and they WILL protect you? LOL

I never said take guns away. The problem with the right is its all black and white. Ive said how it should be handled but its not good if someone is looking for a debate. 12 saturday training and you have to pass the class. Then you can get any gun you want. That weeds out the crazies, the im so pissed Im getting a gun and Im to kill them now and it protects kids with stupid parents who leave fully loaded guns out for kids to shoot each other with. Now it wont end it all but it will drop the number dramatically. Also it has to happen any where you buy a gun,from the gun store to craigslist.

tony286 02-28-2018 08:24 AM

Also this fantasy we will rise up against the government, when the constitution was written it was muskets against muskets, you had a chance. Today they will just send out a bunch of armed drones and its over.

MaDalton 02-28-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22223507)
Here is Fox News setting the record straight that CNN did not do what was claimed and the father of the kid admitting that he "accidentally" (haha) changed the email

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-c...ampaign=buffer

Directly from the mouth of Fox News - directly from Tucker Carlson.

Now what?

it became so quiet in here...

directfiesta 02-28-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22223715)
it became so quiet in here...

AssChimp is no where .... waiting for instructions .... All his good websites spreaded FAKE NEWS !!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Glenn Haab told The Associated Press he omitted some words from the email but said he didn't do it on purpose.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shooting-...213024427.html
How can you remove words in a email that you are forwarding , and that not being on purpose .... :warning

2MuchMark 02-28-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22217323)
Honest question for 2MuchMark and the rest of the gang.

I am not taking anything away from the kids and I hope they keep going. But watching the town hall, how can you really not think some of those questions were not scripted.

That's a good question.

Personally, and not taking anything away from the kids either, I would think that MAYBE, some of the questions might be re-written from CNN, but only for timing and pacing purposes.

It's an expensive show, they have ads to sell, they slotted 60 or 90 minutes, etc. Timing to me could mean extra costs in the tens of thousands of dollars, maybe more.

I do not think anyone would try to change the intent of the questions though, as this matter is just too explosive. If CNN tried to change the kids intent, it would be shown all over social media in no time.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22217323)
Frankly the language used in some of them was disgusting. Telling Marco Rubio looking at him can't stop you from seeing an AR 15 and Nikolas Cruz. Those were loaded up questions.


Maybe, but then again, think about the horror these people just went through. I know that if I had been one of the kids or parents asking the questions, that I would not have been able to keep my composure as well as these people did. I would have lost it and tore into Rubio. Amazing composure on both sides. And I'll even give Rubio a little credit for attending the meeting.

Anyway, it's been proven that the questions weren't altered. See below.

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22223715)
it became so quiet in here...

I think Tucker is a twit, but he did a good job here coming forward and saying the truth. Good.

RedFred 02-28-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22217377)
I watched this kid and his father last night on Tucker Carlsons show.
They both said very clearly that CNN made everyone submit their questions ahead of time (so much for a spontaneous "town meeting"), and then changed anything that wasn't anti-gun.
The kid and his father said they sent him back a rewritten "question" to ask that was designed to attack Rubio and told them quote: "Stick to the SCRIPT".

CNN is fucking disgusting in what they are doing.


Stop believing fake news.

crockett 02-28-2018 11:16 AM

Once again.. you right wing nuts were played as the fools you are.. The father now admits he changed the email..

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...s-in-cnn-spat/

Dont you righties ever get tired of getting used?

Can you imagine how fucked in the head a father would have to be to use his own son as cannon fodder to push right wing fake news narrative... what a piece of shit..

Acepimp 02-28-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22223747)
AssChimp is no where .... waiting for instructions .... All his good websites spreaded FAKE NEWS !!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm too busy building sites for this dumbassery. CNN is entirely trustworthy. They would never lie, deceive, misrepresent facts, or USE SCRIPTED QUESTIONS.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXJMgzXV4AAM1Vh.jpg

I'm amazed that you clowns are even willing to mention me at all, since I destroy your bullshit with the TRUTH every single time.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ima get back to work now. Thanks for the laugh.

:rasta

Bladewire 02-28-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22223853)
Once again.. you right wing nuts were played as the fools you are..

The right-wingers who post here (from Russia) are the ones that are playing the American right-wing fools for the idiots they are. They're the ones who create and propagate the lies to pacify the ignorant right wing Southern base while the GOP robs our treasury again.

Acepimp 02-28-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22223927)
The right-wingers who posed here (from Russia) are the ones that are playing the American right-wing fooks for the idiots they are. They're the ones who create and propagate the lies to pacify the ignorant right wing Southern base while the GOP robs our treasury again.

There are no Russian agents here, you delusional clown. Obama doubled that national debt from 10 trillion to 20 trillion, spending more than ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED.

But keep ignoring facts & calling everyone Russians, it's quite amusing to watch.

:rasta


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