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dyna mo 08-31-2018 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329131)
I doubt any of them will look at those numbers. Doesn't fit into what they believe.
So I'll just post it here for them:
"Average Total Federal Employee Compensation: $123,160"
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thanks but no thanks. And you're the last guy to yap about others being blinded by belief.

tony286 08-31-2018 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22329137)
that's not at all pertinent to the issue of having a promised cost of living raise yanked out from underneath 2 million people just a couple of months prior to it happening.
and I don't know about you but I'll take the best of the best over mediocre every time. of course I want the best Air Traffic controller, doctors, lawyers, etc. that requires a benefit package that's a big enough incentive to motivate people to be their best.

I don't disagree with the fact that there is much bloat in governments, but let's not penalize those who were promised a cost of living raise because of that and let's not distort the issue either with pay. these people did not set their salaries.
Thank you well said. Yep we dont want the cheapest air traffic controllers lol.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22329141)
Thank you well said. Yep we dont want the cheapest air traffic controllers lol.
the truly comical part of those who are trying to deflect from this by exclaiming "bloated gov" and overpaid workers miss the fact that that's not why trump canceled their promised cost of living raise.

he stated he canceled it due to "serious economic conditions". if he were canceling it because of bloat or pay, he would have said so.

if he were genuinely sincere about government costs spiraling out of control he'd not have spent $77,000,000 so far on golfing at his own resorts. etc. et al on&on.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329097)
You're reading opinion pieces there Tony with cherry picked b.s. numbers.

Here's something for you to think about:
We are all SUPPOSED to be in the online Adult Industry. Most of the people in this thread are not. But just pretend that they are.

I own a paysite. I actually shoot PORN for a living.
Inflation? Cry me a river.

It's almost non-existent compared to past decades. But just pretend that it's a real issue...
Paysite owners haven't been able to raise prices since the 1990's!!!! We don't get a "raise". Matter of fact, most of them are LOWERING their prices.

I don't see any of my adult industry brethren crying tears for me.

And benefits??? Govt. employees are loaded with them.

Me? I have to pay for everything. Health insurance...I pay my own. Taxes? I have to write a check to the govt. because I don't have an employer to pull it out of my paycheck each week AND pay matching funds to my Social Security payment.
Retirement? What the fuck is that. There is no retirement fund and "pension" for people in the adult industry.

But my main point is...the founding fathers never wanted ANY of this bullshit. You want to "Serve" your country? Then do so. Being on the public teat your whole life, having all your healthcare paid for by taxpayers, and then retiring with a nice pension until you die...all at taxpayer expense...is not "serving" anyone but yourself.

I do think the Federal Govt. needs to be cut down to bare bones. We don't need 10,000 assistants to the 1000 assistants that assist the 100 staff members of every congressman. lol

Seems like we just keep adding on to the bureaucracy. Just look at the TSA. The Federal Govt. took the opportunity of 9-11 to create another giant bureaucracy and taxpayer expenditure. So now we pay for the "privilege" of being searched like criminals to get on a glorified flying bus. lol

Our country wasn't founded to have a Federal Govt. this big, or to have a Federal Govt. that ruled over us. It's supposed to be ruled by us.

These are just my opinions. Doesn't make me right or wrong. It's just the way I see it.
Were you forced into pornography? Could you have instead gotten an education or training that would provide you a public sector job with a sweet compensation package?

Did you not get to choose you life path?

Robbie 08-31-2018 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22329152)
Were you forced into pornography? Could you have instead gotten an education or training that would provide you a public sector job with a sweet compensation package?

Did you not get to choose you life path?
Again, this is supposed to be a porn forum.
Why aren't you asking that same question of these poor mistreated govt. workers making bank off the govt. teat
Maybe THEY should have considered a different line of work.

And maybe some of y'all should not be posting here but over at the govt. employee forum instead. Lol

dyna mo 08-31-2018 12:38 PM
robbie you did not have to pass a test to become a porner. you are not a unique snowflake because you are a porner. You are the one whining about how shitty your porner life is compared to a federal employee.

you can try and revoke my porn pass here at GFy because I am currently not running any porn operations, just like the vindictive mean-spirited trump did with brennan, but the fact is you are not in charge.

GFED 08-31-2018 12:52 PM
Government workers are shitbags.

cherrylula 08-31-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329214)
Again, this is supposed to be a porn forum.
Why aren't you asking that same question of these poor mistreated govt. workers making bank off the govt. teat
Maybe THEY should have considered a different line of work.

And maybe some of y'all should not be posting here but over at the govt. employee forum instead. Lol
I miss Goatse. Would it even be allowed to post such things here these days? lol those days

Robbie 08-31-2018 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22329216)
robbie you did not have to pass a test to become a porner. you are not a unique snowflake because you are a porner. You are the one whining about how shitty your porner life is compared to a federal employee.

you can try and revoke my porn pass here at GFy because I am currently not running any porn operations, just like the vindictive mean-spirited trump did with brennan, but the fact is you are not in charge.
Didn't "whine"about anything. I simply made a point. You guys are the ones whining about pampered govt. employees getting less of my money.

And you ridiculed my profession on a board designed FOR my profession.

astronaut x 08-31-2018 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22328901)
What is wrong with you guys? Those salary's don't fall from heaven. They are paid by taxes that are collected off of our backs.
The Federal Govt. should be doing everything it can to keep employee costs down.
Each golf trip costs taxpayers 3 million dollars.

The Secret Service has had to continually request for more money to protect Trump family to the tune of 27 million to 30 million dollars a time for staying in places that not the white house.

At the current rate of spending, travel and protection costs will surpass half-a-billion dollars by the end of Trump's four-year term.

Robbie, please tell us what you think about Trump's golfing expenses.

RedFred 08-31-2018 01:02 PM
50 Whining statements.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329232)
Didn't "whine"about anything. I simply made a point. You guys are the ones whining about pampered govt. employees getting less of my money.

And you ridiculed my profession on a board designed FOR my profession.
as much as you claim how fantastic trump has made things for you, you sure are much more miserable these days than I've ever seen you.

And don't be a fucking pussy, I didn't ridicule jack shit about you being a porner, grow some fucking balls. you might want to scroll up and read the post where someone did point out what you do for a living.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22328901)
What is wrong with you guys?
you ridiculed me for my view. waaaaaaaaaaaaah.

astronaut x 08-31-2018 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329214)
Again, this is supposed to be a porn forum.
Why aren't you asking that same question of these poor mistreated govt. workers making bank off the govt. teat
Maybe THEY should have considered a different line of work.

And maybe some of y'all should not be posting here but over at the govt. employee forum instead. Lol
Gov employees who have families btw.

You want to complain about workers living off the "teat" but say nothing about corporate welfare, Trumps golf expenses, the health insurance scam, drug price scam, etc etc...

Your masters, playing you like a fiddle.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 01:41 PM
Robbie, while I didn't ridicule your being a porner, I did make some ad hominem comments about you, I apologize for those.

Rochard 08-31-2018 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22329242)
as much as you claim how fantastic trump has made things for you, you sure are much more miserable these days than I've ever seen you.

And don't be a fucking pussy, I didn't ridicule jack shit about you being a porner, grow some fucking balls. you might want to scroll up and read the post where someone did point out what you do for a living.
You bring up a good point. If things are so good why is Robbie constantly complaining.

And why is he complaining about healthcare? I thought Trump fixed that.

baddog 08-31-2018 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22329261)
You bring up a good point. If things are so good why is Robbie constantly complaining.

And why is he complaining about healthcare? I thought Trump fixed that.
He DID fix it; people that don't want it are no longer forced to buy it.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?

Rochard 08-31-2018 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22329283)
He DID fix it; people that don't want it are no longer forced to buy it.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?
If Robbie doesn't have to buy healthcare any more, why is Robbie complaining about buying healthcare?

crockett 08-31-2018 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22329283)
He DID fix it; people that don't want it are no longer forced to buy it.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?
Thats not what Trump said he would do.. He said he would repeal and "replace" obamacare... Just because you will only live another 10 or 15 years at best and dont care about health insurance doesnt mean the rest of us dont want affordable healthcare...

Robbie 08-31-2018 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22329259)
Robbie, while I didn't ridicule your being a porner, I did make some ad hominem comments about you, I apologize for those.
No problem. We all get a little pissed off and passionate sometimes. Maybe I took what you said wrong.

And anyone who knows me in "real life" and not just my comments on here...knows that I am the exact opposite of miserable or whining.

I love life and do my best to drink up every drop of it. :)

I've been of the political opinion that our Federal Govt. is too big since I was old enough to vote. And that was in 1980. The govt. was tiny compared to what it is now. And doesn't seem to have any end in sight to it's growth.

I really don't think we should have a Federal Govt. that is the size it is. But it seems that we can't even slow down the growth...much less STOP the growth...and now way in hell to REVERSE the growth and shrink the thing.

That was really the only thing I was thinking in this conversation.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22329283)
He DID fix it; people that don't want it are no longer forced to buy it.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?
there's a lot more to fix about healthcare than simply allowing people to opt out of obamacare.

I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford the highest level of health insurance and I feel lucky about that after just having gone through 4 surgeries on my elbow over the last several months. the bills are outrageous but covered. most folks would be hit hard by something like that.

Robbie 08-31-2018 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22329283)
He DID fix it; people that don't want it are no longer forced to buy it.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?
I have Rochard on Ignore on here because he just annoys the hell out of me.lol

But I CAN see when people quote him.
And you can see that he claims I am "Complaining". WTF?

When he posts all over the place he is just making observations. When I make an observation I'm somehow "complaining"???

Saying that I pay my own insurance is "complaining"?
The only complaining I did about it was when my premiums went up from less than $500 a month for my family of four from 2002 to 2008..to $1,621.20 a MONTH after ObamaCare was made law of the land.

Yeah...that WAS me complaining. It's a ripoff.

And yes, Trump has gotten rid of the mandate. And now insurance companies are having to compete and the prices have stopped rising and will reflect in 2019.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...mium-increases

Of course the price is still high after years of Obama's double digit yearly increases in cost.
But at least the bleeding has stopped. And now as insurance companies are forced to compete for business again...hopefully the costs will go down in the near future.

pimpmaster9000 08-31-2018 04:01 PM
Somebody be sure to let me know when the MAGA arrives...trump promised...

dyna mo 08-31-2018 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22329303)
No problem. We all get a little pissed off and passionate sometimes. Maybe I took what you said wrong.

And anyone who knows me in "real life" and not just my comments on here...knows that I am the exact opposite of miserable or whining.

I love life and do my best to drink up every drop of it. :)

I've been of the political opinion that our Federal Govt. is too big since I was old enough to vote. And that was in 1980. The govt. was tiny compared to what it is now. And doesn't seem to have any end in sight to it's growth.

I really don't think we should have a Federal Govt. that is the size it is. But it seems that we can't even slow down the growth...much less STOP the growth...and now way in hell to REVERSE the growth and shrink the thing.

That was really the only thing I was thinking in this conversation.
I guess we all have our GFY side, especially in controversial subjects like these.

We don't disagree on the government being bloated and some amount of federal employees being over-compensated, I get that those are huge problems that need to be addressed.

I don't see that withdrawing this planned raise is fair to those who were promised it, especially when trump stated it's on account of serious economic conditions. As kane and you pointed out, trump claims the economy is doing fantastic. Makes it even worse.

dyna mo 08-31-2018 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22329310)
Somebody be sure to let me know when the MAGA arrives...trump promised...
we'll be sure and drop a bomb on ya with that written on the side.

slapass 08-31-2018 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22328901)
What is wrong with you guys? Those salary's don't fall from heaven. They are paid by taxes that are collected off of our backs.
The Federal Govt. should be doing everything it can to keep employee costs down.
Robbie, inflation is at 4% and going higher on these tariffs. So they get fucked so he can lower taxes for the rich? You don’t see where a guy who campaigned on helping the working man might come as a fucktard over this?


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