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dyna mo 05-18-2018 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272399)
ok...

Here is a prime example know it all

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...89de452d2b9f03

that doesn't at all prove your claims. 1 package? :1orglaugh

Boozer 05-18-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272401)
that doesn't at all prove your claims. 1 package? :1orglaugh

look till your heart is content Alice

https://www.google.com/search?q=sure...w=1280&bih=634

Boozer 05-18-2018 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272396)
my business ships a very large number of packages on a daily basis. I've got reps with every carrier and they all compete for my business. I buy business supplies routinely from amazon and well as being an amazon seller. I'm very familiar with labels and NONE of the labels on packages I receive or ship have multi carrier tracking SKUs on them.

You sound like Trump.

You claim you have never seen one and when I show you one you cry, just one?

dyna mo 05-18-2018 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272400)
BTW.. What do you consider "a very large number" big shot?

Also.. If you were such a large shipper, the supplies would be sent to you free of charge. There would not be any need to buy your supplies through Amazon.

i didn't challenge you on your "I'm a UPS manager" big shot comment.

I simply disagreed with you on your comment that UPS does 90% of USPSs shipping.

you seem to not realize a business needs supplies to make products.

dyna mo 05-18-2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272404)
You sound like Trump.

You claim you have never seen one and when I show you one you cry, just one?

OK UPS manager.

Boozer 05-18-2018 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272405)
i didn't challenge you on your "I'm a UPS manager" big shot comment.

I simply disagreed with you on your comment that UPS does 90% of USPSs shipping.

you seem to not realize a business needs supplies to make products.

I did not say that they did the shipping. I said that the transport, sorting, and delivery to the post office (okay I didnt really say that) is done by UPS and Fedex. The USPS is paid to deliver the "last mile"

dyna mo 05-18-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272407)
I did not say that they did the shipping. I said that the transport, sorting, and delivery to the post office (okay I didnt really say that) is done by UPS and Fedex. The USPS is paid to deliver the "last mile"



Yes, I am very familiar with "last mile" delivery. and UPS has nothing to do with it. Surepost is rarely used mostly because it's so unreliable.

Quote:

Amazon primarily uses the Postal Service for the “last mile” of its deliveries. It brings the packages to the post office closest to the final destination, and then the Postal Service takes it from there.

Amazon ships the packages to USPS themselves, who delivers last mile, UPS it not involved.

dyna mo 05-18-2018 10:34 PM

checkers boozer:

"The current split of AMZN package shipments (estimated at ~1.3B in 2017) is ~62% USPS / 21% UPS / 8% FedEx / 9% regional carriers. We note it is also estimated ~850M of these packages pass through AMZN's sortation network on their way to shoppers."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/62-per...-through-usps/

goodbye.

Boozer 05-18-2018 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272411)
checkers boozer:

"The current split of AMZN package shipments (estimated at ~1.3B in 2017) is ~62% USPS / 21% UPS / 8% FedEx / 9% regional carriers. We note it is also estimated ~850M of these packages pass through AMZN's sortation network on their way to shoppers."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/62-per...-through-usps/

goodbye.

It GOES through them. I never said it didnt. I am saying that the logistics of getting it to the post office is not done by them.

pimpmaster9000 05-19-2018 01:57 AM

it does not really matter...all the carrier services will lose amazon as a customer soon...amazon is all about cutting out everybody else...most amazon top sellers get shafted by amazon because amazon goes directly to the supplier for the goods and sells them themselves...they basically made an "uber" for goods deliver and are planning automated delivery vehicles...

Busty2 05-19-2018 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272409)
Yes, I am very familiar with "last mile" delivery. and UPS has nothing to do with it. Surepost is rarely used mostly because it's so unreliable.




Amazon ships the packages to USPS themselves, who delivers last mile, UPS it not involved.

I agree that the SUREPOST system is very unreliable but in this state ( Maine ) you are incorrect about Amazon delivering Surepost directly to USPS. Here UPS deliver to the local USPS offices and they (USPS) then do the local deliverys, which will add a day or more to the so called guaranteed Prime two day deliverys

Busty2 05-19-2018 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22272151)
I just read this. Postmaster General should do it - instantly. Watch how quickly Amazon will use FedEx or UPS, and then watch how much money the post office will lose.

#maga

Chump has already fucked the USPS just by opening his ill informed uneducated trap.

You will have seen that Amazon recently raised its Prime subscription to $119 annually from $99. Bezos is no fool and light years ahead of that moron Chump. I'm certain Bezos has plans to fuck Chump in the ass for trying to hurt his business. The president of the USA acts like some kind of childish bully and it's going to backfire on him ?

dyna mo 05-19-2018 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22272505)
I agree that the SUREPOST system is very unreliable but in this state ( Maine ) you are incorrect about Amazon delivering Surepost directly to USPS. Here UPS deliver to the local USPS offices and they (USPS) then do the local deliverys, which will add a day or more to the so called guaranteed Prime two day deliverys

I didn't state that. I stated that's it's not accurate to claim ups does 99% of the work for USPs.
I go with the reported research which shows sure post accounts for less than 9% of Amazon shipping. You can't really think that 99% of the work is done by carriers who charge 2x as much, when USPS has package logistics, it's otr amazon trucks to USPs, sure post adds days to shipping times, and there is rarely usually never packages with multi carrier shipping labels.

thommy 05-19-2018 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272414)
It GOES through them. I never said it didnt. I am saying that the logistics of getting it to the post office is not done by them.

you are right.
and it is still around 40% what is delivered at the last mile from USPS.
but i am sure it will decrease after this trump action.

the 40% saves costs for USPS.
if there are 6 packages to deliver to one street it costs nearly the same time and gasoline as when they deliver 10 packages.

after bezos have fulfilled trump´s "wish" and does not "rob" the USPS system anymore every american will pay more or wait longer for deliveries.

good buy USPS jobs.

here is an interesting article to read.

Acepimp 05-19-2018 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22272150)
Its time this guy is removed from office..



https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...?noredirect=on


Trump is literally bat shit crazy.. He is attacking Amazon, because Bezos owns the Washington Post. Trump is fucking unhinged and a threat to to this country and our consitutional freedoms.

My GOD you're clueless. Crockette- we taxpayers are giving Bezos $1.48 for every package Amazon ships.

Why are you in favor of billions in corporate welfare to a fucking billionaire?

You leftists live in some upside down crazy world. Trump is dropping the hammer, and you can't stand it!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22272379)
Raising rates on Amazon solves ZERO. 99% of the leg work involved in shipping is already handled by UPS and Fedex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272528)
you are right.
and it is still around 40% what is delivered at the last mile from USPS.
but i am sure it will decrease after this trump action.

the 40% saves costs for USPS.
if there are 6 packages to deliver to one street it costs nearly the same time and gasoline as when they deliver 10 packages.

after bezos have fulfilled trump´s "wish" and does not "rob" the USPS system anymore every american will pay more or wait longer for deliveries.

good buy USPS jobs.

here is an interesting article to read.


from your article:

Quote:

The USPS is efficient enough that even UPS and FedEx rely on the USPS to make a portion of their last mile deliveries, estimated to be about 30% of FedEx’s total ground packages in 2014.
Original article: Who?s knocking at your door? Analyzing the future of last mile delivery - Trade Ready
dumb nazi

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272528)
you are right.
and it is still around 40% what is delivered at the last mile from USPS.
but i am sure it will decrease after this trump action.

the 40% saves costs for USPS.


the guy who claims he knows economics just failed econ 101.


he can't figure out this cost more, adds more time, and is a logistical nightmare. and in fact, shows the exact opposite, that the USPS is handling what UPS cannot.

As well as the documented research I posted that shows USPS moves ~60+% of amazon packages. so no, 99% of USPS deliveries are not done by UPS.

2MuchMark 05-19-2018 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22272279)
Is the president allowed to do this shit? Why aren't Republicans howling mad at the president for trying to throw grenades at one of the biggest and most profitable companies in the US?

Donald Trump is the worlds biggest 6-year old.

2MuchMark 05-19-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272345)
I can dig up plenty of Crockett science gems.....

You should! You may learn a thing or 2. Crockett is a smart guy and it would do you good to learn from him.

:D

thommy 05-19-2018 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22272544)
You should! You may learn a thing or 2. Crockett is a smart guy and it would do you good to learn from him.

:D

you have to post it twice to reach both of his brain cells.

beerptrol 05-19-2018 07:32 AM

Chump has no idea how the USPS system works. He has his stuff shipped in from China

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272549)
you have to post it twice to reach both of his brain cells.

nazi thommy just got schooled by the article he posted.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22272544)
You should! You may learn a thing or 2. Crockett is a smart guy and it would do you good to learn from him.

:D

:1orglaugh yet you're the guy who thinks it takes both of you to match my intellect, thus your need to make the comment.

i'm not surprised.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22272541)
Donald Trump is the worlds biggest 6-year old.

he has competition


candyflip 05-19-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22272330)
Or imagine Obama did it, they would be defending it?

Didn’t Obama use the IRS to go after his perceived enemies?

candyflip 05-19-2018 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22272544)
You should! You may learn a thing or 2. Crockett is a smart guy and it would do you good to learn from him.

:D

He’s smart because he agrees with you and you with him. The guy is about as smart as a box of fucking rocks. Anyone can Google and post links.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22272544)
You should! You may learn a thing or 2. Crockett is a smart guy and it would do you good to learn from him.

:D

you know what's truly sad about you mark prince? it's the fact that the exchange between crockett and me initiated due to his distorting and perverting my asking bronco67 if he thought this was an ethics violation.

I was respectful in this thread and keeping to the point, sharing my view and not treading on others' views. You choose to defend him attacking me by telling me I have something to learn.

you should realize you're emotional about me. learn something yourself.

thommy 05-19-2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272555)
:1orglaugh yet you're the guy who thinks it takes both of you to match my intellect, thus your need to make the comment.

i'm not surprised.


hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

that was a good one.

keep on dreaming and write another 37.000 bullshit comments here - you don´t seem to have another one who is listening to you.

if you are really such a great amazon dealer you should print all your baseless drooling on toilette paper and sell it through amazon. there is no better use for it.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 08:00 AM

nazi thommy, it's too bad for you i thoroughly destroyed your "i'm an economie expert" ruse on gfy in 1 post in this thread.

the economie expert thinks amazon pays 2x as much to deliver packages and that makes sense.

don't worry nazi thommy, I won't have you rounded up because you're dumb. I'm not a nazi like you.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272573)
- you don´t seem to have another one who is listening to you.

i hadn't realized you are this dumb nazi thommy. YOU must be listening to me otherwise you wouldn't be quoting me

you really are one of the dumbs.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272573)
if you are really such a great amazon dealer you should print all your baseless drooling on toilette paper and sell it through amazon. there is no better use for it.

nazi thommy, you sling porn traffic. you can't even convert it, so you sell it. you're not a pillar of your community, you're a porn traffic guy who can't convert. the lowest of the low. and you're a nazi on top of it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Busty2 05-19-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272518)
I didn't state that. I stated that's it's not accurate to claim ups does 99% of the work for USPs.
I go with the reported research which shows sure post accounts for less than 9% of Amazon shipping. You can't really think that 99% of the work is done by carriers who charge 2x as much, when USPS has package logistics, it's otr amazon trucks to USPs, sure post adds days to shipping times, and there is rarely usually never packages with multi carrier shipping labels.


This is what you posted

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272409)
Amazon ships the packages to USPS themselves, who delivers last mile, UPS it not involved.

And i'm saying you are wrong for SUREPOST, in the State of Maine!

UPS collects from Amazons warehouses and they do a large % of the delivery milage then USPS gets to finish off the last few miles. Now that may be different in other states but i doubt it. To confirm this i just asked our UPS driver who said this is exactly how it works in Maine.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22272598)
This is what you posted



And i'm saying you are wrong for SUREPOST, in the State of Maine!

UPS collects from Amazons warehouses and they do a large % of the delivery milage then USPS gets to finish off the last few miles. Now that may be different in other states but i doubt it. To confirm this i just asked our UPS driver who said this is exactly how it works in Maine.

that's fine, thank you for posting, but it has nothing to do with what i posted. again, I was responding to the statement that 99% of all amazon deliveries are handled by UPS. that's simply not true and I proved that with facts from research analysts. My statement was not wrong.

I seriously doubt the local UPS driver knows full well how the entire state of Maine gets amazon deliveries though. And why would amazon pay more and have the extra delays and unreliability of surepost in Maine with shipping that doesn't meet Prime delivery standards? It's doubtful they would, that's bad business. But your UPS guy says so, let's go with that then. I don't have a reason to debate you on it.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 09:28 AM

amazon doesn't have a fulfillment center or warehouse in the entire state of maine, thus the shipping anomaly there.

Amazon Distribution Network Strategy | MWPVL International

dyna mo 05-19-2018 09:36 AM

I also just verified that our Amazon orders that ship to maine do not use surepost. we are seller fulfilled prime and generate mailing labels via amazon sellercentral.

crockett 05-19-2018 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 22272560)
Didn’t Obama use the IRS to go after his perceived enemies?

No.. right wing retards claimed Obama did it because the IRS targeted political 501 groups. Right wing media tried to claim it was Obama because the IRS was targeting clearly political groups so lots of them were obviously Republican groups but at the same time IRS was also targeting Democrat groups which of course Republicans ignored to push their conspiracy agenda.

Bladewire 05-19-2018 09:56 AM

It's important to remember that the post office general AND ALL of Trump's advisors have told Trump that he's wrong about Amazon being subsidized by the USPS.

So anyone arguing that Trump is right is essentially saying that the post office general is wrong and Trump's advisors are wrong lol

https://nypost.com/2018/05/18/trump-...es-for-amazon/

"And he has stated that he doesn’t believe the information his advisers and Brennan have shared with him about the Postal Service’s contract with Amazon."

“I am right about Amazon costing the United States Post Office massive amounts of money for being their Delivery Boy,” he tweeted on April 3.

“Amazon should pay these costs (plus) and not have them bourn [sic] by the American Taxpayer. Many billions of dollars. P.O. leaders don’t have a clue (or do they?)!”

Still, Postal Service officials insisted they make money off their arrangement with Amazon."

dyna mo 05-19-2018 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22272613)
It's important to remember that the post office general AND ALL of Trump's advisors have told Trump that he's wrong about Amazon being subsidized by the USPS.

So anyone arguing that Trump is right is essentially saying that the post office general is wrong and Trump's advisors are wrong lol

https://nypost.com/2018/05/18/trump-...es-for-amazon/

"And he has stated that he doesn’t believe the information his advisers and Brennan have shared with him about the Postal Service’s contract with Amazon."

“I am right about Amazon costing the United States Post Office massive amounts of money for being their Delivery Boy,” he tweeted on April 3.

“Amazon should pay these costs (plus) and not have them bourn [sic] by the American Taxpayer. Many billions of dollars. P.O. leaders don’t have a clue (or do they?)!”

Still, Postal Service officials insisted they make money off their arrangement with Amazon."


trump is most certainly wrong. another point to include along with your's proving just how wrong trump is - it's against the law for the USPS to charge a customer less than it costs to ship the package.

crockett 05-19-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272571)
you know what's truly sad about you mark prince? it's the fact that the exchange between crockett and me initiated due to his distorting and perverting my asking bronco67 if he thought this was an ethics violation.

I was respectful in this thread and keeping to the point, sharing my view and not treading on others' views. You choose to defend him attacking me by telling me I have something to learn.

you should realize you're emotional about me. learn something yourself.

You asked if it was a ethics violation and I said yes and it was also illegal. I didn't go out of my way to talk down at you. I was saying that yes I think it is a ethics violation.

You know damn well if Hillary or if Obama had done this Republicans would be trying to impeach them already.

Just this thing is a presidential ending abuse of power and it's just one of the laundry list of things Trump has done that the right excuses away.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22272617)
You asked if it was a ethics violation and I said yes and it was also illegal. I didn't go out of my way to talk down at you. I was saying that yes I think it is a ethics violation.

You know damn well if Hillary or if Obama had done this Republicans would be trying to impeach them already.

Just this thing is a presidential ending abuse of power and it's just one of the laundry list of things Trump has done that the right excuses awsy.

My issue is your putting words in my mouth telling me I'd have ranted if hillary did the same, that's not at all an accurate portrayal of me or my views. I defended myself against that.

anyway, I'm not here to be disagreeable with you crockett. disagree at times, yes, argue, no. joke around with you, sure. let's chalk this up to a miscommunication and move on.

nazis and anti-Americans, different story.

OneHungLo 05-19-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272586)
nazi thommy, you sling porn traffic. you can't even convert it, so you sell it. you're not a pillar of your community, you're a porn traffic guy who can't convert. the lowest of the low. and you're a nazi on top of it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Spot on assessment of Tommy :2 cents:

thommy 05-19-2018 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272586)
nazi thommy, you sling porn traffic. you can't even convert it, so you sell it. you're not a pillar of your community, you're a porn traffic guy who can't convert. the lowest of the low. and you're a nazi on top of it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it´s enough now - you are just boring and dumb.

welcome on my blocklist !

thommy 05-19-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22272638)
Spot on assessment of Tommy :2 cents:

he can call me whatever because he will never make it out of his cave to tell me the same right in my face.

because maybe i would do him the favor to be what he thinks i am for 5 minutes - just to show him what it means.

so just another dumbfuck - who cares?

dyna mo 05-19-2018 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272651)
he can call me whatever because he will never make it out of his cave to tell me the same right in my face.

because maybe i would do him the favor to be what he thinks i am for 5 minutes - just to show him what it means.

so just another dumbfuck - who cares?

exclaims the dumb nazi too dumb to realize he's on a message board talking shit to Americans and exclaiming we should be rounded up because we think differently than the dumb nazi, all from behind his keyboard.

this is why people think you are a dumb nazi.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 11:31 AM

nazi thommy, when will you be in America to talk the shit to our faces like you talk to US on GFY and round us up because we think different than you, as you've posted here?

crockett 05-19-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272622)
My issue is your putting words in my mouth telling me I'd have ranted if hillary did the same, that's not at all an accurate portrayal of me or my views. I defended myself against that.

anyway, I'm not here to be disagreeable with you crockett. disagree at times, yes, argue, no. joke around with you, sure. let's chalk this up to a miscommunication and move on.

nazis and anti-Americans, different story.

Sounds fair enough.

Busty2 05-19-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22272605)
I also just verified that our Amazon orders that ship to maine do not use surepost. we are seller fulfilled prime and generate mailing labels via amazon sellercentral.

That may be so but i have about 600- 1000 orders delivered here each year and about 10% arrive by Surepost. I also never stipulated that Amazon had a warehouse in Maine. UPS pick up from Amazon warehouses all over the country to deliver to me directly or via Surepost, so im not sure what your point is.

dyna mo 05-19-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22272665)
Sounds fair enough.

cool, no hugs needed.

:)

dyna mo 05-19-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272651)
because maybe i would do him the favor to be what he thinks i am for 5 minutes - just to show him what it means.

a dumb nazi threatening someone with violence for their words, from behind a keyboard. shocker. no wonder people think you are a dumb nazi.

Bladewire 05-19-2018 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22272651)
he can call me whatever because he will never make it out of his cave to tell me the same right in my face.

because maybe i would do him the favor to be what he thinks i am for 5 minutes - just to show him what it means.

so just another dumbfuck - who cares?

Are you cut or uncut?


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