Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299635)

if you can't disprove the math, then you need to shutup about the math. you should especially pipe down because you didn't even read the research study that fully explains how the math was applied. they didn't use data points, which you're still clinging to in a desperate attempt to declare the math is invalid while being incapable of providing any math of your own.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22299651)

But Hunny here we go again.. There is no math other than an equation, and that's been filled with speculative probabilities which is not math, it's guessing.

Like I said, the point of the equation is not to produce a useful value, the point is to show how much we don't know. It's like assigning a number value to infinity

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299657)

what's weird is how you're acting like you're involved/interested in this topic yet keep revealing you didn't even read the study paper.

the entire paper is about how the more they speculate on the numbers, using valid mathematical structures, the more the math shows we are alone.

that's actually also the funny :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh part of your posts.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299629)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

not sure who you're trying to fool but you completely left out any math.

Did you not take statistics in school? the paper reveals that there is proper math that can account for uncertainty and they apply it. It's called statistical analysis.

the scientists behind the research write about this in the paper I linked, perhaps you should try and read it prior to thinking you're capable of discounting it.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22299712)

So current models are wrong because..

"are untenable given the current state of scientific knowledge."

But their version is right because "assessments of current scientific knowledge"

See I call that baloney, obviously you've found some meaning in it so stick with it. To ME, Drake was always flawed because it presumes a planet can only have one civilization and one life form, where as the only thing factual used in calculating it is.. there's an Planet earth.. that has life. And as we know from this single planet, there can be multiple civilizations over time and even if species are wiped out.. something else pops up, and of course the hibernation thing. Here on earth a 1/4 of animals/plants hibernate in someway, until conditions are right for them.

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22299756)

Someone famous once said this
There are lies, damned lies and Statistics.

I think these are all inconclusive, the Drake equation is just an approximation to model something. It is a great idea, but should not be a measuring stick to apply to an actual proof of anything.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 22299857)

DynaTroll just posts this shit to argue with anyone who questions it, arguing the same line of bullshit over and over all to convince himself he won so he can experience his trollgasm.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299859)

you're too full of hate and too dumb to realize that they agree with me.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22299860)

it should be no surprise his other confirmed nick is Redfred:2 cents:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299862)

got it.

suckonthis still has much lingering butthurt from all the times I've rubbed his nose in his own hate fueled dumbness.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299859)

you're too full of hate and too dumb to realize that they agree with me.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 22299864)

Hilarious! I used to rile you up so bad you used to kick holes in your wall. Did you forget??

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 22299866)

If you think they're agreeing with you you're even dumber than I ever imagined.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299869)

exclaims the guy who thinks stars are born simultaneously.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 22299875)

Tell us more about your belief that stars are campfires in the sky for your Gods and how the earth is the center of the universe.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299876)

keeping showing off how lingering butthurt fuels your hate and ignorance.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299883)

wow, you're struggling to keep up with your hate and dumbness.

keep it going!

Originally Posted by MFCT (Post 22298745)

Oh, so I can promote everyone except trans, huh? What are you, some kind of transistor?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22299890)

your hate filled ignorance clouds your ability to realize you have no idea who I am or what my life is like.

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22298708)

I disagree with many of your points.

Jupiter keeps many large bodies from impacting Earth. Rare.
- Most exoplanets that have been discovered are huge gas giants just like jupiter

The sun is at an optimum distance. Rare.
- Many exoplanets have been discovered that are in the goldilocks zone

Our temperature and atmosphere have been relatively stable for over a billion years. Very rare.
- We can't say if this is rare or not, given that we haven't been able to study another planet outside our solar-system to the extent we have earth.

Multicellular creatures evolved. Very rare.
- Again, we cannot say if this is rare or not.

Earth has one large moon. Rare.
- I don't see how having only 1 moon makes or breaks life. Mars is said to once have been habitable but has several.

Our solar system is on an outer arm of the galaxy. No nearby stars affect us. No galactic phenomena threaten us. Very rare.
- Again, we cannot say how rare and we also cannot say how common "galatic phenomena is" given that there's stuff that might happen once per billion years.

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V (Post 22300718)

~exactly ;)